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ryai458

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So yes this is old news but what do you guys think, is it cruel and unusual to keep a chicken alive for 1 and a half years after decapitation?
I think it is beyond cruel, what do YOU think?
Also here are some more links for proof.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/index.php
 

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emeraldrafael said:
I dont know, isnt it cruel and unusual that we farm chickens en mass just to slaughter?
No because it is for food, this is leaving a living thing without a head for entertainment.
 

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Life is cruel and unusual. Mike knew this, and he dealt with it like a boss. We should all do the same.
 

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I can't tell if it's cruel, because I would guess that the chicken isn't actually aware of anything that's happening at that point, nor does it feel pain, since it doesn't have a brain to process those things.

Is it grotesque? Hell yes. Is it cruel? That's arguable.
 

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ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
I dont know, isnt it cruel and unusual that we farm chickens en mass just to slaughter?
No because it is for food, this is leaving a living thing without a head for entertainment.
Yes, but your farming and feeding them to die. This isnt like going out to shoout wild turkey, you're genetically engineering an animal to die.

SO no, I dont find it cruel. Its how the world works, and if we can pass of slaughter farms instead of going out and hunting the chicken, I dont see how this is any crueler.

not one of those PETA types
 

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Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
I dont know, isnt it cruel and unusual that we farm chickens en mass just to slaughter?
No because it is for food, this is leaving a living thing without a head for entertainment.
Yes, but your farming and feeding them to die. This isnt like going out to shoout wild turkey, you're genetically engineering an animal to die.

SO no, I dont find it cruel. Its how the world works, and if we can pass of slaughter farms instead of going out and hunting the chicken, I dont see how this is any crueler.

not one of those PETA types
Your genetically engineering an animal to feed humans, just like you genetically engineer corn and soy to feed human and other animals its part of civilization and society to have a stable food supply.
 

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ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
It doesn't want anything, assuming it's brain was in it's head.
 

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Jim Grim said:
ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
It doesn't want anything, assuming it's brain was in it's head.
True, but we should recognize that it would not want to live that way.
 

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Fact: chickens are moronic animals that are hardly alive to begin with.
Fact: the chickens that you eat come from massive farms where they are raised with all sorts of hormones and other crap in dark warehouse buildings.
Fact: the chickens raised like this are genetically engineered to develop to be larger in a shorter time, meaning their leg bones are too weak to support them and they end up spending most of their lives unable to stand and therefore marinating in feces.
Fact: That chicken was likely treated better than any other chicken. Ever. They probably didn't even eat the stupid thing because it brought some fame and money to the owner.

Just saying.
 

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ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
I dont know, isnt it cruel and unusual that we farm chickens en mass just to slaughter?
No because it is for food, this is leaving a living thing without a head for entertainment.
Yes, but your farming and feeding them to die. This isnt like going out to shoout wild turkey, you're genetically engineering an animal to die.

SO no, I dont find it cruel. Its how the world works, and if we can pass of slaughter farms instead of going out and hunting the chicken, I dont see how this is any crueler.

not one of those PETA types
Your genetically engineering an animal to feed humans, just like you genetically engineer corn and soy to feed human and other animals its part of civilization and society to have a stable food supply.
I dont see any difference in cruelty. its no big deal to keep it alive, it was just going to die anyway. And you dont know if the chicken wants to live or not, and considering it cant think, theres no way to know. Since the human is the master, may as well make some cash on the side.
 

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ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
1. You don't know that, it's just your assumption.

2. It doesn't know that it's in that state, it's brain is dead, it doesn't know ANYTHING.
 

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ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
1. You don't know that, it's just your assumption.

2. It doesn't know that it's in that state, it's brain is dead, it doesn't know ANYTHING.
You're missing point.
 

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ryai458 said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
1. You don't know that, it's just your assumption.

2. It doesn't know that it's in that state, it's brain is dead, it doesn't know ANYTHING.
You're missing point.
You're missing a word, "the."
 

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I think it's pretty win, to be honest.

I believe so long as I am not suffering eternally, which I do not believe it was, it is not right to end something's life.

Personally, I believe that I would only wish for death should there be no hope of better things in the future, and if the pain of everyday life made clear thought impossible.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
ryai458 said:
emeraldrafael said:
I dont know, isnt it cruel and unusual that we farm chickens en mass just to slaughter?
No because it is for food, this is leaving a living thing without a head for entertainment.
Yes, but your farming and feeding them to die. This isnt like going out to shoout wild turkey, you're genetically engineering an animal to die.

SO no, I dont find it cruel. Its how the world works, and if we can pass of slaughter farms instead of going out and hunting the chicken, I dont see how this is any crueler.

not one of those PETA types
Your genetically engineering an animal to feed humans, just like you genetically engineer corn and soy to feed human and other animals its part of civilization and society to have a stable food supply.
I dont see any difference in cruelty. its no big deal to keep it alive, it was just going to die anyway. And you dont know if the chicken wants to live or not, and considering it cant think, theres no way to know. Since the human is the master, may as well make some cash on the side.
EXACTLY!! Humans are at the top. I don't support animal cruelty (my definition probably differs from yours in that my idea of Cruelty is just meaningless slaughter or causing harm for no good reason)
However I believe in being at the top of the food chain. Evolution ftw!

Secondly it's nice to know you're not a Peta type person
 

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ryai458 said:
Jim Grim said:
ryai458 said:
Even if it can't feel pain no living thing would want to be in that state, ever.
It doesn't want anything, assuming it's brain was in it's head.
True, but we should recognize that it would not want to live that way.
It was a chicken, I doubt it had strong moral values.