Good Gaming pc? I'm suspicious

[Breno]

Hi all thanks for helping firstly.

Okay so i got 600 euro or 500 pound sterling to buy a nice awld gaming pc for my self and i found this nice one with a few adjustments is the best i could find considering i don't want to build one

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-344-OE&tool=3 - just change the OS from none to windows 7 or 8 i haven't decided yet, and 4gigs to 8gigs of ram and finally change the graphics card to a AMD radeon HD 7770 and thats my build adding delivery costs and how the prices fluctuates. it to comes to around 500 pound or 600 euro.

what do you think of this build? can u recommend any changes? keep in my mind i do NOT want to build my own. I have no spare time this year no matter how easy it so could u please refrain from the usual "build your own is better and easier" stuff, thanks (however I would be comfortable installing a graphics card or some more ram if the price change was wroth it) also has anyone ever used overclockers? if so i have 2 questions: they good? and do they add a sneakey charge at the end?

i also have 100 for a monitor but i think i got that one down.

only thing im kinda worried about is the motherboard, apparently it limits your CPU which i do not like but it can be changed it the bios but I'm afraid id end up overclocking it which i do not want. also I'm not sure if it has on board wifi and i heard the sounds a bit sketchy

oh and im aiming to play games from simcity, wow, guild wars 2 and if it can handle it some planetside 2,maybe DAY-Z, starcraft 2 and BF3 which apparently it can do on ultra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeaShIq4ls

also id like to play some old games i have like dawn of war dark crusade and empire earth 2 which my current windows 7 laptop can but can windows 8? if anyone knows that be great

http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator.jsp?pcConfigurator.step.1=1

also found this site which will build a pc from your spec for 20euro which seems really good but not sure if they automatically make sure your parts are compatible also not sure if its a trusted site.

again thanks for any contribution, its really helpful.

 

[Frezzato]

[...]http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator.jsp?pcConfigurator.step.1=1

also found this site which will build a pc from your spec for 20euro which seems really good but not sure if they automatically make sure your parts are compatible also not sure if its a trusted site[...]

At the very bottom of that site is a logo for something called 'Trusted Shops'. I've never heard of the Trusted Shops certification, but it looks similar to the TRUSTe [http://www.truste.com/consumer-privacy/trusted-directory/] logo, which is a legit organization. I'm also not familiar with any retail sites outside the US other than Amazon UK.

A quick search on Trusted Shops for the main domain of that German link gives this response [http://www.trustedshops.co.uk/profile/hardwareversand-de_X2657A5B7EC024039D5F7FBE8660F879C.html].

If you speak German then I would read the reviews on the Trusted Shops site first. The site may be legit, but their customer service policies may speak otherwise.

*EDIT* I opened the Trusted Shops review of Hardwareversand.de in Chrome and translated it to English [https://www.trustedshops.de/bewertung/info_X2657A5B7EC024039D5F7FBE8660F879C.html]. The most recent reviews are negative, but overall there are positive reviews, which seems normal to me. It's a sign of a large organization. Still, I would buy from out of the country only as a last resort.

 

[OneCatch]

I got all of my PC components from Overclockers about a year ago, the only problem I had with a hard drive was dealt with really well by them. The forums there are also helpful provided you're asking about OCUK stuff. No reason to think that their custom builds are problematic, and they don't ever seem to rip people off.

In terms of extra costs there's postage which is included on the checkout page for UK delivery, but might be significant if you're in mainland Europe. The VAT is labelled pretty clearly, but be sure it include it.

It will almost certainly have ethernet. I can't see a wireless card in that build so I suspect it isn't wireless, but you can buy and install a wireless PCI card or dongle pretty easily.
If the audio was bad you could add an audio card in the same way, but bear in mind that the motherboard only has one spare PCI slot. So if you wanted to add an audio card you'd need to use a USB wireless dongle instead of a wireless PCI card.

Upgrading RAM could be a problem because there's only 2 slots on that motherboard. You'd have to replace what you already had instead of adding to it, which means it would probably be better to order 8 gig initially. 8 gig will be fine for gaming for quite some time yet.

I'm not really familiar with AMD socket builds so I'll leave that question to someone else.

 

[AWAR]

As always it boils down to what kind of PSU this prebuild will have, and there isn't any option to change that. I suggest you look at a different shop, one that actually lets you customize more stuff. A Corsair 430watt might suffice for a 7770, but anything more powerful than that will be pushing it. the motherboard isn't specified either, which is bad.
As for the 4130, I wouldn't buy a PC with it. Bulldozer chips are known for having all shorts of problems and compatibility issues. They were generally trashy and a bit rushed. I recommend a 4300 or 6300.