Has Conversation Died?

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Riku'sTwilight

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With various forms of social media around us, let alone with text messaging, Blackberry Messenger, and all of the other free insta-chat apps for numerous devices available I wanted to ask the question has conversation (albeit at least over the internet) died?

I'll touch upon face to face conversations too, but my main focus will be over social media.

An example - I recently messaged someone I went to school with, someone who I haven't spoken to, or physically seen in at least 5 years. I simply asked how they were doing, and what they had been up to all this time. They answered my questions, then immediately followed it up with 'Why are you messaging me?' as if it was a crime to want to talk to someone.

Admittedly, they were hungover at the time so I left them to sleep and then the following day I messaged them again, explaining why I had messaged them out of the blue (it was just because I was reminiscing with a friend about our school days and the person I messaged popped into my head)

I sent the message, following into a question to continue the conversation, it was read by the person and then zero reply, even now - days later I've had no reply.
While I understand people are busy, and I'd account for that but some indication that they didn't want to carry on the conversation, apart from blatantly and rudely ignoring me would be nice.

I could give other examples of times when I've messaged people and they have given short, sharp, one sentence replies to questions which responses should and could be fleshed out but that would take too long and this would turn into an even bigger wall of text than it already is.

As stated above, I will hint on face-to-face conversation. I don't think this is dying in as much as you can't just not talk to people face to face, but I do think a lot of people are becoming bad at it, uninterested by what others have to say and only caring about your own opinion or statements.

So, has anyone else experienced this while being online? Has conversation, and by extension - our conversational skills died?
 

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With certain people, I suppose so. I mean, I've had 50 message+ long conversations with a few people here, and others that have lasted only a few replies. Some people are just hard to hold a conversation with. Overall though, I can see where you're coming from. I've gotten similar responses to you when trying to see how old friends are doing, and to be honest I find it pretty depressing.
 

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Some people are just rude and stuck up their own arses.
I found a lot of people I went to school with who seemed to like me couldn't actually stand me, which could be another reason. I only have about 25 people on my friends list from school because the others I either didn't like, didn't talk to, or they didn't like me.
I rarely add people online because I know how two-faced some can be in real life. If they want to be my friend, they can add me.

Don't take it to heart, some people just can't think up long replies. I know when most people ask me "So, what have you been up to?"I reply "nothing much" because it's true. My life is so boring I barely do anything, I have to resort to telling them about the new dress I bought I something.


My favourite thing is seeing two people together, sat opposite each other in an eating establishment or similar with their heads down and on their phones. Gives me a chuckle.
 

Seydaman

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Eh, I tend to unconciously end conversations for some bizarre reason, my mind seems to hate socialization. But I do have that happen sometimes, where you get sort of stonewalled, move on I suppose.
 

Guffe

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Serious?
I chat over Facebook with old pals every now and then and this has never happened.
I mean some are chattier than others but I've never been rejected, or rejected myself the opportunity to chat to people I've known or shared a classroom with.
 

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In the example you gave, how did you contact your old friend? Some chatting methods seem to lend themselves to casually striking up conversations with people you haven't talked to in ages more so than others. Like Facebook, for example. And I have no idea if anyone still uses this, but AIM chat used to be a pretty good way to contact old friends.

If it was a text message on the phone, I wonder if maybe you didn't alarm the person a bit. My first thought if someone texted me out of the blue would be one of surprise, and I might wonder if something terrible had happened to someone I knew and I was about to receive some bad news, or if I was going to be solicited for some kind of a big favor. Then again, it also depends on how you phrase you greeting, I could also see that being perfectly normal.

I actually just had two instances of catching up with some old friends of mine recently that were super positive. One was when I was home at Christmas time, when I was sitting in the kitchen playing a board game with my mom. Our conversation led to one of my good PA friends who was from China and I used to hang out with all the time, but whom I hadn't talked to since 2008. She encouraged me to try and contact her and see what she's been up to, but I didn't even have her cell number anymore. I went on the computer and found it in an old email from 2005, and sent her a text. A few minutes later, she called me back and was so happy to hear from me! We got breakfast the next day, and got to catch up and hang out before I went back to TX and she went back to the UK where she had been working for the past year.

Also just a few weeks ago, one of my slight acquaintances from high school sent me a friend request on Facebook along with a very nice message about how he read some article that mentioned my name (lol), and thought it was awesome that I work in games now because that's his favorite hobby. We talked a bit on FB, and he reminded me of how I once successfully passed off a painting of Mark Hammill I made for Hamlet for extra credit in an English class, and I told him next time I'm in town visiting, I'll keep in touch and we'll catch up some day.

Anyway, those are my ENCOURAGING STORIES OF POSITIVITY, and I suggest that you don't give up on trying to strike up conversations with people, because you may miss an opportunity to reconnect with a friend if you don't.

When it comes to face-to-face conversation, I've always felt like certain social skills are missing from a lot of people my age and younger. I noticed it long before the internet and cell phones were popular, but I'm sure that hasn't helped. As a kid and a teenager, I always had a much easier time having conversations with my mom's friends and older people than people my age. How many times do I remember being invited over someone's house, only to discover that my friend had invited some of their (non-mutual) friends as well. Then awkwardly try to talk to them as they don't even bother to introduce themselves or include me in a discussion for the next few hours. I dunno, my parents were very clear in teaching me to "include everybody" in conversations and make guests feel welcome and comfortable. I guess not all parents do that now.
 

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I hope not, I kinda like it myself...

That said, sometimes I'm nothing short of difficult to have a conversation with because, apparently, I'm "odd", I "look at things in weird ways", and sometimes I'm not completely on the ball. Despite all that, I've managed to hold down some extremely long online conversations. On one forum it lasted almost a year (still ongoing) and resulted in actually meeting up with someone (and managing to have face to face conversations without a problem).

So, I don't know. Sometimes I get the impression people don't really want to talk. Whenever I get a message, I try for conversation, and more often than not I get half-hearted one liners in reply, if anything at all. I don't do anything weird or scary, I just reply to any questions asked, then ask how the person is doing and what they've been up to. General conversation starters, you know?

I think conversational skills are kinda like muscles, you gotta use 'em to keep them in shape.
 

Riku'sTwilight

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Chemical Alia said:
In the example you gave, how did you contact your old friend? Some chatting methods seem to lend themselves to casually striking up conversations with people you haven't talked to in ages more so than others. Like Facebook, for example. And I have no idea if anyone still uses this, but AIM chat used to be a pretty good way to contact old friends.
I simply messaged them on Facebook. If I have someone's number, they tend to be a closer friend or family member.
This is someone I've not spoken to for years and the only contact info I had was their facebook (I am friends with them on facebook, it's not like I creeped and found them via stalkerish techniques)
 

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I find that my conversations over facebook and my face to face conversations are almost mirrors of each other. For example, if I made a post about something I was interested in on facebook and no one replied, I'd get pretty much the same response if I told someone in person - they'd either say nothing, or they'd say "oh" or something terse along those lines. I try to be, for lack of better terms, the same person on facebook as I am in face to face conversation. I hardly talk/post about things that I'm interested in if I get the feeling that whoever I'm talking to isn't really interested. For example, I'm interested in things like health, martial arts, Five Finger Death Punch, and Mega Man, but I won't talk to most people about those things unless I know that they're also interested.
 

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Riku said:
With various forms of social media around us, let alone with text messaging, Blackberry Messenger, and all of the other free insta-chat apps for numerous devices available I wanted to ask the question has conversation (albeit at least over the internet) died?

I'll touch upon face to face conversations too, but my main focus will be over social media.

An example - I recently messaged someone I went to school with, someone who I haven't spoken to, or physically seen in at least 5 years. I simply asked how they were doing, and what they had been up to all this time. They answered my questions, then immediately followed it up with 'Why are you messaging me?' as if it was a crime to want to talk to someone.

Admittedly, they were hungover at the time so I left them to sleep and then the following day I messaged them again, explaining why I had messaged them out of the blue (it was just because I was reminiscing with a friend about our school days and the person I messaged popped into my head)

I sent the message, following into a question to continue the conversation, it was read by the person and then zero reply, even now - days later I've had no reply.
While I understand people are busy, and I'd account for that but some indication that they didn't want to carry on the conversation, apart from blatantly and rudely ignoring me would be nice.

I could give other examples of times when I've messaged people and they have given short, sharp, one sentence replies to questions which responses should and could be fleshed out but that would take too long and this would turn into an even bigger wall of text than it already is.

As stated above, I will hint on face-to-face conversation. I don't think this is dying in as much as you can't just not talk to people face to face, but I do think a lot of people are becoming bad at it, uninterested by what others have to say and only caring about your own opinion or statements.

So, has anyone else experienced this while being online? Has conversation, and by extension - our conversational skills died?
Have you considered the fact that after 5 years of not talking, maybe this person just doesn't want to talk to you anymore? I mean maybe they don't feel like going over nostalgic stuff, or they have new friends, or you just caught them at a bad time. And about the other people who also gave short responses, maybe you're not as good a friends as you think?

I don't think it means conversation has died, or that people are becoming bad at it. You're probably just talking to the wrong people
 

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I haven't really had this issue at all. I have a couple friends that I went to college with who I see maybe once or twice a year. I chat online with them frequently, however, and the conversations can last for quite awhile. For people that I see somewhat regularly I prefer phone calls if we're not in the same place/area.
 

CrimsonBlaze

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It's sort of a strange two way street in terms of conversations initiated by social media.

Generally, people don't like, or expect for that matter, to be called out or messaged out of the blue. There has to be some reason or cause that merits engaging in any form of conversation. Case in point, whenever they post something on their social media platform of choice (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc.) it is usually because they want to engage in some light conversation or get comments regarding a specific topic.

I personally don't mind speaking with anyone at any time. I don't always make a fuss over every little thing I see or do, and I don't always expect to get a reply from messages I sent or comments that I make ('cus I know that my friends are actually busy).
 

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I'll be honest . I have no idea how to carry a conversation . None whatsoever . And my speechcraft skill drops 20 points if the person i'm talking to is female . Is conversations dead? I don't know , but I am sure i'm not helping disprove that idea . I'm Asocial and hate talking to people , even ones i know.
 

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Right now I have a group of friends that spans Australia and each night through each of us messaging each other and having conversations over multiple different platforms and services we all end up on a single skype call that will last for hours as we have fun playing our own games or playing together and all while talking, until each of us go to bed one by one.

Even when this doesn't happen I'll be talking to at least two of them through messages, so at least it ain't dead yet.

Speaking of conversations, they're one of the main factors why I got involved in these forums. If you reply to someone here high chances are you're gonna get something back, especially if you ask a question or say anything that implies that you might want a reply.
That's why I love it here, because conversation thrives.
 

omega 616

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Yeah, pisses me off.

If I've not spoken to someone in awhile, I will send a message like "hey, what have you been doing?" or something and all I get back (if anything at all) is "nothing". Sometimes I will really try and follow up with things like "hows your bf/gf/brother/sister?" or "have you seen X?" and I just get responses like "yes/ok/good".

I feel like a fucking mug, I am not be the most socially "slick" person and talk about boring crap but at least I am not rude!

It's gotten to the point now where if I see somebody online I wont even bother sending anything, fuck 'em. It does lead to me thinking "why the fuck am I friends with them on [insert social media site] then?" though.
 

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I don't think conversation is any more dead than it used to be, at least based off your example.

Even in the days before social media, bumping into someone in the street you haven't seen in five years would likely just result in a short awkward conversation and a quick departure, and what you described is just the internet version of this.
 

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I'll admit I'm really difficult to talk to online.

I mean, I will purposefully stonewall people on facebook (I usually just appear offline on the off chance I am on it), I often ignore people on steam chat unless I'm good friends with them, even then you usually have to spam me to get me to respond. I just don't care about talking to most people I don't already speak to on TS.
It's a really bad attitude, but I just don't care and I don't even know why /shrug.
I'm somewhat different IRL though, love to hear peoples life stories and whatever else but usually when I hear those, there is copious amounts of alcohol involved which probably says more about me than I'd like. Other times though I'm just the same and I really don't want to talk to people.

So yeah, people like me are killing conversation :D
 

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an annoyed writer said:
With certain people, I suppose so. I mean, I've had 50 message+ long conversations with a few people here, and others that have lasted only a few replies. Some people are just hard to hold a conversation with. Overall though, I can see where you're coming from. I've gotten similar responses to you when trying to see how old friends are doing, and to be honest I find it pretty depressing.
Unfortuently I can relate to that too, some people seem to just care about them and nothing else. Guess its a sign that their not worth your time unless they later say they were busy or something?
 

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I'm very, very bad at having conversations with people, especially if it's people I don't know or haven't talked to in a long time. I try it, but "proper" socialization is something that's always kind of eluded me ever since I was a kid. Well in certain situations.

It's much easier online and in person. But if you put a phone in my hands and ask me to call someone I don't know, I have been known to have mini panic attacks. I really, really hate talking to people on the phone.