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Dark Prophet

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Hi
I'm planning to get a new gaming PC, but because it's been 10 years since I last built a PC from the ground up I'm asking you for some help.

This is my first attempt.
Intel Core i7-6700K, Quad Core, 4.00GHz
Arctic Freezer 13, CPU cooler
ASRock Z170A-X1, Z170, DualDDR4-2133, SATA3, RAID, DVI, ATX
DDR4 Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz CL14 1.2V
Crucial SSD MX200 500GB SATA3, 555/500MBs
Internal HDD WD Blue WD20EZRZ 3.5inch 2TB SATA3 64MB
Gainward GeForce GTX 1080 Phoenix, 8GB GDDR5X (256 Bit), HDMI, DVI, 3xDP
PSU Corsair VS Builder Series VS650 650W, 120mm, 80 PLUS
ASUS Card Sound Xonar DX/XD/A
Corsair computer case Carbide Series? SPEC-03 ORANGE LED Mid Tower Gaming case
Internal DRW LiteOn iHAS122-14, x22, SATA
Windows 10 Pro

Is there anything wrong with it, would you have used some other parts, would you have built it completely differently. Max price for the lot is 1800 euros.

Thank you for your answers in advance.
 

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I'd go for a 6600k i5 over the i7 and use the money saved to buy a better clocked 1080, personally. Outside shout to maybe going for 4x4gb sticks over 2x8gb sticks.
 

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dyneira said:
I'd go for a 6600k i5 over the i7 and use the money saved to buy a better clocked 1080, personally. Outside shout to maybe going for 4x4gb sticks over 2x8gb sticks.
What's the logic behind 4x4 over 2x8?
 

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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1779716/8gb-ram-stick-sticks.html
 

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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1779716/8gb-ram-stick-sticks.html
As I am reading it, the person is asking about 2x4 or 1x8 in a dual channel system. Where people say 2x4 because it provides the dual channel functionality rather than single channel.
If we you go with 4x4 you will slow the system (ever so sligthly, neigh negligible) but able to have tighter timings.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1866879/difference-8gb-ram-sticks-4gb-ram-sticks.html
 

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Boris Goodenough said:
What's the logic behind 4x4 over 2x8?
dyneira said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1779716/8gb-ram-stick-sticks.html
Not much, really. Unless you have a cpu socket with a quad channel memory controller (like for example LGA2011, which the OPs proposed motherboard doesn't have), there is little reason to go with 4x4 over 2x8. It'll put less stress on the memory controller, is less likely to lead to memory failure, and if you ever decide to add more RAM you'll still have those two slots left, unlike 4x4 where you'll have to replace all of it.
 

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Chimpzy said:
Boris Goodenough said:
What's the logic behind 4x4 over 2x8?
dyneira said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1779716/8gb-ram-stick-sticks.html
Not much, really. Unless you have a cpu socket with a quad channel memory controller (like for example LGA2011, which the OPs proposed motherboard doesn't have), there is little reason to go with 4x4 over 2x8. It'll put less stress on the memory controller, is less likely to lead to memory failure, and if you ever decide to add more RAM you'll still have those two slots left, unlike 4x4 where you'll have to replace all of it.
The reasons you just mentioned are why you should never add additional bought memory to current bought memory. If you have 2x8 and want to add another 2x8 then you'd buy 4x8 and pass the 2x8 on.
 

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Seems good overall but I'd swap out the 6700k for an i5 6600k, there's no real difference in gaming performance between the two. Maybe you could use the money you saved to buy a closed loop liquid cooler or something.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Seems good overall but I'd swap out the 6700k for an i5 6600k, there's no real difference in gaming performance between the two. Maybe you could use the money you saved to buy a closed loop liquid cooler or something.
Those scare me. True: they leak now, or they leak later? I just put a dozen fans in my system. Sounds like an air plane taking off but I feel safer about it.

Wonder if he should get a bigger power supply. 850 watts min.

I've read fewer SIMS the better. Stick to 2x8. GTX 1080? Some serious power. Good luck TC.
 

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Gorfias said:
Hazy992 said:
Seems good overall but I'd swap out the 6700k for an i5 6600k, there's no real difference in gaming performance between the two. Maybe you could use the money you saved to buy a closed loop liquid cooler or something.
Those scare me. True: they leak now, or they leak later? I just put a dozen fans in my system. Sounds like an air plane taking off but I feel safer about it.

Wonder if he should get a bigger power supply. 850 watts min.

I've read fewer SIMS the better. Stick to 2x8. GTX 1080? Some serious power. Good luck TC.
I've had a Corsair H55 in my PC for about a year now and I haven't had a single issue with it. It's nice and quite too.

The Power Supply is more than plenty, I have a 600W PSU paired with a GTX980 with no issues.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Gorfias said:
Those [liquid coolers] scare me. True: they leak now, or they leak later? .
Interesting. Cool about the power supply. I'll be doing my own build soon. I'm hoping the USB 4.0 comes out before I start. Right now, the RX 480 price is inflated. It supposed to be about $240. Not sure if I'll go Intel or AMD on the CPU. Likely Intel as they appear to run faster, cooler with less power consumption over-all.

I will look further into the liquid cooling as I'm thinking you're likely have dust in your system with one (though, do you still need some to plow air past the liquid pipes?
 

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I agree with the other poster about the i5. Also, why have you gone with a sound card instead of onboard sound? Audiophile? I can't tell the difference at all.

I also like the cooler you selected more than a liquid cooler. Just put the fan blowing through the heatsink towards the rear case fan and make sure the case fan is set to exhaust. You'll get great airflow through all your components this way. I also like to put a filter on my intake case fan at the bottom front but that's personal preference and I would only do it if you're comfortable pulling the face plate off your case. If you forget to clean the filter the constant whining of the case fans will no doubt remind you.
 

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Gorfias said:
Hazy992 said:
Gorfias said:
Those [liquid coolers] scare me. True: they leak now, or they leak later? .
Interesting. Cool about the power supply. I'll be doing my own build soon. I'm hoping the USB 4.0 comes out before I start. Right now, the RX 480 price is inflated. It supposed to be about $240. Not sure if I'll go Intel or AMD on the CPU. Likely Intel as they appear to run faster, cooler with less power consumption over-all.

I will look further into the liquid cooling as I'm thinking you're likely have dust in your system with one (though, do you still need some to plow air past the liquid pipes?
Isn't AMDs Zen series supposed to be coming out soon, along with a new socket? I'd maybe wait until then to decide, if AMD play their cards right they could end up being really good budget CPUs.

And yeah you still need a fan with a liquid cooler, I use mine as an exhaust.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Isn't AMDs Zen series supposed to be coming out soon, along with a new socket? I'd maybe wait until then to decide, if AMD play their cards right they could end up being really good budget CPUs.

And yeah you still need a fan with a liquid cooler, I use mine as an exhaust.
I'll review some more. I wonder if the Zen comes out on a motherboard that will finally have USB 4.0 (think it might be called "C" for some reason). Faster than USB 3.0, which, itself is pretty awesome but physically different: no more trying to figure out which side of the end goes up or down. Might be the biggest change since SSDs for hosting your OS.
 

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Dark Prophet said:
Hi
I'm planning to get a new gaming PC, but because it's been 10 years since I last built a PC from the ground up I'm asking you for some help.

This is my first attempt.
Intel Core i7-6700K, Quad Core, 4.00GHz
Arctic Freezer 13, CPU cooler
ASRock Z170A-X1, Z170, DualDDR4-2133, SATA3, RAID, DVI, ATX
DDR4 Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz CL14 1.2V
Crucial SSD MX200 500GB SATA3, 555/500MBs
Internal HDD WD Blue WD20EZRZ 3.5inch 2TB SATA3 64MB
Gainward GeForce GTX 1080 Phoenix, 8GB GDDR5X (256 Bit), HDMI, DVI, 3xDP
PSU Corsair VS Builder Series VS650 650W, 120mm, 80 PLUS
ASUS Card Sound Xonar DX/XD/A
Corsair computer case Carbide Series? SPEC-03 ORANGE LED Mid Tower Gaming case
Internal DRW LiteOn iHAS122-14, x22, SATA
Windows 10 Pro

Is there anything wrong with it, would you have used some other parts, would you have built it completely differently. Max price for the lot is 1800 euros.

Thank you for your answers in advance.
Looks like it will run like a charm, but....

-Stand alone sound card? integrated sound cards aren't the dirty word they used to be.(also if you are using USB headphones completely useless)
-Optic drive, you probably wouldn't miss it if you leave it out.
-PSU, power amount is good, but modulaire cables saves you a lot of hassle.
-Win10Pro, ask your self "am i going to use the pro features?" if NO, save your self ?40 and go for home.
-Mainboard, i think there are beter boards for less money available. (for same CPU/mem)
-GPU, a GTX 1070 would probably do just as well, A GTX 1080 is almost twice as expensive, but not twice as good.

hope this helps
 

Hazy992

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Gorfias said:
Hazy992 said:
Isn't AMDs Zen series supposed to be coming out soon, along with a new socket? I'd maybe wait until then to decide, if AMD play their cards right they could end up being really good budget CPUs.

And yeah you still need a fan with a liquid cooler, I use mine as an exhaust.
I'll review some more. I wonder if the Zen comes out on a motherboard that will finally have USB 4.0 (think it might be called "C" for some reason). Faster than USB 3.0, which, itself is pretty awesome but physically different: no more trying to figure out which side of the end goes up or down. Might be the biggest change since SSDs for hosting your OS.
Well some of the higher end Intel motherboards support USB Type C so there's no reason to think the AMD motherboards won't.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Gorfias said:
Hazy992 said:
Isn't AMDs Zen series supposed to be coming out soon, along with a new socket? I'd maybe wait until then to decide, if AMD play their cards right they could end up being really good budget CPUs.

And yeah you still need a fan with a liquid cooler, I use mine as an exhaust.
I'll review some more. I wonder if the Zen comes out on a motherboard that will finally have USB 4.0 (think it might be called "C" for some reason). Faster than USB 3.0, which, itself is pretty awesome but physically different: no more trying to figure out which side of the end goes up or down. Might be the biggest change since SSDs for hosting your OS.
Well some of the higher end Intel motherboards support USB Type C so there's no reason to think the AMD motherboards won't.
Oh wow. They exist already! They aren't called USB 4.0 but 3.1. Twice as fast as 3.0, and no wrong way to insert. And AMD has 'em too! I really need to start saving fast for this stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G3UK3147