Gears Of War. Over rated?

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PaulLAD

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Well, I lent Gears of War off my mate, and in my opinion it is majorly over rated.

A few points I found bad about G.O.W

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded.
3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.

There are a few points I love about it.
1) Gore is awesome
2) Hammer of dawn is just fuckin' sweet.
3) Funniest character has got to be, Coletrain; is he Terry Tate, by the way?

Man, I sound like a dick, I just think it's overrated is all.
 

tiredinnuendo

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You get better at the Live matches. My secret was always to use the Lancer and aim for the legs. So many people think charging in with the shotgun blind-firing is the way to go, but if you take out their legs, they drop pretty fast and you can do teh curb-stomp finisher. Also, popping out of cover a bit longer than they expect can be both bad or great for you, depending on how you use it.

As to the movements, I can't really say much. As a game, GoW resonated with me better than many shooters do. It played in a style that spoke to me, and, while the game itself was short and dull, I really enjoyed the gameplay. I never really had any trouble with clunky movement or anything else.

Final hint to enjoy GoW. The guns are not what you think the guns should be. The pistol is the traditional sniper, the rocket launcher is more like a bow, the bow *is* the rocket launcher, and the machinegun is a melee weapon. That can take some adjustment.

- J
 

PedroSteckecilo

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I find that GOW, while overrated, is still an excellent game. My main dislike were those stupid Berserker missions, ground the games pacing to a halt for me.
 

L.B. Jeffries

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I get your criticism, but it sounds like you wish you were playing an FPS. I mean, you can't fit a size 12 shoe onto a size 8 foot.

The story goes that Cliffy B. was playing paintball incessantly and started wondering about making it into a video game. If you've ever played paintball, then you know that it's very contrary to running around and gunning. You find a great spot for cover, take shots, duck, and dash around to other spots. That was how the idea for GoW was born, a paintball simulation. The fun comes from hiding, running to spots, and taking shots. So everything is slowed down a bit.
 

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Yeah, Gears of War is in fact a good game, overrated?, yes; good? also. the thing that kind of struck me at the time of it's release was the whole fuss about the cover system, everyone was like "ooohh the cover sytem the cover system", and all I can think was "yeah a cover system- BIG FUCKING DEAL!" The visuals did blow me away actually.
 

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I've never played it for more than half an hour but my brother and one of my friends were addicted from it's release to Vegas and the one thing that really struck me as an observer was the atmosphere. GoW does a great job of establishing it's own atmosphere and keeping it going throughout the game and even the multiplayer, to a degree. As much as I love Call of Duty 4 and R6: Vegas they haven't created their own setting, they have borrowed it and adapted it to their specific uses. For me GoW felt like something completely different that I had never experienced before.
 

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for me I got tired of it pretty quickly, it was the first game I bought for me new shiny x-box 360. Now that Gears 2 is coming out I decided to give the first another shot and had fun, for a little while.
I started throwing shit around when I had to die at least once every checkpoint in later levels though. And watching a loading screen as much as you play is a overrated game in my opinion.
 

PaulLAD

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tiredinnuendo said:
You get better at the Live matches. My secret was always to use the Lancer and aim for the legs. So many people think charging in with the shotgun blind-firing is the way to go, but if you take out their legs, they drop pretty fast and you can do teh curb-stomp finisher. Also, popping out of cover a bit longer than they expect can be both bad or great for you, depending on how you use it.

As to the movements, I can't really say much. As a game, GoW resonated with me better than many shooters do. It played in a style that spoke to me, and, while the game itself was short and dull, I really enjoyed the gameplay. I never really had any trouble with clunky movement or anything else.

Final hint to enjoy GoW. The guns are not what you think the guns should be. The pistol is the traditional sniper, the rocket launcher is more like a bow, the bow *is* the rocket launcher, and the machinegun is a melee weapon. That can take some adjustment.

- J
I suppose your right, i just don't give games much of a go to be honest,
i just play them and if theres one bad point, i'll build the bad points.

Thanks everyone for replying and showing interest.

- PaulLAD
 

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I LOVED this game when it first came out. Partly because I had a week off of school while my roommate had probably his toughest workload ever so we would have all-nighters of him sitting on the couch doing work and watching me play. I got insanely good at it on the first week it was out and then got back into school and had no chance of playing until a few months later. By that time everyone else got insanely good and they had changed the dynamics with patches, so I went back to being a noob at it. It wasn't too much fun being raped within 30 seconds of being spawned and have to watch everyone else play.

Otherwise, the single player is pretty fun for a while and the guns feel great. I would say its over-rated because of how its geared more towards the people that play online more than they should and makes the noob easily raped when trying to play a match with them. Truthfully, if they were able to make it so you played with people of your own skill it would have more legs to it and not be too over-rated.

Also, the gore is fucking brutal and awesome... In a disgusting way.
 

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PaulLAD said:
Well, I lent Gears of War off my mate, and in my opinion it is majorly over rated.

A few points I found bad about G.O.W

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded.
3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.

There are a few points I love about it.
1) Gore is awesome
2) Hammer of dawn is just fuckin' sweet.
3) Funniest character has got to be, Coletrain; is he Terry Tate, by the way?

Man, I sound like a dick, I just think it's overrated is all.
Your arguments are more about personal preference then the actual game itself. Some stuff you mentioned:

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
Rolling/diving is the a button if I recall correctly, which is for cover not moving. So howcome you're diving with just moving around the joystick? You can't move 180 degrees in a splitsecond ala counterstrike, which from what I"m reading is what you wanted. People in gears move very realistically and I have no problem what so ever moving around. Of course except for when you wish you could turn so fast, to avoid that melee attack up close quicker. Just keep in mind that it isn't a twitchy paced shooter and enjoy the change for a bit.

2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded. Again, would you move at hl1 speed in a realistic manner with a heavy combat suit on? The answer is no. As for the sprint button, it's kind of logical to expect to move forward faster with sprint? The sprint is very usefull for crossing open spaces fast, which is very usefull in the berserker levels.

3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
Because it isn't cod4 but gears. Cod4 had a ridiculous amount of nadespamming and I'm gratefull they're actually less common to find in gears. Meaning you have to save them for when you really need them, again more realistic. They are very powerfull as well, instant throw and spam would ruin the game.

4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.
Even though I barely played gears mp, when I did the better players had me down really fast even with guns instead of melee. Headshots are key, you're just shooting armor otherwise I think.

Imo gears is one of the best games in some time. Not because it's groundbreaking storywise, not because it tries something new. But because the cover is more then a gimmick like in most games, it becomes second nature to use cover. Every part of cover is designed in a way so you get into it easily, unlike the annoying rainbow six for instance. Hopping from cover to cover is extremely easy, unlike gta4 for example. Almost no bugs at all, extremely polished , very goodlooking leveldesign and a fitting level of gore combined with excellent coop gameplay makes gears one of my fav. games to play with a friend. Sorry, just had to comment :)
 

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PaulLAD said:
Well, I lent Gears of War off my mate, and in my opinion it is majorly over rated.

A few points I found bad about G.O.W

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded.
3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.

There are a few points I love about it.
1) Gore is awesome
2) Hammer of dawn is just fuckin' sweet.
3) Funniest character has got to be, Coletrain; is he Terry Tate, by the way?

Man, I sound like a dick, I just think it's overrated is all.
Gears of War is definetely an overrated game but for me it is a good one, here are my main bad points;

1)Linear gameplay; run around, shoot, take cover, maybe throw a grenade at a small pack of enemy troops throughout the whole game. Ok there are a few different enemies to face but they are few and far between (though sometimes quite amazing battles).

2)Story; Much is left to the imagination and most of the time I'm wondering about some of the character's history and how this war even began.

3)Online Play; The lag makes killing people sometimes impossible, there's no match-making, there aren't too many decent maps to play on and because of the linear gameplay, the matches become boring and full of situations you've seen countless times.

3 of my friends play this game non-stop and I wonder why it's so addictive. It doesn't seem to be worth the hype and praise it's been given, because in the end it's not a spectacularly innovative game.

Having said that, I enjoyed going through the story, since then though i've not really touched it.

P.S. Yes it is Terry Tate, brilliant!
 

PaulLAD

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Damn Dirty Ape said:
PaulLAD said:
Well, I lent Gears of War off my mate, and in my opinion it is majorly over rated.

A few points I found bad about G.O.W

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded.
3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.

There are a few points I love about it.
1) Gore is awesome
2) Hammer of dawn is just fuckin' sweet.
3) Funniest character has got to be, Coletrain; is he Terry Tate, by the way?

Man, I sound like a dick, I just think it's overrated is all.
Your arguments are more about personal preference then the actual game itself. Some stuff you mentioned:

1) Very clumsy movements, I try and move slightly and he dives or something stupid like that.
Rolling/diving is the a button if I recall correctly, which is for cover not moving. So howcome you're diving with just moving around the joystick? You can't move 180 degrees in a splitsecond ala counterstrike, which from what I"m reading is what you wanted. People in gears move very realistically and I have no problem what so ever moving around. Of course except for when you wish you could turn so fast, to avoid that melee attack up close quicker. Just keep in mind that it isn't a twitchy paced shooter and enjoy the change for a bit.

2) You move so slowly and why in hell is there a run button to go forward, that's seriously retarded. Again, would you move at hl1 speed in a realistic manner with a heavy combat suit on? The answer is no. As for the sprint button, it's kind of logical to expect to move forward faster with sprint? The sprint is very usefull for crossing open spaces fast, which is very usefull in the berserker levels.

3) Why do you have to wield a grenade for fuck sakes, be more like Call of Duty 4 and just chuck one, before wasting 5 seconds equipping it?
Because it isn't cod4 but gears. Cod4 had a ridiculous amount of nadespamming and I'm gratefull they're actually less common to find in gears. Meaning you have to save them for when you really need them, again more realistic. They are very powerfull as well, instant throw and spam would ruin the game.

4) It takes ages to kill someone on Xbox Live; the guns must shoot bum nuggets.
Even though I barely played gears mp, when I did the better players had me down really fast even with guns instead of melee. Headshots are key, you're just shooting armor otherwise I think.

Imo gears is one of the best games in some time. Not because it's groundbreaking storywise, not because it tries something new. But because the cover is more then a gimmick like in most games, it becomes second nature to use cover. Every part of cover is designed in a way so you get into it easily, unlike the annoying rainbow six for instance. Hopping from cover to cover is extremely easy, unlike gta4 for example. Almost no bugs at all, extremely polished , very goodlooking leveldesign and a fitting level of gore combined with excellent coop gameplay makes gears one of my fav. games to play with a friend. Sorry, just had to comment :)
fair enough dude, true.
i'm being pretty much fucked over :p

please excuse, haha
 

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I only ever played GoW at my mates house but I was pretty impressed with it. Mabey it's because games you play but don't have yourself seem so much more fun, but anyway... I have reasons to justify this of course.

1: The graphics were stunning, every time I see it I can't help thinking that and often saying it out loud. I know graphics arent everything in a game, but in something like GoW that is meant to be pretty atmospheric they really add to the experience.

2: The kills are very satisfying. C'mon, what isn't pleasing about chainsawing an ugly nasy in half, or smashing their head open watermelon style with a sniper.

3: The surroundings were cool, but then, I have a real thing for post-apocolyptic war zones with slightly gothic arcitecture. The ruined urban combat zone also ensured that you were never short of cover, as this was the main element of the gameplay. Inplimenting the cover like GoW did also geared it toward more methodical gamers like myself, not so much the 'charge-in- all-guns-blazing-get-twenty-headshots-in-the-first-second-or-you're-going-to-die' gamers (I bet not having a crosshair threw you a bit).

4:Cole 'Train'. It's worth playing just for his dialogue. "Can't stop the train, baby!"

Overall I don't think it's that overrated, tough the multiplayer is full of glitches. And why did they put in the orbital strike laser (can't remember the proper name)? It makes whoever has it and is standing on a hill near invinceible. I also personally thought that it's gameplay style wasn't very multiplayer freindly, it's too slow for that, but this same style makes the campaign an excellent and atmospheric blood bath, great with a freind too.
 
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I honestly didn't like GoW. The single player was extremely linear, the guns were over-generic (except the chainsaw bayonet. That was cool)...in the end, I found NOTHING justifying it as the best shooter available on the 360. Which I had heard it was, over and over. And I tried multiplayer, but it may be because I suck, but I couldn't enjoy the game with someone headshotting me or chainsawing me from behind every 30 seconds.
 

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I do love this game, but it was definitely overrated. I did really enjoy the multiplayer though, at least when I was actually in matches with relatively sane people.

Elaborating on that, if you can find a few good friends, or even strangers, that like to actually work together it makes the online play more fun, at least in my opinion. For a while I just used to jump into ranked matches, which usually ended in absolute failure because my team would be too busy arguing over the longshot because they "only needed 23 more headshots for the achievement!!" rather than killing the other team.
 

Break

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Overrated by whom, exactly? The internet has been saying that it's "fun, but not great" for ages, now.
 

stompy

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Break said:
Overrated by whom, exactly? The internet has been saying that it's "fun, but not great" for ages, now.
I really can't improve upon the statement.

I went into GeOW expecting a TPS with a cover mechanic. And this is what I got, so I don;t think it was over-rated. Ah well, maybe you should play the games you enjoy, such as COD4.
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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Well Over-rated doesn't exactly mean "the game is bad" - it was over-rated when the game came out, and there are still some fanboys that fap daily to the gears 2 footage, but yeah, anything that gets more praise than it deserves = over rated.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
...anything that gets more praise than it deserves = over rated.
But who's to say if it gets more praise then it deserves? I don't feel that there IS such a thing as "overrated" or "underrated". If I like a game more then any other one on the market, who are any of you to tell me that it's "overrated"?

In fact, these whole "is x game overrated" threads seem silly. There are only two real answers, and it's not like I'm gonna change anybodys mind by saying "GOW kicks ass" any more then you will change my mind by saying "GOW sucks ass". Hell, change the title to "Halo. Over rated?" and this sucker would be locked in about three seconds.
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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qbert4ever said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
...anything that gets more praise than it deserves = over rated.
But who's to say if it gets more praise then it deserves? I don't feel that there IS such a thing as "overrated" or "underrated". If I like a game more then any other one on the market, who are any of you to tell me that it's "overrated"?

In fact, these whole "is x game overrated" threads seem silly. There are only two real answers, and it's not like I'm gonna change anybodys mind by saying "GOW kicks ass" any more then you will change my mind by saying "GOW sucks ass". Hell, change the title to "Halo. Over rated?" and this sucker would be locked in about three seconds.
OK Well everyone has their own opinion - and "to each his own" etc. that is just in the "opinion" category - but when it comes to rating something, you've gotta take all things into consideration, if it got a 6.74/10 - it doesn't mean you will hate the game, that's just a fair score, and if your only rebuttal to it is "well I liked it" or "well i hated it" - without criticism, you basically just become a fanboy.

Example: Gears of Wars graphics are great! They have very high res. textures!

Other person: Yeah, but it was overly lighted, had blurry backgrounds to disguise flaws or make the areas seem bigger than they are, the only colors are "Brown, Grey, Red, Muzzle Flash" - and it just doesn't make the most of the engine.

So do you give the graphics a "8/10" or a lower number? You've gotta balance things out when it comes to rating something, but just because something is over or under rated shouldn't effect how you feel about the game, but it doesn't mean there isn't a such thing as "over or under rated".