Gay Relationships

[Lilikins]

As in all my posts I really dont want to start any type of flame war or any type of war in that respect.
Seeing as we are such a great community (in my opinion atleast..) Id actually like to ask the escapist what they find of same sex relationships. Myself? Im male and have a fiancee who is female, so Im not really in this demographic. Nevertheless though, I have a a few friends who are gay (both female and male).

Im just wondering in a neutral setting as Im used to from here (atleast in the topics I usually post.. ) what you all think of it. I do of course accept both answers of it being completely right and 'completely wrong'.

The only thing I ask is that everyone who answers in this topic, please dont attack someone who doesnt have the same oppinion as you..giving a counter argument is ok...but really, please dont attack someone because of their opinion .



All in all, to answer my own question...

I find same sex relationships ok, and I find it should be allowed all over the world that marriage is allowed. If you love someone, you love them...end of discussion. I met my fiancee/soon to be wife online...while nuking zombies haha I never asked if she was male or female...we just had a crap load of fun together blowing up zombies. It never occured to me if she was male or female...ofc after I heard her voice, I knew she was female, and generally fell in love with her (So from that standpoint, I cant tell if I wouldve reacted the same way as if a male voice were speaking....) but just...after a while I felt she was the 'one'...

Henceforth...I think after a while I think that no matter her sex...I fell in love with her personality...so even if it were of the same sex..I think I wouldve fallen love regardless.

Yes that may seem 'gay' as some may say but Im used to proper discussions here and looking at the greater aspect of it so I really....dont have the fear of being called a fag or anything like that as on other boards


So please Escapists, tell me your opinion, and keep it clean please, no hate, and just a friendly environment in this theme.

 

[tippy2k2]

I have zero problems with homosexuals and I feel like they deserve the right to marriage just as much as everyone else. I am not gay and I don't see any situation where I would be interested in men in that way but I don't have any problem with it.

I find it...baffling? baffling is a good word....baffling that there is anyone who could possibly be against gay marriage but they can have that opinion. I find it an incredibly silly and stupid opinion but why should you care what I think?

 

[Elfgore]

To quote Peter Griffin "If gay people want to get married and be miserable like the rest of us, I say let them."

That pretty much sums up my opinion on it.

 

[JoJo]

From the perspective of someone sitting on the sexuality fence, same sex relationships are pretty much like opposite sex ones, except you're both the same sex. People can like or dislike it if they want, all I ask is that people don't try to write their religious or personal morals into the law.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Yea I'm pro equality on all fronts. I'm not a fan of "Gay Culture" mostly because I find it to actually work against inclusion and promote untrue stereotypes about gays, I used to work with a Bisexual woman who actually turned me on to this notion.

But like I said straight, gay, whatever we're all human and in my opinion you cant justify bigotry.

 

[Ten Foot Bunny]

Considering I've spent quite a few years of my life in gay relationships, it's safe to say that I have no problem with them. In fact, I prefer them! I'll be in one for the rest of my life when I find the right woman.

 

[Michel Henzel]

Most normal thing in the world. One of my friends father is a married gay man (yes it's his biological son and yes it's a long story) and has been married for almost 14 years. Two of my friends are gay, one being a effeminate and flamboyant type that probably fits several stereotypes. Think tyler oakley on crack times 10. But he's a funny guy and I swear he's gonna kill me through making me laugh too much someday. The other...hmm, he's like a gay George Clooney, so the exact opposite of my other friend. To his own chagrin, he's a huge chick magnet XD.

 

[username sucks]

Well I'm a guy in a relationship with another guy, so I'd have to say I support same-sex relationships and all that jazz. But yeah, the relationships are pretty much the same, just with two people of the same sex. No real reason to be against it, yeah?

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

I have no issues with gay relationships. I find the behavior of people trying to dictate whom complete strangers should or should not be interested in kind of silly actually.

 

[Xan Krieger]

I've got no problem with them though I don't believe in gay marriage. I want them to have equal rights though so I'm all for changing "marriage" to "civil union" in every country in the world.

 

[Mumbly]

Who people are in a relationship with is, as long as it's consensual, their own business. I'm in no position to judge. I do hope that the rights for same-sex relationships get equalized with the rights heterosexual couples have get sped up a bit, that matter should have been resolved eons ago.

 

[Vault101]

erm..yay? kind of preaching to the choir here

so to stir things up a little....

a lot of people are fine with gay people UNLESS they are confronted with it in situations they don't expect it, or they say things that are homophobic but they don't think it is (like guys who are fine with "lesbians" [footnote/]lesbians as defined by their standards[/footnote] but not gay men) views that can be shared by some gay people even

[quote/][I/]oh your gay? at least your one of the "good" ones, not like the Dykes (or the fags)

why do we need gay pride parades? its not like we have straight pride parades

whos the man?

who's the woman?

but your too pretty to be gay!

but your too masculine to be gay!

ect[/I] [/quote]

peoples issue with gay people seems to be that they sometimes bend our ideas of gender roles and how men/woman should dress/act...people don't like that. I heard once interesting theory that the homophobia from straight men is often Bourne from misogyny

and then there's the whole Bi thing...I kind of *get* on some level (but do not condone) the stigma of being "bi" there's that insecurity they'll have their fun then leave for "normal" [b/]completely unfounded yes[/b] but in our society its there,

also hard for women in that you're not taken seriously, like if you're a Bi woman with another woman your Bi..but when youre with a man that apparently makes you straight? or your experimenting or thourght to be promiscuous and up for anything (terms like "bi" even "poly" seem to be OH THREESOME!!! flags, particularly for straight people)

and if you're a bi guy...well you don't exist

interestingly we had a discussion with my sister (30's married 1 year old child) about gay people a guy in our small town turned out to be gay and at one point...probably a few years ago my cousin threatened to kill him...over a few beers no doubt. Her fiancé is apparently kind of homophobic in that "bro-ish" way men often are

she's "fine" with gay people but I suspect if someone close to her came out she'd flip a bit

personally I've toyed with the idea but....its complicated

and it is complicated, because there's a lot of pressure, its one thing to come out but then if you find you like the opposite sex at some point you're then validating all those homophobic assholes or risk the scorn of other gay people

That's the big thing I don't understand about people who oppose other sexualities. How is it any of their business who other people are fucking?

the thing is...aside from religion I don't think there's a lot of thought put into it, its like a kneejerk reaction

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I read all your posts in Gillian Andersons voice

 

[Zhukov]

Indifferent.

My stance on morality in sex and relationships basically boils down to, "If it's between consenting adults then it's all good." Even if other people (be they gay, straight, whatever) are doing stuff I find gross or weird then it's still none of my damn business. They're not hurting anybody, leave 'em to it.

That's the big thing I don't understand about people who oppose other sexualities. How is it any of their business who other people are fucking?

 

[Longing]

live and let live peeps. live and let live.

love should be celebrated as long as it's between two consenting adults and it's sad that people keep bringing so much hate into it.

I remember a conversation with one of my now very close friend on my first day at a previous job. We were both alone and she came up next to me and said "I'm gay and I just wanted you to know right now in case you had a problem with it."

And isn't that heartbreaking? That she'd have no announce that to me because previous people did take offense? To something that doesn't even remotely concern them?

let's have a moderate amount of decency for everyone.

 

[Someone Depressing]

I don't see what the problem with gay marriage is. Gay people are pretty cool. Have you been to one of their parades? Fabulous as all hell.

I've never met a homophobic person whose argument didn't involve religion or an actual point, so homophobia as a concept is utter bullshit.

 

[Dizchu]

The only huge distinction I personally find between men and women are their appearances (though the confines of our biological sex aren't as rigid as they may initially appear).

It is because of this that I regard gay and straight relationships pretty much the same. They're not "man and woman", "man and man" or "woman and woman". They're just "person and person" to me.[footnote]Or maybe person and person and person? Oh myyyyyyyy.[/footnote]

I'm not trying to be super-edgy and new-age, that's actually how I feel.

 

[cathou]

since i'm legally married to another woman, and that we have 2 children (both by artificial insemination), i guess it would be very weird if i was against gay Relationship...

 

[Super Cyborg]

I'm in what somewhat of a contradictory stance, I assume it's the best way to put it?

I personally don't support it, and I guess I could be considered somewhat homophobic (assuming I understand the meaning correctly, as until someone here pointed out in another thread a bit more of what it means. I'm assuming I'm somewhat one because I don't support it, and at times make gay jokes).

However, that said, I am of the mind set that people can do whatever they want, as long as it only affects them for doing said action. People having a relationship with each other does not affect me in a negative way, so if they are any type of sexuality, I don't care.

I'll let you be, just like you will let me be.

 

[JimB]

It is baffling to me that anyone would waste the time or energy to even have a negative opinion about a relationship he's not in just because of the sexes of the people involved. I seriously do not get it. I mean, I'm the kind of straight where I feel physically uncomfortable watching men be affectionate to one another, and even so, I can't imagine a reason to actually be opposed to gay relationships. I get around my discomfort perfectly fine by, y'know, just not kissing any men.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

I find it rather incompressible that anyone could be bothered by it for any reasons other than religious indoctrination. And I'm not saying that in the snarky "fuck everyone with a different opinion" kind of way, I've just thought about these types of things many times and have just come up short on any rational reasons to be out right bothered by it. Personally, i am fully in support of civil unions, but i'm more or less neutral on the marriage side of things, since i regard that particular debate as nothing more than a slap fight over a word (although i am more on the side of full marriage).

Although, the only kinds of sexuality i really have any significant problem with are pedophilia and rape (even though pedophilia is basically is rape). And even then ... I don't really have such a problem as long as people don't act on it.

That said, I'm not too fond of "gay culture," or anyone who acts like the stereotypical gay guys. Not out of any real contempt, i just find the flamboyant behavior to be rather tiresome.