Here's what I think would make a great 3D Sonic game.

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Minic

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Watch this.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j1HkBFYfDFk

To be blunt, I want that to be playable. The spectrum-coloured explosions as he treads over the water, the bounding between stone columns, the running-sideways across vertical cliff-faces, the perching on top of mile-high towers with only a foot's width to stand on, AND the tossing of a small rock to destroy Eggman's ship from several yards away. All of it.

I also want to fight robots. Not with this shitty "homing dash" move Sonic's been sporting since Sonic Adventure, but with the leaping about and ripping off limbs that he was doing in that video.

That would be tricky, yes. That would need a great control system to intuitively and comfortably steer Sonic as he roams and jumps about. That would need a suitable camera system to properly follow him wherever he goes, and to gauge a good understanding of what you're making him do. But it's possible; with time and effort, it's possible.

And let's not stop there. Those long, empty, Dragon Ball Z-fight-scene plains - despite being a step up from the linear stage designs of the current games - would get boring. Let's visit neon-lit casinos and cities, and sprawling labyrinths, and ice-covered mountains, and other classic Sonic zones. Don't forget the Death Egg, either. And let's not just chop up robotic goons; how about titanic metal monsters and contraptions? Think the boss characters from 2D Sonic on an epic scale.

And then there's the other characters, and the plot. Well, here's an idea off the bat: let's make Sonic THE Hedgehog, not A Hedgehog. He's the only animal in the world who can run that fast, and it makes him sought after by characters both good and bad. So that means Shadow, Silver and Amy Rose are immediately trimmed out of the bloated franchise cast, and we've already got an interesting plot device.

So, whaddayareckon? Those are just a few ideas I wanted to share.
 

000Ronald

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Can it be ten times more violent? Can Sonic be morally questionalble and quite possibly psychotic? Can Robotinic be slightly less stotic (I.e., he wants to keep the emralds out of Sonic's hands because Sonic's F***ING INSANE). It would be kinda cool to see a psychological battle between a complete wack job and a man on the edge of sanity. And explain Sonic's origins. An Robotinic's. And introduce Tails about halfway in. And make the Gameplay friggin' awesome.

I'd play that.
 

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I'd like to see a return to core gameplay- namely, make it about speed. Just going really really fast. Is that so hard to do?
I've also felt that a linear/open style area would be good for Tails- plenty of spots that require speed, but more focus on the greater potential for hidden areas provided by flight. None of that mech/chase game BS from the last ones.
And a mildly interesting, not too distracting plot would be nice- I like having some motivation other than "You have to save the world!," or at least more plot points than "You are here. Go there and save the world." and "You saved the world." I actually liked how the SA games handled this- other than the adventure areas. Waste of time.
/SA2 was the only game Shadow was ever a good character in.
 

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SwiftVengeance1224 said:
You're right, the Sonic games need a huge rehaul. A return to the style of the original Tv shows and games for our little blue buddy would be great! I would definately buy the game you have in mind, however it would need a few tweaks:

-NO NEW CHARACTERS: unless the characters have been around for longer than 8 years

-A New Voice For Sonic: Seriously, the current guy makes me want to squeeze lemon juice in my eyes

-Sonic is not allowed to conform to the generation of eight-year-old that SEGA seems to imagine say coin phrases like: "Dude! That's totally humongo gnarly man!" (and others)

-The game should not involve humans in any way (unless they're Robotnik and already established enemies)

If the game had a few more innovative ideas, brought a couple of new ideas to the table, and revitalized the Sonic franchise, I would buy a Dreamcast 2. (if it ever comes out)
Oh yes, we'd make Sonic cool again, no doubt about that.

When I was pondering over what to do with the multitude of characters though, I felt that some characters need to go - Shadow and Rouge, for example - while other less-defined characters, such as the Chaotix Team and Blaze the Cat, could be salvaged for roles in the new story. They could be given more distinct personalities at the same time.
 

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Minic said:
Oh yes, we'd make Sonic cool again, no doubt about that.

When I was pondering over what to do with the multitude of characters though, I felt that some characters need to go - Shadow and Rouge, for example - while other less-defined characters, such as the Chaotix Team and Blaze the Cat, could be salvaged for roles in the new story. They could be given more distinct personalities at the same time.
I was thinking something more along the lines of a roots story. You could mabe learn a little bit about Robotinic and Tails. Not Sonic, though. I always imagined Sonic as being sort of like The Joker (he makes up a different reality every day, not to mention being completely psychotic). If that were the case, he may not even remember his past.

Just my opinion, though. Sorry if it offended anyone.
 

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The_Logician19 said:
Minic said:
Oh yes, we'd make Sonic cool again, no doubt about that.

When I was pondering over what to do with the multitude of characters though, I felt that some characters need to go - Shadow and Rouge, for example - while other less-defined characters, such as the Chaotix Team and Blaze the Cat, could be salvaged for roles in the new story. They could be given more distinct personalities at the same time.
I was thinking something more along the lines of a roots story. You could mabe learn a little bit about Robotinic and Tails. Not Sonic, though. I always imagined Sonic as being sort of like The Joker (he makes up a different reality every day, not to mention being completely psychotic). If that were the case, he may not even remember his past.

Just my opinion, though. Sorry if it offended anyone.
No, don't worry about that. Your opinion is your opinion, and so on. To be honest, though, I don't understand why you want such a story to happen within the Sonic franchise, with the ultra-violence and the multi-faceted mental cases. I do appreciate the idea of a "roots" story, though; I was envisioning something of an entire-series-redo myself, but that's not a bad idea either.
 

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Me and fiancee are huge sonic fans. Its really SEGA that need to slow down ,they just rushing sonic games out, as well as getting the sonic team to make other games too. I know its normal but to be working on more than one game at a time, but they have released like over 12 game between 2005 - 2007. And to me thats 'no good'.
Seeing sonic in brawl and how they have done him... I don't think SEGA should not hand him over but work more with Nintendo to make good games for him. The DS rush seris is good as well as sonic and the secret ring for the wii so maybe they'll bring out more good one for them 2 consoles...

And about more violence. My finance's been working on making a sonic mod for halo ce (custome edition) for ages mainly team problems have slowed him down but we're got most of the technical issuse o,ut the way, so this summer it should be finished (hopefully). I'm in charge of the multiplayer so create the sonic cheif so your running round shooting other sonic spartans in 3d version of 2D level. No other charaters aloud. ^^;
 

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The_Logician19 said:
Can it be ten times more violent? Can Sonic be morally questionalble and quite possibly psychotic? Can Robotinic be slightly less stotic (I.e., he wants to keep the emralds out of Sonic's hands because Sonic's F***ING INSANE). It would be kinda cool to see a psychological battle between a complete wack job and a man on the edge of sanity. And explain Sonic's origins. An Robotinic's. And introduce Tails about halfway in. And make the Gameplay friggin' awesome.

I'd play that.
Yeah, they should totally make a Dark and Edgy sonic game. They could make him black, and give him guns and... Oh, wait, they tried that, and it was Fucking Awful.
 

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I wish sonic would revert back to it's 2d days, with more focus on great level design, cool cinematic's, and robotnik's machines being bigger and better than ever.

sonic never had to be 3d. I've recently gone back and played through all of the original sonic's, and they were getting closer and closer to being completely perfect with every iteration. Right up until Sonic and Knuckles.
 

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I've often thought of this sort of thing for Sonic, and have had to put it away in the part of my mind where I store desires for things that won't be possible for god-knows how many years. Making controls tight enough to control sonic as fluidly as one would like is next to impossible at the moment, or at least few game developers would be up to the challenge.
 

Sylocat

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Most of the stuff you guys are suggesting has already been tried. And people hated it.
 

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Minic said:
The_Logician19 said:
Minic said:
Oh yes, we'd make Sonic cool again, no doubt about that.

When I was pondering over what to do with the multitude of characters though, I felt that some characters need to go - Shadow and Rouge, for example - while other less-defined characters, such as the Chaotix Team and Blaze the Cat, could be salvaged for roles in the new story. They could be given more distinct personalities at the same time.
I was thinking something more along the lines of a roots story. You could mabe learn a little bit about Robotinic and Tails. Not Sonic, though. I always imagined Sonic as being sort of like The Joker (he makes up a different reality every day, not to mention being completely psychotic). If that were the case, he may not even remember his past.

Just my opinion, though. Sorry if it offended anyone.
No, don't worry about that. Your opinion is your opinion, and so on. To be honest, though, I don't understand why you want such a story to happen within the Sonic franchise, with the ultra-violence and the multi-faceted mental cases. I do appreciate the idea of a "roots" story, though; I was envisioning something of an entire-series-redo myself, but that's not a bad idea either.
I apologize after every post because I think it's funny. I'm sorry if I worried you, but I apreciate your concern.

On topic again...

GloatingSwine said:
The_Logician19 said:
Can it be ten times more violent? Can Sonic be morally questionalble and quite possibly psychotic? Can Robotinic be slightly less stotic (I.e., he wants to keep the emralds out of Sonic's hands because Sonic's F***ING INSANE). It would be kinda cool to see a psychological battle between a complete wack job and a man on the edge of sanity. And explain Sonic's origins. An Robotinic's. And introduce Tails about halfway in. And make the Gameplay friggin' awesome.

I'd play that.
Yeah, they should totally make a Dark and Edgy sonic game. They could make him black, and give him guns and... Oh, wait, they tried that, and it was Fucking Awful.
I never suggested they re-make Shadow the Hedgehog. Sonic doesn't need a gun (have you seen those spikes growing out of his flesh, he can pulverize anything with those!). What I did suggest is making the game a psychological and physichal battle between a complete wack job (Sonic) and a man on the edge of madness (Robotinic). And it would be an interesting plot twist if Sonic was in a position to kill Robotinic but didn't because Tails begged him not to. Just my thoughts.

Apologies abound, as always.
 

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OK...all the edgy Sonic jokes aside....Shadow wasn't THAT bad. Shadow can work well, Sonic Team just can't make it work well. Shadow needs to remain an anti-hero that fights Sonic as a midboss or something then joins up in the end. Kind of like what Knux used to be.

As for characters...if they do go for teh multiple styles thing....stay with: Sonic, Tails, Knux, Espio (stealth), maybe Silver and Shadow (if they get guns to work).
 

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I agree. A good sonic game would consist of running fast while killing robots and collecting rings. Maybe every so often fight a much bigger robot that Robotnik is controlling. This is the basic formula that works. I'm not sure how Sega forgot this.

Neither Sonic nor his friends should be permitted to talk, and there should be a max of two friends included, and *only* for the possibility of online multiplayer.

- J