Have we Broken the 3 Laws of robotics?

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Seaf The Troll

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I have been wondering on this for a While.

we have made missiles that are Computer operated to hit a target

Built Guns that work with cameras.

so have we already Over stepped the rule. We have Programmers working all the time making AI's to kill the players of games and adapting tactics. (if you piss of your AI you are fighting against and it fights back by hitting the real you with a missile)


These are the 3 Laws.

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


I Would like to see your reasoning to this.
 

WrongSprite

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EDIT: I, Robot was originally written by Asimov guys, stop slamming on thinking it's a film.

You know the 3 laws are fictional right? From I-Robot?

Robots are gonna do whatever the hell we want them to, and seeing as we're human, killing is pretty high on the list.
 

Darth IB

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The way I see it, those laws are intended for AIs. Todays missiles and guns and whatnot aren't intelligent nor self-aware, and therefore the above laws really don't apply.
 

Seaf The Troll

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WrongSprite said:
You know the 3 laws are fictional right? From I-Robot?

Robots are gonna do whatever the hell we want them to, and seeing as we're human, killing is pretty high on the list.
it's from Isaac Asimov :p
 

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The 3 laws are there to protect humanity. Robotics represent too high an investment to not use them to massacre each other so we're not going to imprint them on anything for a good long time.
 

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Seaf The Troll said:
WrongSprite said:
You know the 3 laws are fictional right? From I-Robot?

Robots are gonna do whatever the hell we want them to, and seeing as we're human, killing is pretty high on the list.
it's from Isaac Asimov :p
Yeah...he wrote I-Robot. It's a book >_>
 

Seaf The Troll

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your re
WrongSprite said:
Seaf The Troll said:
WrongSprite said:
You know the 3 laws are fictional right? From I-Robot?

Robots are gonna do whatever the hell we want them to, and seeing as we're human, killing is pretty high on the list.
it's from Isaac Asimov :p
Yeah...he wrote I-Robot. It's a book >_>
DOH!

also the 0 law

0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
 

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WrongSprite said:
Seaf The Troll said:
WrongSprite said:
You know the 3 laws are fictional right? From I-Robot?

Robots are gonna do whatever the hell we want them to, and seeing as we're human, killing is pretty high on the list.
it's from Isaac Asimov :p
Yeah...he wrote I-Robot. It's a book >_>
I, Robot.

Sorry. I love being difficult.
 

Seaf The Troll

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say If we have the Geth (mass effect 1/2) version of AI... might make things go a little bad.

who is to say there is no ghost in the machine to come in the near future
 

DefunctTheory

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Seaf The Troll said:
who is to say there is no ghost in the machine to come in the near future
The neurosurgeons who freely admit they have no freaking idea what half our brains are for.

That's who can say.
 

Koeryn

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As has been mentioned before, current robots, be they for medical purposes, construction and manufacturing, or warfare, or little more than puppets. They're programing is very simple (Do this task), without the ability to reason or logic.

Putting a camera on a firearm hooked up to a third-party user doesn't come under the Laws of Robotics, as the Laws of Robotics are somewhat poorly named. They're really closer to being the Laws of Artificial Intelligences, as they involve safe-guarding mankind against machines that reason and learn with intellects similar in capacity to our own.
 

somonels

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Well, people have already created robots to punch them. Laser guided missles and other killing machines do not have AI - they lack the ability to learn and think in abstract ways.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
You are under the assumption that AI exist.

You are wrong.
AI does exist, it's just extremely early stages atm.


OT: I think the 3 laws only really concerns AI, and the weapons of today are simply machines and good computing.
 

Zaik

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None of those are self aware inorganic entities, so none of this applies at all.
 

Antari

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I wouldn't say we've broken them .. We haven't even implimented them.
 

DefunctTheory

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Catchy Slogan said:
AccursedTheory said:
You are under the assumption that AI exist.

You are wrong.
AI does exist, it's just extremely early stages atm.


OT: I think the 3 laws only really concerns AI, and the weapons of today are simply machines and good computing.
In a technical sense, you are correct. Thats AI.

The Rules of Robotics, however, do not refer to that definition.