Games for terrible people.

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So I just got back from playing league of legends. I wanted to try it because I was looking for a game to play coop with the girlfriend. We'd ran through both of the tuts and felt ready to play online, so we set up a human vs ai game and ended up paired with three other players.

Not 5 minutes into the game my chat bar pops up from another player on the map calling my girlfriend's champion a noob and insisted that we need to report her so she couldn't play this game any more.

"oh, it's one of THOSE games" I said to myself, after leaving the match knowing that any more time spent with such a whoreson would be nothing but frustration. I began to wonder to myself; "this is the exact same thing that goes on the WoW pvp scene, what is it wrong with people? is it the game?"

I would like to know what the escapists think on the matter, what games have you played that expose you to assholery such as this?

 

[SammiYin]

Operation Flashpoint : Red River. I was doing a mission on hardcore yesterday [no respawns] and had left the party open, 5 minutes in somebody joins and, seeing my sniper rifle, decides to team kill me and take it. Since there's no respawn, I was left spectating while he pissed about with my gun. Fortunately it took him about a minute to realise he sucked with it and leave.

I think the moral of the story is that people are in general pretty terrible, especially when it comes to the SRS business of games

 

[Ando85]

Looking for human scum? Look no further.

Black Ops is really bad in that regard. Simply by playing and doing well without saying a word people talk trash. You can't do really good in a match without someone calling you a "******" for whatever strategy you are using. They always have to make some excuse. They can't just say "good game" when they lose. I get accused of camping or glitching all the time even when I spent the whole match basically doing laps around the map killing people.

 

[mental_looney]

LoL the communtiy of that game is the scum of the earth sometimes or wow pvp servers especially when they log over to complain you killed them with alot of swears.

 

[Cipher1]

Bah LoL and HoN are just as bad as each other which is sad because there both alright games just find a good group to PVP with and some of these problems go away.

 

[PonceyMcTosserFaic]

in addition to ando's post i would say MW2 multiplayer. single player is fun, though.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

Well Big Team Battle in Halo always has a few assholes. But those games are always about pure fun so its fun to be a dick to each other. But for me Gears 2 online. If someone takes the kill I worked so damn hard for I get pissed. I mean the guy is down, and you run for him and kill him? If its in the heat of battle I won't care its fair game I just wanna win. But when hes the last guy left don't you touch it .

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

It's just competitive nature really, when your success depends on the other team members pulling their weight and you've put your life's meaning on you succeeding in a game, you tend to be pretty particular about potential noobs messing it up.


That's why not everyone can be a professional athlete, that's why only the best of the best get to do it. It's exactly the same with games, only difference is there's no barrier for entry so the community is extra elitist to make up for the difference and ensure their success.


It's the same practice done when a basketball team won't let you join em, the only difference is that League of Legends or WoW doesn't garner the same recognition as the NBA, so when some fat coach tells you you suck at basketball your reaction is "heh, yeah, I never had a chance joining the Lakers " while when a fat nerd tells you "your WoW account needs to be deleted" you're outraged that someone is telling you you're bad at something you like doing.

Neither is "nice" but people's reactions differ TOO MUCH when comparing the NBA example to the WoW one, don't you think?

 

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It's just competitive nature really, when your success depends on the other team members pulling their weight and you've put your life's meaning on you succeeding in a game, you tend to be pretty particular about potential noobs messing it up.


That's why not everyone can be a professional athlete, that's why only the best of the best get to do it. It's exactly the same with games, only difference is there's no barrier for entry so the community is extra elitist to make up for the difference and ensure their success.


It's the same practice done when a basketball team won't let you join em, the only difference is that League of Legends or WoW doesn't garner the same recognition as the NBA, so when some fat coach tells you you suck at basketball your reaction is "heh, yeah, I never had a chance joining the Lakers " while when a fat nerd tells you "your WoW account needs to be deleted" you're outraged that someone is telling you you're bad at something you like doing.

Neither is "nice" but people's reactions differ TOO MUCH when comparing the NBA example to the WoW one, don't you think?

True, but at the same time, online play =/= competitive play. If I were to say, play a friendly game of basketball with a bunch of strangers, I wouldn't be expecting everyone to be gunning for the win, because what's at stake? I don't know these people. I would be a tad more forgiving if this match was against another human player, but it wasn't, we were up against bots. It really bugs me that people expect you to be absolutely top of your game, like every day is the bloody world championships. when I play a game, it's not to be the best, or to get the high score and if that's what you're going for, why would you sign up for a random game with a bunch of strangers? It doesn't make sense.

I actually think this is a form of digital bullying disguised as elitism, ripping on people makes you feel big, and there's no repercussions because they don't know you and thus can't punish you for your actions.

It could be either, or even sub conscious, it's the kind of thing that makes me agree with blizzard demanding passports and real names for users, the logic behind it makes sense, you can't be an asshole, because people know who you are.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

It's just competitive nature really, when your success depends on the other team members pulling their weight and you've put your life's meaning on you succeeding in a game, you tend to be pretty particular about potential noobs messing it up.


That's why not everyone can be a professional athlete, that's why only the best of the best get to do it. It's exactly the same with games, only difference is there's no barrier for entry so the community is extra elitist to make up for the difference and ensure their success.


It's the same practice done when a basketball team won't let you join em, the only difference is that League of Legends or WoW doesn't garner the same recognition as the NBA, so when some fat coach tells you you suck at basketball your reaction is "heh, yeah, I never had a chance joining the Lakers " while when a fat nerd tells you "your WoW account needs to be deleted" you're outraged that someone is telling you you're bad at something you like doing.

Neither is "nice" but people's reactions differ TOO MUCH when comparing the NBA example to the WoW one, don't you think?

True, but at the same time, online play =/= competitive play. If I were to say, play a friendly game of basketball with a bunch of strangers, I wouldn't be expecting everyone to be gunning for the win, because what's at stake? I don't know these people. I would be a tad more forgiving if this match was against another human player, but it wasn't, we were up against bots. It really bugs me that people expect you to be absolutely top of your game, like every day is the bloody world championships. when I play a game, it's not to be the best, or to get the high score and if that's what you're going for, why would you sign up for a random game with a bunch of strangers? It doesn't make sense.

I actually think this is a form of digital bullying disguised as elitism, ripping on people makes you feel big, and there's no repercussions because they don't know you and thus can't punish you for your actions.

It could be either, or even sub conscious, it's the kind of thing that makes me agree with blizzard demanding passports and real names for users, the logic behind it makes sense, you can't be an asshole, because people know who you are.

It depends on the game, if it's a fighting game where lag is an issue then yeah, you can't take it that seriously, if it's an mmo or something though, online is all that game has, so it's as serious as anything else.


As for signing up with random partners, if it's a game that is full of people who are really good, more often than not your random partners will be equal to your skill if not better, the reaction of asking the poor girl be banned is so preposterous that it supports this as well, she probably was the worst team-mate these folks ever had.


It is definitely valid to go with the mentality of a quick pickup game into online gaming, but just as you wouldn't do that in a court where every super serious dude of the neighborhood gathers and people are super serial about the game, likewise you shouldn't go in an online game whose players are equally serial about it expecting causal lighthearted fun.

What I'm basically saying is, look before your jump in the hole.


As for the bullying aspect, well, I wouldn't stretch it that far but yeah, people play games to feel good, feeling good has many layers and just as beating a set of 1s and 0s makes you feel good, so does beating a bunch of electrical impulses, flesh and bone, which can actually talk back to you and make you feel even cooler and stronger. From a strictly scientific point of view it makes a lot of sense and is what drives healthy competition.

As long as people don't take a sadistic glee out of being better than others and handle their victories with CLASS I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing but alas in this American culture of in-your-face boasting this hardly seems the case.

 

[Bloedhoest]

Lol whut?
I ye olde days, CS1.6, it was all fun. Complimenting someone on a good/nice kill and such.
reading this made me think twice about multiplayer.

 

[QuadrAlien]

Having studied the ways of the LoL forums and played the game for a short while, it does, alas, seem that such players are rather common there. My best advice if you do decide to try it again is to just stoically get stuck in and make both of yourselves even moderately useful - it's entirely possible that the other two teammates will have been born with some common sense and place the report correctly on the whining feeder (and he WILL be a feeder, from what I've seen - if my suspicions are correct, he would have typed the insult slightly after getting himself killed).

As for signing up with random partners, if it's a game that is full of people who are really good, more often than not your random partners will be equal to your skill if not better, the reaction of asking the poor girl be banned is so preposterous that it supports this as well, she probably was the worst team-mate these folks ever had.

Put it this way - if he was truly against that particular choice of champion (as might be the case), he had every right to bring this up as champion selection was in progress. Bringing it up 5 minutes or so into the game once nothing can be done about it is just being a tosser. If not, then anyway, Humans vs. AI is the sort of transitional training mode before you get to PvP, so thinking everyone else is going to be an expert on there's really not on - I was advising a beginner earlier today, come to think of it.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Having studied the ways of the LoL forums and played the game for a short while, it does, alas, seem that such players are rather common there. My best advice if you do decide to try it again is to just stoically get stuck in and make both of yourselves even moderately useful - it's entirely possible that the other two teammates will have been born with some common sense and place the report correctly on the whining feeder (and he WILL be a feeder, from what I've seen - if my suspicions are correct, he would have typed the insult slightly after getting himself killed).

As for signing up with random partners, if it's a game that is full of people who are really good, more often than not your random partners will be equal to your skill if not better, the reaction of asking the poor girl be banned is so preposterous that it supports this as well, she probably was the worst team-mate these folks ever had.

Put it this way - if he was truly against that particular choice of champion (as might be the case), he had every right to bring this up as champion selection was in progress. Bringing it up 5 minutes or so into the game once nothing can be done about it is just being a tosser. If not, then anyway, Humans vs. AI is the sort of transitional training mode before you get to PvP, so thinking everyone else is going to be an expert on there's really not on - I was advising a beginner earlier today, come to think of it.

I'm sorry but I have zero knowledge of LoL so I was just speaking generally, I have no clue as to how team matchmaking happens and about what you can tell about your teammates prior to actually starting a session. My knowledge of online multiplayer comes from playing final fantasy 11 and a variety of fighting games online, no FPSs or other stuff.


Either way, I think my comment was true on a more general basis, even though in this specific iteration there could be an exception to it.

 

[gigastar]

Expose a group of diehard Call of Duty fans to a bunch of diehard Halo fans.

If nukes and spartan lasers dont start flying within the first minuite then youve done something wrong.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Online game play is nearly synonymous with terrible people.

Expose a group of diehard Call of Duty fans to a bunch of diehard Halo fans.

If nukes and spartan lasers dont start flying within the first minuite then youve done something wrong.

This. Online game play is nearly synonymous with terrible people. I don't even play online anymore, which is sad because I really enjoy playing Halo online, but once my friends move on to other games, I'm left with the dreaded "randoms," and it always ends badly, without fail. I don't think I've ever managed to string two MP games together without some issue of blatant antisocial behavior.

 

[DanteLives]

Battlefield Heroes. Not once in my 2 years of playing it have i not come across some kid/hacker/moron that refrains from flaming me for doing better than them.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Looking for human scum? Look no further.

Black Ops is really bad in that regard. Simply by playing and doing well without saying a word people talk trash. You can't do really good in a match without someone calling you a "******" for whatever strategy you are using. They always have to make some excuse. They can't just say "good game" when they lose. I get accused of camping or glitching all the time even when I spent the whole match basically doing laps around the map killing people.

Yeah, I know what you mean, they will find ANY excuse to complain. Hell, one game a guy on the other team was complaining about me using "cheap and overpowered weapons made specifically for nooblets" when I was using the Spas-12 on Havana. The next match I used nothing but a pistol (the CZ75 with extended mags) and completely cleaned up going about 23-3. The guy then proceeded to call me a cheater and tried to say that I was using a modded controller. I laughed and laughed and laughed especially since he had used an AK74u that game with rapid fire.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Oh my god, Gears of War 2 multiplayer. I swear it purposely seeks out people that it knows will hate me for various arbitrary reasons.

So I boot it up and go into an online match... cue being joined by some douchenozzle who thinks that my speech impediment is so hilarious he has to mimic it through laughter over the mic for the entire game, then team-kill me right near the end of the game just, and I quote "because you talk like a retard."

Okay, fuck him. I quit out and try another game. In this one, there's some douchebag who stalks me around the entire map, running ahead to pick up everything I was going for, then proceeding to waste it by throwing the grenades randomly about the room or firing his gun in a manner not unlike the Rich Texan from the Simpsons. You know, just blindly firing it into the air. So I get sick of his shit and team kill the ************, at which point he starts slagging me off for "not playing the game properly".

Then we come to the final game I attempted that day and honestly I must have hooked into a server from a church basement in Texas because the endless homophobia just because I happened to let slip that I'm only doing this to kill time until my boyfriend shows up... it was fucking insane.

Basically, Gears of War 2 is either full of cunts, or I'm the most unlucky bastard when it comes to human decency.