Growing up I was horrified of the idea of a hostile Alien invasion.

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Consider this thread as a "INB4 Halloween themed/scary theme" thread before October hits.

So yes one of the things that freaked me out was the idea of Alien Invasion as a possible human extiction event. And these 2 movies in particular freaked me out the most in regards to this.

Titan A.E. and Steven Speilberg's War of the Worlds. And what both of these movies share in common is just how the Aliens in question treat humanity with absolutely no mercy and no symphathy. Its these movies in question that kinda hit home the idea that Humanity is not the center of the universe. I mean these scenes in particular hit home:



Titan A.E. in particular is strongest because despite the fact that we are already a space faring and colonizing race in that film, we are still not the center of the universe and some Alien forces would still overpower us and show us no mercy.

All I can say is, I am amazed I didn't get too messed up in the head watching these movies.

 

[Hawki]

And what both of these movies share in common is just how the Aliens in question treat humanity with absolutely no mercy and no symphathy.

Isn't that true of pretty much every alien invasion movie ever made?

Also, Titan A.E. doesn't really fit in with "humans aren't the centre of the universe," because in Titan A.E., they kinda are, at least in the sense that it utilizes the "humans are special" trope.

 

[Saelune]

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

Hell, even Mass Effect made no sense, I mean the Turians should have known better and realized humans didn't know what the hell they were doing. Not like humans were the first other species they ever met, you'd think there would be protocol, ala Star Trek.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

And what both of these movies share in common is just how the Aliens in question treat humanity with absolutely no mercy and no symphathy.

Isn't that true of pretty much every alien invasion movie ever made?

Also, Titan A.E. doesn't really fit in with "humans aren't the centre of the universe," because in Titan A.E., they kinda are, at least in the sense that it utilizes the "humans are special" trope.

The Humans are Special trope in Titan A.E. is the reason why the Drej brought humanity to near extinction.

Incase anyone forgets the reason why all this happened was because Humanity has created a machine that essentially creates whole planets from scratch, hence the Titan project. Appearently this is something no one else has even accomplish in the universe and that is what the Drej feared about Humans.

So even at that moment of humanity becoming the center of the universe, the Aliens denied it, and they denied it HARD. Its also implied they assaulted various planet colonies of humanity because if it was just Earth it would not be that devestating for a planet colonizing race.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

 

[Saelune]

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

The same reason humans need clothes, for protection, comfort, and self-expression.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

The same reason humans need clothes, for protection, comfort, and self-expression.

Are you saying that even a Bigfoot like race of humanoids, covered completely from head to toe in thick fur, would still need clothes?

 

[Saelune]

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

The same reason humans need clothes, for protection, comfort, and self-expression.

Are you saying that even a Bigfoot like race of humanoids, covered completely from head to toe in thick fur, would still need clothes?

I am saying that aliens that achieve space faring technology are probably going to be more like us than not. Clothing provides plenty of use. Even Chewbacca had a belt.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

Because arguably they developed on a terrestrial sphere like us and thus would need some protection from exposure to foreign ecosystems and, atmosphere, vacuum, or radiation? And clothing fits that bill nicely...

Plus arguably civilization requires gregarious pack animals, and clothing is the easiest, most immediate way to determine rank and social standing ala things like military uniforms. Assuming they have concepts of meritocracies. Also one could make the argument that culture and artistry is a fundamental aspect of creativity and thus fashion may be a natural extension of that.

So for an alien species actually liable to wish contact with humanity, it might simply be for cultural exchange ... because money or resources are hardly relevant, but a preoccupation with artistry might be the compulsion to make contact. And in such a hypothetical society, one might assume artistry might drive them to experiment with personal expression through things like fashion.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

As far as aliens go, growing up I was terrified of xenomorphs and the predator. I believe I was 7 when I saw my aunt's sci-fi VHS tapes, and some years later I'd watch Alien Resurrection in theathers, which now just seems like goofy movie, but for kid me, the scene with the Ripley clones or whatever they were, can't remember, yeah that was horrifying, and the way that fucking alien died too, jesus...

Yeah just went and rewatched it, that death is still gross. It sucks I don't get this feeling anymore watching horror movies.

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

Hell, even Mass Effect made no sense, I mean the Turians should have known better and realized humans didn't know what the hell they were doing. Not like humans were the first other species they ever met, you'd think there would be protocol, ala Star Trek.

But... then the movie doesn't happen. That's why I like the aliens in Childhood's End. I mean, humanity still loses, but the way it happens is more satisfying than BAD ALIENS KILL MEN FOR REASONS. Speaking of which, that new predator movie looks terrible...

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

You are trying to apply human logic to COMPLETELY FOREIGN AND NON-HUMAN ALIENS.

What makes you think certain intellegent alien species would need clothes?

Because arguably they developed on a terrestrial sphere like us and thus would need some protection from exposure to foreign ecosystems and, atmosphere, vacuum, or radiation? And clothing fits that bill nicely...

Plus arguably civilization requires gregarious pack animals, and clothing is the easiest, most immediate way to determine rank and social standing ala military uniforms.

Who's to say they would be a bipedal race with limbs used as arms in the first place?

In the War of the Worlds book, the Aliens were these octopus looking creatures:

 

[Pyrian]

It's pretty easy to imagine an alien culture that has invented and used clothing where appropriate but doesn't bother with it when it's patently unnecessary the way we (mostly) do.


I'm a little baffled at the "evil aliens are mostly mindless monsters" idea, though. Certainly the examples cited above aren't. In fact, the only examples I can think of are where the "grunts" are mostly mindless but their masters aren't - and those are still the exception, not the rule.

 

[Saelune]

As far as aliens go, growing up I was terrified of xenomorphs and the predator. I believe I was 7 when I saw my aunt's sci-fi VHS tapes, and some years later I'd watch Alien Resurrection in theathers, which now just seems like goofy movie, but for kid me, the scene with the Ripley clones or whatever they were, can't remember, yeah that was horrifying, and the way that fucking alien died too, jesus...

Yeah just went and rewatched it, that death is still gross. It sucks I don't get this feeling anymore watching horror movies.

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

Hell, even Mass Effect made no sense, I mean the Turians should have known better and realized humans didn't know what the hell they were doing. Not like humans were the first other species they ever met, you'd think there would be protocol, ala Star Trek.

But... then the movie doesn't happen. That's why I like the aliens in Childhood's End. I mean, humanity still loses, but the way it happens is more satisfying than BAD ALIENS KILL MEN FOR REASONS. Speaking of which, that new predator movie looks terrible...

They should make a movie where they go to the Predators home planet and see the civilization of NOT HUNTERS living there. I mean, imagine the farmers, builders, scientists, teachers, just regular families raising their kids, etc that have to exist for a society to reach space travel.

 

[Hawki]

The Humans are Special trope in Titan A.E. is the reason why the Drej brought humanity to near extinction.

Um, yes, I know - that's my point. Said point being that War of the Worlds and Titan A.E. don't belong in same realm of alien invasion movies. In the former, aliens invade because they want Earth, and humanity is just a pest that gets in the way. In Titan A.E., the drej attack humanity because (long story that's mainly in the novelization short) they developed the Titan. Different motives, different styles of film.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

The Humans are Special trope in Titan A.E. is the reason why the Drej brought humanity to near extinction.

Um, yes, I know - that's my point. Said point being that War of the Worlds and Titan A.E. don't belong in same realm of alien invasion movies. In the former, aliens invade because they want Earth, and humanity is just a pest that gets in the way. In Titan A.E., the drej attack humanity because (long story that's mainly in the novelization short) they developed the Titan. Different motives, different styles of film.

But again the result is more or less the same, Humanity is now on the brink by Alien forces more powerful and intellegent then we are.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Who's to say they would be a bipedal race with limbs used as arms in the first place?

If they're basically from an aquatic world, they'll definitely need space suits coming to Earth. If only to maintain a breathable environment and suitable comfortable pressure.

Plus, you know ... the aliens in WotW died precisely because they didn't wear (suitable) clothing ...

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Who's to say they would be a bipedal race with limbs used as arms in the first place?

If they're basically from an aquatic world, they'll definitely need space suits coming to Earth. If only to maintain a breathable environment and suitable comfortable pressure.

Plus, you know ... the aliens in WotW died precisely because they didn't wear clothing ...

Hmm when you think about it, the Orcs from Warcraft are from another world entirely and had to invade Azeroth via portals.

Yet none died to the native germs inhabiting Azeroth

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Hmm when you think about it, the Orcs from Warcraft are from another world entirely and had to invade Azeroth via portals.

Yet none died to the native germs inhabiting Azeroth

Right, but fantasy is fantasy, and the idea of alien invaders invading Earth without clothing is something different.

Clothing just makes sense. Even if you'rea super-advanced race, clothing brings utility. It allows you to store tools, determine social standing, protection from hazards, and an outlet for creativity and self-expression.

Even if an alien race manages to do without some of that it's hard to imagine they can do awaywith all of that.

Particularly if they have managed to achieve interstellar society.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

As far as aliens go, growing up I was terrified of xenomorphs and the predator. I believe I was 7 when I saw my aunt's sci-fi VHS tapes, and some years later I'd watch Alien Resurrection in theathers, which now just seems like goofy movie, but for kid me, the scene with the Ripley clones or whatever they were, can't remember, yeah that was horrifying, and the way that fucking alien died too, jesus...

Yeah just went and rewatched it, that death is still gross. It sucks I don't get this feeling anymore watching horror movies.

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

Hell, even Mass Effect made no sense, I mean the Turians should have known better and realized humans didn't know what the hell they were doing. Not like humans were the first other species they ever met, you'd think there would be protocol, ala Star Trek.

But... then the movie doesn't happen. That's why I like the aliens in Childhood's End. I mean, humanity still loses, but the way it happens is more satisfying than BAD ALIENS KILL MEN FOR REASONS. Speaking of which, that new predator movie looks terrible...

They should make a movie where they go to the Predators home planet and see the civilization of NOT HUNTERS living there. I mean, imagine the farmers, builders, scientists, teachers, just regular families raising their kids, etc that have to exist for a society to reach space travel.

Aren't they all hunters to some degree? Like they need to hunt/kill, it's their rite of passage into adulthood or something. I'd watch that. Humans go to their planet to kill them because... revenge, they killed the protagonist's mother, I don't know I'm not a writer. I just did some googling and there's even a sexy human lady predator [http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Machiko_Noguchi], and she's japanese, just get Scarlett Joh...

 

[Saelune]

As far as aliens go, growing up I was terrified of xenomorphs and the predator. I believe I was 7 when I saw my aunt's sci-fi VHS tapes, and some years later I'd watch Alien Resurrection in theathers, which now just seems like goofy movie, but for kid me, the scene with the Ripley clones or whatever they were, can't remember, yeah that was horrifying, and the way that fucking alien died too, jesus...

Yeah just went and rewatched it, that death is still gross. It sucks I don't get this feeling anymore watching horror movies.

The problem is, most evil aliens don't make sense, cause they master intergalactic travel, but are mindless bloodsucking monsters who don't wear clothes?

Hell, even Mass Effect made no sense, I mean the Turians should have known better and realized humans didn't know what the hell they were doing. Not like humans were the first other species they ever met, you'd think there would be protocol, ala Star Trek.

But... then the movie doesn't happen. That's why I like the aliens in Childhood's End. I mean, humanity still loses, but the way it happens is more satisfying than BAD ALIENS KILL MEN FOR REASONS. Speaking of which, that new predator movie looks terrible...

They should make a movie where they go to the Predators home planet and see the civilization of NOT HUNTERS living there. I mean, imagine the farmers, builders, scientists, teachers, just regular families raising their kids, etc that have to exist for a society to reach space travel.

Aren't they all hunters to some degree? Like they need to hunt/kill, it's their rite of passage into adulthood or something. I'd watch that. Humans go to their planet to kill them because... revenge, they killed the protagonist's mother, I don't know I'm not a writer. I just did some googling and there's even a sexy human lady predator [http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Machiko_Noguchi], and she's japanese, just get Scarlett Joh...

I mean, how do we even know (maybe they addressed this, I don't watch the movies) that their ENTIRE SPECIES are hunters? For all we know, they are a bunch of hick yokel hunters, and the rest of their society looks down on them as they go around killing other species? We aren't all whale hunters or deer hunters on Earth, but that might be all some whales or deer ever experience of humans.