Halo: ODST or 20 dollars an hour

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RentCavalier

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I remember when I wrote my last Halo review, and it was Halo 3 and it made many people upset.
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Yeah, so, ODST.
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Halo ODST is an overpriced expansion that offers nothing new or innovative. What it does offer, however, is placed in an excellent package, with great pacing, intense combat, and ever-addictive multiplayer.

Since nobody cares about Halo's single player--oh wait nevermind. So, Halo's much-lauded single player modes have often been the series' premiere selling point, at least until Halo 2. Halo 3's single-player was a haphazard smash-up of a dozen cliches smeared over the toasted carcass of good level design and good pacing. ODST's single player is as lite and unfulfilling, but it does return to form with a decently-told story with likable characters, something Halos 1 and 2 were good for.

Halo: ODST sticks to the story of the Orbital Drop Shock Troopers--those redshirts who took slightly longer to die in Halo 2, the ones who drop out of spaceships in giant eggs in a manner akin to being shat out by a colossal metal barracuda and are supposedly bad-ass because of this. Seriously, these guys are triumphed as the best of the best, yet possess no particular distinction besides cooler armor and a more impressive means to make an entrance. Yes, I do feel like a spectacular bad-ass when I'm chewing through Wraiths with a Spartan Laser like a rapist through a teenager girls cheerleader uniform, but I've ALWAYS felt that way when I play Halo. It's not a particularly new feeling.

However, because you aren't "John Spartan"--or indeed, anything more spectacular than a mild-mannered rookie--your ability to absorb damage is significantly lessened. The typical Halo strategy of rushing into engagements guns akimbo, grenades sailing through the air like Easter Eggs from hell, doesn't work here. You no longer stand toe-to-toe with your myriad foes. Rather, they are a wall of opposition that can only be chewed through with slow, purposeful precision. You have no shield and no regenerating health, you take hits like a *****, you can't dual-wield or hijack vehicles...basically, you are reduced to the exact same mechanics as Halo 1, which goes to show how much the series has changed since then.

Your team mates are relatively interesting, though all are such shallow stock characters with little depth or motivation. There's some cliched love story subplot and all that jazz, but it's basically Halo cutscenes but with less aliens or Spartans and more...Nathan Fillon and a bunch of other people. It's nice, I guess, to get a wider viewpoint on the conflict, see how the "regular joes" handle a war that has neccessitated super-human soldiers for victory, but honestly, they don't DO anything with it. Their "unique" perspective--as the bit players in a greater war--only proves to showcase just how awesome Spartans are, and does little to examine the human aspect of warfare, nor delve into the issues or philosophies behind replacing expressive, emotion humans with blank-faced, monotonic supermen.

However, as in all Halos, the failings of the single-player are trumped by the successes of multiplayer. Halo has been a series that has always been on the cutting edge of innovating the newest and biggest multiplayer trends, and this one is no chump in that category, as this barrier-pushing, front-end game series presents...a cut and paste knock-off of Gears 2's Horde mode, but with a SCORE system. Actually, getting points for shit is a nice way to keep us playing, as the new "firefight" mode would be pretty repetative and dull without any sort of "goal". It is never-ending and the fights tend to blur into a very inflexible pattern. You'll use the same four guns, deal with the same five enemies, and while no encounter is ever unchallenging--you'll see first hand just how dangerous those bullet-soaking Grunts can be when they rain plasma death on you from above--it does seem strangely lazy on Bungie's part.

In fact, the whole game is light. The single-player brings nothing new to the table (even with its AMAZING soundtrack), and the narrative's sole saving grace is the optional side-story you can find around the "open-ended" hub world, which lets you listen to the ever-engaging story of a girl making her way through New Mombasa as it is first invaded. The multiplayer is Gears with a shittier engine, and the whole concept--of being a "vulnerable" character in Halo--falls completely flat. Halo's engine doesn't lend itself to careful run and gun mayhem like Call of Duty or intense, cover-chewing shootouts like Gears of War. Crouching is difficult, as it requires you hold down the stick at all times, the few scoped weapons you find are useful, but the plethora of useless Brute pistols and assault rifles make things even more difficult. When you could pick up the biggest, baddest shit and run rampant in a stream of destruction, Halo shined the brightest, unifying old-school kill-crazy gameplay with modern mechanics and A.I. As it stands, ODST is just a poor man's Call of Duty with more aliens and a far, far inferior plot.

Rent it for a fun, drunken weekend, and then forget about it almost immediately.
 

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Not a horrible review however you can in fact hijack vehicles. I liked the fact it brought back the halo 1 formula. It makes a firefight where you are close to death that much more exhilirating. Everyone has their opinion however and like I said its not a bad review. However you have to look at what ODST is. True it is a short campaing but a lot of heart has been put into it even if it is a pretty generic run to one area fight enemy then bunker down and shoot a few waves of enemies. On top of that you get all the maps for halo 3 thus far and I do believe 3 new ones.

I can see where your coming from and I agree whole heartedly but then again I had almost no expectations for it but in the end it came through giving it a small place in my heart as a look back to what I used to like about Halo. Maybe it is nostalgia to all the fun I had in halo 1 and then how they systematically killed everything I liked about it in sequals. I wouldnt mind a more in depth view on the more generic soldier life because really you could have just slapped another name on it and no one would really know it was a halo game. However it is and you have to give it to Bungie that they know how to polish something to a mirror sheen.
 

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I just hated it.

Good review too. If I were to review it, it would just consist of "It's Rubbish" copied and pasted a few hundred times.
 
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I personally thought the game was great, it was short but it left you wanting more rather than wishing it would end and firefight is a great little multiplayer mode.
 

slayer542

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ODST was an amazing game with great gameplay, characters and weapons. The campaign was epic and extremely fun. Firefight is also very fun and addicting.

ODST is also a GOOD VALUE. It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.

Anyone that just rents it and forgets about it is a fucking idiot.
 

NoriYuki Sato

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i didn't mind the campaign, ((even though after awhile it was just going through the motions of the first 2 levels)) however, Bungie made it seem like Firefight was the new multiplayer rather than Horde redesigned, and actually..you can switch crouch from hold to click as in every Halo game =D
 

NoriYuki Sato

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slayer542 said:
It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.
REACH beta for january of next year..and all the maps including the ones everybody threw money into...which pissed me the hell off, because i spent money on Bungie, i get repayed with 3 new maps, and all of the ones i bought on one disc...Bungie is simply notorious for pissing people off..thats all there is too it...aka Halo 3 campaign..and Firefight instead of multiplayer ((firefight gets old fast))

*EDIT*

sorry for the double post

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slayer542 said:
ODST was an amazing game with great gameplay, characters and weapons. The campaign was epic and extremely fun. Firefight is also very fun and addicting.

ODST is also a GOOD VALUE. It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.

Anyone that just rents it and forgets about it is a fucking idiot.
So did you get your halo fanboy t-shirt online or at a store?

OT: I haven't played it, not having a 360 but my friend (who plays far too much halo) said that it was nothing extraordinary and that the new modes (although fun to begin with) quickly lost his interest.
 

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The_Healer said:
slayer542 said:
ODST was an amazing game with great gameplay, characters and weapons. The campaign was epic and extremely fun. Firefight is also very fun and addicting.

ODST is also a GOOD VALUE. It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.

Anyone that just rents it and forgets about it is a fucking idiot.
So did you get your halo fanboy t-shirt online or at a store?

OT: I haven't played it, not having a 360 but my friend (who plays far too much halo) said that it was nothing extraordinary and that the new modes (although fun to begin with) quickly lost his interest.
I not a fan boy. I'm just a normal fan that got pissed off by hearing this bullshit.
 

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NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.
REACH beta for january of next year..and all the maps including the ones everybody threw money into...which pissed me the hell off, because i spent money on Bungie, i get repayed with 3 new maps, and all of the ones i bought on one disc...Bungie is simply notorious for pissing people off..thats all there is too it...aka Halo 3 campaign..and Firefight instead of multiplayer ((firefight gets old fast))

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sorry for the double post

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You got the privilege of using the maps for long enough. I bought them when they came out and got to use them in playlist for months and that's good for 10$ worth of DLC.

Besides, are you saying that it would have been better if ODST wouldn't have come with the maps? Anyone that complains is a cheap bastard.
 

NoriYuki Sato

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slayer542 said:
NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.
REACH beta for january of next year..and all the maps including the ones everybody threw money into...which pissed me the hell off, because i spent money on Bungie, i get repayed with 3 new maps, and all of the ones i bought on one disc...Bungie is simply notorious for pissing people off..thats all there is too it...aka Halo 3 campaign..and Firefight instead of multiplayer ((firefight gets old fast))

*EDIT*

sorry for the double post

*EDIT*
You got the privilege of using the maps for long enough. I bought them when they came out and got to use them in playlist for months and that's good for 10$ worth of DLC.

Besides, are you saying that it would have been better if ODST wouldn't have come with the maps? Anyone that complains is a cheap bastard.
i never said don't give us the maps..and people who complain are simply sick of Bungie ripping them off..Hlao 3 was a rip-off for people who enojy good campaigns, ODST was a rip-off for people who hate simply going through the motions after the second level...and for people who like new multiplayer modes...Firefight pissed people off, and spending all those points/money for maps that everybody now has simply for buying ODST...are pissed because they pumped money to Bungie for a few extra months of new maps...Bungie has been ripping people off for awhile now, and it's time people realize that...which is why i'm glad Bungie is pretty much done with Halo...800 points per map pack...that's $10 per pack...Heroic, Legendary, Mythic..$30 aka half the price of ODST...you buy the maps for Halo 3...then buy a $30 game with them..and as a bonus you get 3 more maps....it's BS and everybody knows it


now that i've ranted..ODST has a great story behind it, a great new concept for a story, it just gets a little tiring and old after a little while...the only thing good about ODST is the story and concept..no multiplayer..a crappy version of Horde ((not to say Horde was good)) and a very repetative level structure and gameplay...however..the story is still amazing, as is the concept...

mainly i just hate Bungie for being total douchebags to all of the Halo fans these past few years nd ripping them off...the need to make a multiplayer for ODST and make it either half price..or free...and have REACH come out at $40-$50 tops..that i think will make up for them being douchebags these past few years who only want more money
 

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RentCavalier said:
Yes, I do feel like a spectacular bad-ass when I'm chewing through Wraiths with a Spartan Laser like a rapist through a teenager girls cheerleader uniform.
if yahtzee reviews this he should really use that as one of his metaphors.

anyway good review a little too much of you hatred is showing as its not the worst game ever.
 

slayer542

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NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.
REACH beta for january of next year..and all the maps including the ones everybody threw money into...which pissed me the hell off, because i spent money on Bungie, i get repayed with 3 new maps, and all of the ones i bought on one disc...Bungie is simply notorious for pissing people off..thats all there is too it...aka Halo 3 campaign..and Firefight instead of multiplayer ((firefight gets old fast))

*EDIT*

sorry for the double post

*EDIT*
You got the privilege of using the maps for long enough. I bought them when they came out and got to use them in playlist for months and that's good for 10$ worth of DLC.

Besides, are you saying that it would have been better if ODST wouldn't have come with the maps? Anyone that complains is a cheap bastard.
i never said don't give us the maps..and people who complain are simply sick of Bungie ripping them off..Hlao 3 was a rip-off for people who enojy good campaigns, ODST was a rip-off for people who hate simply going through the motions after the second level...and for people who like new multiplayer modes...Firefight pissed people off, and spending all those points/money for maps that everybody now has simply for buying ODST...are pissed because they pumped money to Bungie for a few extra months of new maps...Bungie has been ripping people off for awhile now, and it's time people realize that...which is why i'm glad Bungie is pretty much done with Halo...800 points per map pack...that's $10 per pack...Heroic, Legendary, Mythic..$30 aka half the price of ODST...you buy the maps for Halo 3...then buy a $30 game with them..and as a bonus you get 3 more maps....it's BS and everybody knows it


now that i've ranted..ODST has a great story behind it, a great new concept for a story, it just gets a little tiring and old after a little while...the only thing good about ODST is the story and concept..no multiplayer..a crappy version of Horde ((not to say Horde was good)) and a very repetative level structure and gameplay...however..the story is still amazing, as is the concept...

mainly i just hate Bungie for being total douchebags to all of the Halo fans these past few years nd ripping them off...the need to make a multiplayer for ODST and make it either half price..or free...and have REACH come out at $40-$50 tops..that i think will make up for them being douchebags these past few years who only want more money
Microsoft decides all the prices not Bungie. Reach is a FULL and completely redesigned game that will sell at the usual 70-74$. Nobody better say shit about that price because Reach is all new.
 

PureChaos

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enough with ODST threads. granted it's a review rather than some stupid question but, still, enough's enough
 

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Good review, I guess, just going on what everyone else is saying with ODST, didnt buy it as a stopped caring about bungie after Halo 3's saga of dissapointment

To fully gauge the review, read it as if Yahtzee was saying it, think we may have a young protege on our hands here, but not yet
 

NoriYuki Sato

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slayer542 said:
NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
NoriYuki Sato said:
slayer542 said:
It comes with 2 discs that includes the following: New campaign, Firefight, theater, forge, custom games and ALL the multiplayer maps with 3 NEW ones. It also has the REACH beta.
REACH beta for january of next year..and all the maps including the ones everybody threw money into...which pissed me the hell off, because i spent money on Bungie, i get repayed with 3 new maps, and all of the ones i bought on one disc...Bungie is simply notorious for pissing people off..thats all there is too it...aka Halo 3 campaign..and Firefight instead of multiplayer ((firefight gets old fast))

*EDIT*

sorry for the double post

*EDIT*
You got the privilege of using the maps for long enough. I bought them when they came out and got to use them in playlist for months and that's good for 10$ worth of DLC.

Besides, are you saying that it would have been better if ODST wouldn't have come with the maps? Anyone that complains is a cheap bastard.
i never said don't give us the maps..and people who complain are simply sick of Bungie ripping them off..Hlao 3 was a rip-off for people who enojy good campaigns, ODST was a rip-off for people who hate simply going through the motions after the second level...and for people who like new multiplayer modes...Firefight pissed people off, and spending all those points/money for maps that everybody now has simply for buying ODST...are pissed because they pumped money to Bungie for a few extra months of new maps...Bungie has been ripping people off for awhile now, and it's time people realize that...which is why i'm glad Bungie is pretty much done with Halo...800 points per map pack...that's $10 per pack...Heroic, Legendary, Mythic..$30 aka half the price of ODST...you buy the maps for Halo 3...then buy a $30 game with them..and as a bonus you get 3 more maps....it's BS and everybody knows it


now that i've ranted..ODST has a great story behind it, a great new concept for a story, it just gets a little tiring and old after a little while...the only thing good about ODST is the story and concept..no multiplayer..a crappy version of Horde ((not to say Horde was good)) and a very repetative level structure and gameplay...however..the story is still amazing, as is the concept...

mainly i just hate Bungie for being total douchebags to all of the Halo fans these past few years nd ripping them off...the need to make a multiplayer for ODST and make it either half price..or free...and have REACH come out at $40-$50 tops..that i think will make up for them being douchebags these past few years who only want more money
Microsoft decides all the prices not Bungie. Reach is a FULL and completely redesigned game that will sell at the usual 70-74$. Nobody better say shit about that price because Reach is all new.
$70-74? you in canadia or something? yes, canadia, not canada, besides..Shellshock 2 and Eat Lead were all new and came out $10 cheaper than any new game ((great games btw))
 

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slayer542 said:
Anyone that just rents it and forgets about it is a fucking idiot.
Wait, so people who disagree with you about liking this game are fucking idiots? Or am I interpreting this wrong?