Ha ha. Considering how whiny they get, they ARE sometimes fun to play with.tiredinnuendo said:
Fixed.
Games that have been ruined by their Fans
- Thread starter Erana
- Start date
Recommended Videos
Fixed.
your a sneaky snake
Metal Gear Solid 2 and the rest. MGS wasn't written overnight. The creator spent years writing it and it shows. Then Konami and fans force him to quickly write up the sequel and what we get is a lame mish-mash of sci-fi and anime crap starring a bloke that looks like a girl.
Final Fantasy: I don't really know who's responsible, but whilst FF7, 8 & 9 had style and originality, all of the ones since again seem to be this influx of anime, girly boys, dumb love stories, idiotic battle systems and overdramatic presentation. I'm guessing FF is more for teenage girls these days- and it's just pathetic. I feel embarressed to admit I actually used to like Final Fantasy now.
All Ninendo games- if the fans didn't keep buying these lame Mario games maybe Nintendo would come out with some interesting, original titles.
Final Fantasy: I don't really know who's responsible, but whilst FF7, 8 & 9 had style and originality, all of the ones since again seem to be this influx of anime, girly boys, dumb love stories, idiotic battle systems and overdramatic presentation. I'm guessing FF is more for teenage girls these days- and it's just pathetic. I feel embarressed to admit I actually used to like Final Fantasy now.
All Ninendo games- if the fans didn't keep buying these lame Mario games maybe Nintendo would come out with some interesting, original titles.
I sincerely hope you're not including Snake Eater in that, or maybe even Portable Ops.Terramax said:
"Towards the end of 2007, Super Mario Galaxy won numerous awards such as Game of the Year from IGN, GameSpot, Nintendo Power, GameTrailers, Edge, and Yahoo! Games. On February 7, 2008, the game received the "Adventure Game of the Year" award from the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences at the Interactive Achievement Awards."-quoted from the wikipedia SMG pageTerramax said:
How is that a "lame Mario game"? Was everyone who played it brainwashed? Maybe you didn't like it, but saying it's ruined by its fans is pushing it.
Actually, my answer is somewhere in the middle. When I mean "fanatics", I mean the PvP elitists. I respect anyone's choice to play that type of game as long as they respect mine. I understand that Shadowbane and EVE are FFA winner take all games. That was what they were built to be. I accept that but I accept it by not playing those games.Joe said:
They are the people who scream "carebear", "pussy", "coward", etc. at everyone who disagrees with them. They are the people who demand that PvP deaths hurt the target more. Many of them are the ones who still can't accept the Trammel-Felucca situation in UO. And yes, they are the PKers who will do anything and everything possible to lock you out of a game in PvP-lite games like WoW. Look at the WoW forums. You can't throw a stone in there without hitting about 10 of them.
That's how I feel. The so-called "Elitists" are willing to take everything but bet nothing. When I play Pirates of the Burning Sea, I love how Pirate Players will RUN AWAY the moment ANYONE attacks them first, even if they stand a good chance of winning the fight in the end.General Ma Chao said:
Any game that is so popular that *****-ass pre-pubes whined to their mommies until they got it (Yes, Halo we are looking at you. Thanks for being to popular). Also the Grand theft auto series, that doesn't mean I not going to get GTA IV, I'm just going to get sick of it when I heard about how many hookers some douche killed for the billion and a half time.
So? I'm sure that extremely bashed Halo picked up a couple of awards too. Personally I haven't played SMG, but all that spin-off bullshit makes me sick and I don't really see much difference between SM64,SMS and SMG.Feels like the same game ported to the next generation of consoles.thebobmaster said:
PS: Sorry for my biased opinion but little fuckers like these (CoD4,Halo 3,Portal,SMG)stole the GOTY's from truly decent games like The Orange Box or Bioshock(I know I made some overhyped rants about it but let's face it, it's still a fucking masterpiece).
Guitar Hero and Legend of Zelda.
Guitar Hero has become a series of impossibly complex hammer ons and pull offs instead of a fun party game. Also, Guitar Hero 3 was really a sell out with all the ads for Axe Deodorant and Pontiac littering the levels along with a lot of songs that came out in the last 3 years. It just seemed like they were using the game to promote a bunch of cheap songs rather than picking songs that would be the most fun to play (like they did in Rock Band).
Legend of Zelda has been trapped in some sort of Ocarina of Time alternate reality since 1998. They released a rare direct sequel in Majora's Mask, which was by far the most distinct game they've released since. Then they came out with the Wind Waker, which was basically Ocarina of Time on a boat with a baton thing, but the basic story structure was the same. Then they released Twilight Princess, which contradicted a lot of what Wind Waker said and could have been a good standalone game in the series. But no, Nintendo had to relate it back to Ocarina of Time in very vague, weak ways that seemed really tacked on. They can't wait to throw Ganondorf into every single story.
Guitar Hero has become a series of impossibly complex hammer ons and pull offs instead of a fun party game. Also, Guitar Hero 3 was really a sell out with all the ads for Axe Deodorant and Pontiac littering the levels along with a lot of songs that came out in the last 3 years. It just seemed like they were using the game to promote a bunch of cheap songs rather than picking songs that would be the most fun to play (like they did in Rock Band).
Legend of Zelda has been trapped in some sort of Ocarina of Time alternate reality since 1998. They released a rare direct sequel in Majora's Mask, which was by far the most distinct game they've released since. Then they came out with the Wind Waker, which was basically Ocarina of Time on a boat with a baton thing, but the basic story structure was the same. Then they released Twilight Princess, which contradicted a lot of what Wind Waker said and could have been a good standalone game in the series. But no, Nintendo had to relate it back to Ocarina of Time in very vague, weak ways that seemed really tacked on. They can't wait to throw Ganondorf into every single story.
Friend, Portal was a part of the Orange Box. Besides, I felt like the Orange Box was cheating as a "Game" of the Year, as it was no less than FIVE games. How could anyone compete with a five headed behemoth?JakubK666 said:
Just to play a little bit of devil's advocate here, I would argue that in FFA games such as EVE you have better means to put smacktalkers and gank maniacs in their place. If someone is talking trash or keeps ridiculing you as a "n00b" or "carebear", get some friends together and set a nice fat trap for them. I've done it more than once. I think this is especially true in EVE, since it lacks a level system, and a bunch of new guys in frigates can overtake more experienced guys in ships that are hundreds of times more expensive. It's tough, and you have to rely on wave tactics, sure, but it does work. By contrast, in a game like WoW or SWG, if said smacktalker is of far higher level than you are, if you try to duel him you will get owned, or if you are similar levels, he simply won't fight.The Treasoner said:
As a long time player of EVE, I do feel that both the game and its players are significantly different from other MMOs, but I also understand that it's not to everyone's taste. In any case, that's my two cents on the matter.
Not only is Portal part of the Orange Box (as pointed out by others) but it's also part of the half of that box that qualifies for 2007 GOTY; HL2 and Ep.1 being rereleases from previous years.JakubK666 said:
I, too, loved Bioshock... but more as art than game; the story and presentation sucked me in, but the actual mechanics of the game felt tired to me. I can understand it being passed over for GOTY for titles that delivered better gameplay, like Portal's simplicity and elegance for instance.
-- Steve
lol repetition is in almost every video game ever. I mean that's why these games are in a SERIES. All of the Halo games are basically the same thing (run through levels and shoot anything that isn't human). Bioshock was basically System Shock 2. Zelda is simply following a formula that works. Ganondorf ties the games together in a series. Is Master Chief not in every Halo game?Mausenheimmer said:
There's no doubt that Bioshock is an excellent game, but so are the other titles that you called "little fuckers". You're kinda proving the point of this thread; you're ranting is ruining Bioshock for me. Just because you're game didn't sweep the GOTY awards doesn't mean that the other games suck. Man up and deal with it.JakubK666 said:
Yeah but the point is that you never hear about Portal as a part of TOB. It's always Portal this,Portal that.I'm 100% certain that Portal got more awards (Feeling risky; will go as far as twice) than The Orange Box. Imo as fun as it was, it was extremely overhyped and just not as good as Episode Two(Overall) or Team Fortress(Overall + Replayability).Anton P. Nym said:
So here's my problem with Portal. It was good but not great,yet it overshadowed far better games that came with it.
PS: Unless the levels will be designed by Chuck/God Portal 2 will probably be a failure.In first one ,the ending parts/Portal mechanics started to get repetitive and if the game was 6-10 hours long(You know just like proper games), it would get extremely boring.
Yes but there's a difference between repitition and unoriginality. For instance, the Master Chief in Halo 2 is the same as Master Chief from Halo 1, it is a continuation of the same story. He's not a completely different soldier in the future who happens to be fighting the same enemies in the same costume, as Zelda insists.irishdelinquent said:
In Zelda, there's a Link in Ocarina of Time. Then there's a Link 100 years later in the Great Ocean of Wind Waker that's the continuation. Then there's this other Link in Twilight Princess who is in a completely different world with completely different problems. I'll even accept that the Tri-Force needs to be there. However, Ganondorf's role in the game contradicts everything else they've told us about him. But rather than drown you in an essay, I'll leave it with this. Ganondorf had no reason to be in Twilight Princess other than to be included in Twilight Princess. There was no continuity leading up to it. He wasn't needed as a central villain. He was tacked on.
As for BioShock and System Shock 2, at least BioShock took place in an underwater dystopia which took some explaining. They didn't recycle the Citadel and change the layout around and give you the same villain with the exact same name and motivation.
Heck, Majora's Mask, despite being a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, had the least to do with Ocarina of Time. No Tri-Force, no Ganondorf tacked on, virtually no Zelda.
I never said that they suck. As I just wrote in my Portal post, some games' massive hype overshadows other games. As I already said I haven't played SMG but after spending some time playing CoD4, this game by no means deserve 10/10 scores,some weird freaks gave them(Game Informer,OXM,OPM UK).A I'm not exactly sure why it CoD4 got GOTY as well as "Best Xbox 360 game","Best Graphics","Best Shooter" and "Best Trailer".Especially when we're talking about the game that makes Halo look innovative(If you want a full list comparing both,go ahead and ask me).irishdelinquent said:
It seems like reviewers are getting less and less critical nowadays and we need to adapt a 1-12 scale for most game they review.In fact anything that's half-decent can get a 10/10, providing it was over-hyped enough.
