Hard work pays off?

[tthor]

Just recently I came to realize, I've never believed in the concept of 'hard work pays off'. Now, I am a quite intelligent person, to the point where I was always the person who could pay absolutely no attention to half the class, yet still ace all the tests. But I think this fact may have simply caused me to have little motivation to actually 'TRY' to succeed, because I've always just 'got it', now I just kinda feel under the idea that either you succeed in something or you don't, and most actual effort put into trying to succeed will only have a negligible effect. So never once have I tried or learned something that I found initially difficult, because I just feel like "well if I'm not good at it now, a lot of practicing probably won't make a huge difference.."

I'm beginning to see that this is probably a harmful mindset for me to have. I would like to learn another language, I would like to learn little skills, etc. So, for discussion value, as well as some encouragement for me, what is something for you that started out really difficult, but that you got really good at through practice?

EDIT: Lol i probably should have said long ago that I wasn't necessarily refering to the workplace, i was more refering to learning a new skill etc. but the discussion is interesting nonetheless

 

[Insanum]

No, you're in school. Trust me when you're out in the real world, hard work can pay off.

Take it from a guy who used to work 60 hour weeks.

 

[Kathinka]

it can, but it doesn't have to. know the right people, kiss the right asses, and you can do better than someone who busts his honest ass with the hardest work.

take it from a girl who works less than 10 hours a week^^

 

[tthor]

No, you're in school. Trust me when you're out in the real world, hard work can pay off.

Take it from a guy who used to work 60 hour weeks.

Well, I'm in college now (tho i gues that is still school,)

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

Work smart, not hard.

 

[Fishyash]

Yeah it does pay off, I think it starts mattering at college, where the work you put in will directly relate to how much you get from being there.

Also, I may have 'gotten it' when I started playing piano but I never got to the level I am now without working hard in high school. If you have a talent for something it's a very good idea to work on it, otherwise it will just stay as unfufilled potential.

Yeah, talent helps but hard work will definately be the deciding factor of how well you will improve.

it can, but it doesn't have to. know the right people, kiss the right asses, and you can do better than someone who busts his honest ass with the hardest work.

take it from a girl who works less than 10 hours a week^^

Also this, knowing people is very good for you...

 

[Hagi]

it can, but it doesn't have to. know the right people, kiss the right asses, and you can do better than someone who busts his honest ass with the hardest work.

take it from a girl who works less than 10 hours a week^^

Hard work still pays off. It's just not your hard work that's paying you off, but somebody else's.

One should either make sure that the pay-off for their hard work ends up with them or, if one doesn't mind some moral ambiguity, make sure the pay-off for someone else's hard work ends up with them.

 

[Radeonx]

No, you're in school. Trust me when you're out in the real world, hard work can pay off.

Take it from a guy who used to work 60 hour weeks.

Well, I'm in college now (tho i gues that is still school,)

The working world is absolutely nothing like college.
I just graduated, and everything I do now was not similar at all to my college classes.

 

[HyRock]

Well during my school years from bout 5'th to 9'th grade I was a real slacker but I was not dumb kid I was just lazy. So when I graduated my average rating was 3.2 on a 5 point scale. now thats bad and i got it cuz even when i was @school my marks were mostly 4 & 5 but since it didnt hapen I had a lots and lots of X'es also and those dragged my average down..

So when I had to choos waht to do after the ninth grade I didn't have lots of options since no gymnasium would have me so I had to go to a vocational school..

And now here I'm busting my ass off as a cook on a cruize ship for a measly ~800 euros per month and thinkin' I could be so much more had I just worked harder in school..

 

[Kathinka]

it can, but it doesn't have to. know the right people, kiss the right asses, and you can do better than someone who busts his honest ass with the hardest work.

take it from a girl who works less than 10 hours a week^^

Hard work still pays off. It's just not your hard work that's paying you off, but somebody else's.

One should either make sure that the pay-off for their hard work ends up with them or, if one doesn't mind some moral ambiguity, make sure the pay-off for someone else's hard work ends up with them.

also not neccessarely. there is not always hard work involved, by no one. i don't have any workers under me, i'm an artisan with a one-person-company.

most people don't want to hear it, but hard work doesn't always pay. it doesn't do any harm, sure. but it doesnt neccessarely help. the world simply isn't fair. it mostly comes down to luck.

 

[ShakyFt Slasher]

If you ever got a job you would realize this philosophy is %100 true. Anyone; smart or stupid, will never get promoted if they don't try at their workplace.

 

[Comando96]

No, you're in school. Trust me when you're out in the real world, hard work can pay off.

Take it from a guy who used to work 60 hour weeks.

Well, I'm in college now (tho i gues that is still school,)

College is about 3 things. 1 of them stupid.

1) Getting pretty badges for your Curriculum vitae.
2) Making friends (and business connections for later life)
3) Drinking, partying, independence etc etc

The pretty little badges get you into an interview... they do not guarantee a job. If you are to go far in any career then hard work will probably be the key.

If you are so awesomely intelligent that you don't need to work hard, you will be strolling along, instead of being incredibly successful.

Standardized testing is pretty much the route cause for your success up until now and, fuck it.

*posts video*


Thriving throughout standardized testing does not mean you will thrive through the rest of your life.

 

[PureChaos]

trying and effort can help but from my experience it tends to be who you know rather than what you know

 

[Kopikatsu]

Hard work isn't worth it. Especially if it ends up making you alot of money, because you might have a great deal of money, you've also made many, many many enemies.

Mediocrity is the spice of life.

 

[Hagi]

it can, but it doesn't have to. know the right people, kiss the right asses, and you can do better than someone who busts his honest ass with the hardest work.

take it from a girl who works less than 10 hours a week^^

Hard work still pays off. It's just not your hard work that's paying you off, but somebody else's.

One should either make sure that the pay-off for their hard work ends up with them or, if one doesn't mind some moral ambiguity, make sure the pay-off for someone else's hard work ends up with them.

also not neccessarely. there is not always hard work involved, by no one. i don't have any workers under me, i'm an artisan with a one-person-company.

most people don't want to hear it, but hard work doesn't always pay. it doesn't do any harm, sure. but it doesnt neccessarely help. the world simply isn't fair. it mostly comes down to luck.

Quite necessarily, that's what most modern economies are based on: a direct relation between one's contribution to production (be it capital, labor, natural resources etc.) and one's monetary gain.

'ass-kissing' and knowing people aren't factors of production and as such aren't 'supposed' (in a fair world that is...) to have a monetary gain associated to them. Any monetary gain that does come from them is thus necessarily diverted from another's contribution to production.

But as you say, the world isn't fair. I personally don't mind at all how you earn your money, I'm more concerned about how I'll earn my own. But while I wouldn't say that knowing people and profiting from that is necessarily bad it's definitely in the morally ambiguous territory.

 

[RADlTZ]

Ninja Gaiden on xbox. By the time I'd finnished the blimp level, the game started to get brutally hard, no other games that I'd played back then threw up such a challenge. But, it was an awesome game so I stuck to it and pretty soon I learnt how to make Ryu Hayabusa dance, and none of the enemies could touch my ninja behind!

 

[Giest4life]

If you are in college, either you are taking community college or you are in intro level courses at your school because both of them are utter tripe. It will get harder, much harder.

Hard work for the sake of hard work is what sheep do. Don't do that. Nothing which is worthwhile was ever accomplished without hard work. Even if you want to con people out of their money, you still need to work hard to be an excellent con artist to amass your wealth.

 

[JochemDude]

Leading pays off, following doesn't.

 

[skizoman333]

hrd work does pay off, an almost anyone succesful has had to put in more than a few all nighters (there are ppl who get an easy ride, but they are in the minority)

Im a lot like you...smart but lazy. this qoute from calvin coolidge does make me push myself however

"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."