Gangsta rap is by far the most influential and important music genre of the past 25 years

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Careful there. I hope you don't live in the UK. Or any part of the West that looks to follow suit.
Publicizing Racist Hate-speech is immoral and against the law. If you are white.

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Fuck the police is just as relevant now as it was 30 years ago
I believe it's "Fuck Tha Police", and I'll thank you for not WHITEWASHING the poetry of the 'hood with your Whiteness-Informed Spelling Rules.

I know because I still remember scratching it on the cell door with the edge of a coin that was left in my pocket, drunk as I was at the time.

But anyway, I think bitches can indeed be sumtin' other than ho's these days, so there's that.
 

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Yeah, but the mid 90s, naughties, and tenties has given us fuck all. It's not much of a competition.

People piss and moan about how cheesy the 80s and early 90s were, but fuck them. At least they gave us something. Even if some of it was mindless dribble like A-ha....

 

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Yeah, but the mid 90s, naughties, and tenties has given us fuck all. It's not much of a competition.
Now THAT isn't really true, like at all. Honestly, I would argue gangsta rap is probably one of the most important music genres of the entire 20th century. NWA is at least as influential as The Rolling Stones or The Beatles.
 

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Vendor-Lazarus said:
Careful there. I hope you don't live in the UK. Or any part of the West that looks to follow suit.
Publicizing Racist Hate-speech is immoral and against the law. If you are white.

Just a warning from your friendly neighbourhood forumhood Alt-Righter.
Hey guys, just keep in mind the next time you want to complain about 'SJW snowflake cucks' whining about everything and making everything about race/gender/whatever, there are people like this around. And they're extremely common. Personally I'd say they significantly outnumber those aforementioned 'SJWs'.

Anyway, on topic... yeah, I think you can make a case for that being true. Well, I don't think you could say 'by far'. But it was very significant. But it's all part of a branching tree of influence. Gangsta rap, other forms of rap, hip hop, R&B... and going back to jazz, swing, big band... and then going forward again to rock and all its offshoots... Music's a melting pot, and it's great.

That said, I think you could also make the case that early electronica has been the most influential and important aspect in music in the last half a century. That transition from analog to digital has gone on to pervade almost every genre there is. And the ones it doesn't pervade haven't really been influenced by rap of any sort.
 

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Anyway, on topic... yeah, I think you can make a case for that being true. Well, I don't think you could say 'by far'. But it was very significant. But it's all part of a branching tree of influence. Gangsta rap, other forms of rap, hip hop, R&B... and going back to jazz, swing, big band... and then going forward again to rock and all its offshoots... Music's a melting pot, and it's great.

That said, I think you could also make the case that early electronica has been the most influential and important aspect in music in the last half a century. That transition from analog to digital has gone on to pervade almost every genre there is. And the ones it doesn't pervade haven't really been influenced by rap of any sort.
Sure, Krautrock was supremely influential and important for later developments in music, but it was more who krautrock influenced that ended up changing everything, not the genre itself. It didn't really have much effect at the time; the same cannot be said for gangsta rap.
 

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There is only one song that does the impossible and is actually good. It teaches peeps that what you gonna do is what you wanna do and it is even dedicated to the real peeps, it is theme of the "G" coming through baby!

Just break the roof, and you see the truth, this is the greatest rap song and its revolution ain't never gonna televise but they're gonna make it a-happen with their crazy rap skill.

Row! Row! Fight the power!
 

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Now THAT isn't really true, like at all. Honestly, I would argue gangsta rap is probably one of the most important music genres of the entire 20th century. NWA is at least as influential as The Rolling Stones or The Beatles.
But I don't really mean it like that. I'm not legitimately saying everything is shit ... I'm saying that there is a postmodern shift into the indefinable. Like I really, really like some of Sia's stuff. There's individual artists tht make interesting music. And Alanis Morisette is still awesome (fite me, fuckers).


Someone tell me what this is, but also tell me how this unmelodious, rambling, trainwreck of sounds is still chillable to?

But the 80s and early nineties gave us Metal-rock political firebrands like RATM. But it also gave us high-Glam Rock. It gave us whatever the hell Billy Idol decided to do that month, synthwave, late-Punk, and 90% of the baseline rhythms and beats that DJs and all techno/dance music will ever use.

Gangster rap is influential. But it's also one of the more easier genres to wrap things up in. 90% of stuff is kind of vaguely alterna-rock.
 

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BreakfastMan said:
Now THAT isn't really true, like at all. Honestly, I would argue gangsta rap is probably one of the most important music genres of the entire 20th century. NWA is at least as influential as The Rolling Stones or The Beatles.
But I don't really mean it like that. I'm not legitimately saying everything is shit ... I'm saying that there a postmodern shift into the indefinable.
In rock music that might be more true. Outside of rock, however? You got trap, you got crunk, you got witch house, you got vapour wave, you got synth wave, you got dubstep, you got cloud rap, you got experimental/industrial hip hop. The fact that mostly different flavors of indie/alt has dominated the rock scene for the past two decades is more a sign of rock's utter failure as a genre to sustain it's popularity, not a sign that popular music in general is becoming more blob-like.
 

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Yeah, but the mid 90s, naughties, and tenties has given us fuck all. It's not much of a competition.

People piss and moan about how cheesy the 80s and early 90s were, but fuck them. At least they gave us something. Even if some of it was mindless dribble like A-ha....

I still love that animation blend~
 

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In rock music that might be more true. Outside of rock, however? You got trap, you got crunk, you got witch house, you got vapour wave, you got synth wave, you got dubstep, you got cloud rap, you got experimental/industrial hip hop. The fact that mostly different flavors of indie/alt has dominated the rock scene for the past two decades is more a sign of rock's utter failure as a genre to sustain it's popularity, not a sign that popular music in general is becoming more blob-like.
Okay, but both synthwave and hip hop are clearly 80s. And the only difference between dubstep and techno (mid/late 80s) is location of birth and the exact tempo shift.

Techno can sound like dubstep. But dubstep can never sound like most techno. And don't forget ... 80s Electro.
 

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BreakfastMan said:
In rock music that might be more true. Outside of rock, however? You got trap, you got crunk, you got witch house, you got vapour wave, you got synth wave, you got dubstep, you got cloud rap, you got experimental/industrial hip hop. The fact that mostly different flavors of indie/alt has dominated the rock scene for the past two decades is more a sign of rock's utter failure as a genre to sustain it's popularity, not a sign that popular music in general is becoming more blob-like.
Okay, but both synthwave and hip hop are clearly 80s. And the only difference between dubstep and techno (mid/late 80s) is location of birth and the exact tempo shift.

Techno can sound like dubstep. But dubstep can never sound like most techno. And don't forget ... 80s Electro.
I mean, the source of both genres might be in the late 70's, early 80's. But I doubt you will find much in common between Sugar Hill Gang and Danny Brown. Same can't be same for rock, as it stopped evolving/growing in around '98.
 

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I mean, the source of both genres might be in the late 70's, early 80's. But I doubt you will find much in common between Sugar Hill Gang and Danny Brown. Same can't be same for rock, as it stopped evolving/growing in around '98.
True enough. I will say conversely, as I said before I'm not saying that stuff is just inherently shit.

Even 'blob-likes' as you eloquently put it.

Like Alanis Morisette is vaguely alterna-rock (or bloblike), and I used to chill to that as a teenager. But if you were to ask me to define it, the best I could call it is mid-90s. But definitely not bad. And then you got some Sia stuff. Which you could only call pop-jazz/funk fusion for the most part.