Heroes you yelled "YOU IDIOT!" at.

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SkellgrimOrDave

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Hello escapees, I'm here to vent about various characters in film we're supposed to side with and ultimately end up hating, it can be one thing, it can be the entire way they do things, or it can just be them.

First, it's the dumb love interest from X-men Origins:Wolverine. (I know, shitty film), for the one last thing she does. She has the bad guy, someone who has shown himself to be willing to kill, hire others to kill, control others with various means to kill, to turn a cheery man into an expriment that required the kidnapping of children and adults, and the forced extraction of their powers, and then ruining someone's life forver. She has this bastard under her control, gets him to stick his gun to his throat...... and makes him walk off.

What
The
Fuck.

Apparantly this would make her "just as bad as him."

No.
No it wouldn't.

You would be killing him, a man who is responsible for the deaths of many, the trauma of more, is going to cause many more problems and deaths for everyone years later, is a borderline genocidal maniac for whom the end justifies the means,and the end is pretty fucking bleak, and you think making him blowing his brains out will make you just as bad as him?

Clearly her brain was damaged.
 

Vault101

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hmm

a certain scene in Mass Effect 3 I said "what the fuck are you doing shepard!?" literally..out loud
 

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Every Jedi in the Star Wars prequels. Every one.
 

Jonluw

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I don't watch a lot of movies, but the main characters of Suzuka and Kimi no iru machi have had that effect on me a couple of times.
 

Zeckt

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Shion from the Xenosaga Trilogy. She starts off likeable enough, then degrades into being the most selfish, whiney and stupid character ever in video while treating everyone around her like crap. She literally has no redeemable qualities.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Will Smith's character in I Am Legend. All very noble sacrificing yourself for the women and child, however I'm sure having you and the cure together would have a lot more useful to the scientists who will now be working on mass producing it. Making your life alot more valuable in the grand scheme of things. I imagine the scientists will have had to spend alot of time reverse engineering the cure in order to recreate it, where as if he was still alive they could probably started mass producing the cure right away. Maybe a little picky but that has always bug me in that film.
 

WhyBotherToTry

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Vincent in Catherine. Some of the things he comes out with are moronic to an almost suspect degree and it feels like every five minutes I'm shouting at the screen calling him an idiot.
 

Scarim Coral

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Definitely Banagher Links during episode 4 At the Bottom of the Gravity Well from Gundam Unicorn.
You see there was this girl Loni Garvey, a Zeon remnants piloting this huge red mobile armour called Shamblo. She was told not to enter the city but did so anyway and apprently she let out a fit that cause the computer system inside the armour to commint mass murders (the armour beging firing lazer everywhere killing any civilians in the crossfire).

Banagher Links inside the mobile suit Gundam Unicorn was there to try to stop her with help with Riddhe Marcenas in his flying Mobile Suit Delta Plus.

Anyway the part where I scream at him calling for being an idiot was when they got an open shot to killed her. He was holding onto the Delta Plus right in the firing range as to destory the Shamblo you had to shoot it before it does (it got incredible shields that cannot be broken).

Loni was in a fit of despair when she learn that her closest friend was killed in another battle that was going on elsewhere and Banagher had heard her thought (another story). He had the perfect chance to killed her but he hesistated as he didn't wanted to killed her since apparently only meeting her hours ago for a few minutes was enough for him to had gotten to know her. Well Riddhe intervene and took the shot in his place.

People had viewed Loni as a tragic character (she joined the war for revenge over her death of her mother) but sorry why should I give sympathy for her? We only met her for a few minutes which is not enough for me to sympathy her epecially when she committed hundred if not thousand (it was a huge lazer shots) of death to the civilian as you clearly got to see the people getting killed (this is a Gundam show afterall) just because she had an angry fits.

Also I don't give a damn on Banagher pacifist view as he claim he never killed anyone. Oh really? What about that one person he accidently killed when he overshot the beam Magmun or being forced to killed that other mobile suit as it was getting in his way? Sure he was unaware of his action which only made him ignorant, liar and a hypocrite.

He's also a great big wuss that he hesistated for taking a shot. He was willing to lay down his life were he's had a big role in the whole plot. Ok yes I can understand it wasn't easy for him to do it but consdier it was a kill or be killed situation and sure no one like to do that but I thought he would of understand it all (if he didn't stop her, she would of killed many more as she won't back down which he fail at trying to reason with her) and would of resolve his doubts and fear.
 

NegaWiki

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Any hero from a movie where the moral is "be careful what you wish for." Well. only movies that happen to be recent. We've seen these types of stories hundreds of times and the moral has become so ingrained in the culture that I just cringed every time I heard Merida from Brave ask to "change my fate."
Would it kill any of these heroes to be more specific?
"I wish I could go back to my roots." Tree.
"I want to be the greatest ruler of the world." Giant ruler.
"I wish for a turkey sandwich, on rye bread, with lettuce and mustard, and, and I don't want any zombie turkeys, I don't want to turn into a turkey myself, and I don't want any other weird surprises." The turkey was dry.
 

Vivi22

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The Artificially Prolonged said:
Will Smith's character in I Am Legend. All very noble sacrificing yourself for the women and child, however I'm sure having you and the cure together would have a lot more useful to the scientists who will now be working on mass producing it. Making your life alot more valuable in the grand scheme of things. I imagine the scientists will have had to spend alot of time reverse engineering the cure in order to recreate it, where as if he was still alive they could probably started mass producing the cure right away. Maybe a little picky but that has always bug me in that film.
To be fair, that whole ending was a mess of hastily thrown together crap stuck in at the last minute because test screenings revealed that their audiences didn't like the original ending. This tells me that the test audiences were likely coma patients since the original ending not only had him live, but actually acknowledged the things they were hinting at with all of the zombie/monster people all movie long.

That movie is a great example of why you shouldn't let executives pretend they're directors.
 

Relish in Chaos

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Most things Son Gokuu does in Dragon Ball Z that miraculously turn out OK in the end, because he?s the main character and the Dragon Balls pretty much make death a non-issue. But because of this, he never learns from them and continues making progressively worse decisions, to the point that I wound up actually disliking the selfish bastard at numerous points in the story.
 

Misterian

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The majority of the KND in that x-over with Billy and Mandy/Codename: Kids Next Door.

There's just no way they shouldn't be able to see through Mandy's absurd Numbuh 1/Nigel disguise, I don't care if it's supposed to be Rule of Funny, no child is that stupid!
 

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Sylphiel from Slayers, I didn't mind her moralizing about the giga slave for the most part. She has legitimate concerns about it i.e if the spell goes wrong the world could be destroyed. However when Lina is about to cast it she decides the best thing to do is interrupt the spell. So instead of trusting in Lina,who's pulled it off successfully before,she stops her which could have potentially caused the spell to go wrong causing world destruction and nearly kills Lina(which served to pad out a already long enough battle with another episode). You are a moron,Sylphiel!

May,why in the hell would you listen to Envy? You know he's evil yet instead of leaving with a homunculus you can control, you go to central and cause even more troubles for everyone.


Yukari's insistence to go to the past to save the MC despite everyone telling her how awful an idea it is. To make it worse Mitsuru goes along with her because she's her friend even though she thinks this is kind of a bad idea. Yes you are friends but there are sometimes you have to slap them(something Yukari did for you)and tell them off.
 

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SkellgrimOrDave said:
Well she couldn't kill him because Wolverine is a prequel to the other Xmen movies and William Stryker is the bad guy in Xmen 2 so they kinda had to keep him alive otherwise they would have just pissed off people even more than the movie did already

OT:Ned Stark from A Game of Thrones(book and TV series)

Renly Baratheon offers to help Ned take Joffery into custody and Ned turns him down because it goes against his sense of honour.Yeah that worked out well for you and the rest of the seven kingdoms didn't it Ned
 

Swyftstar

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SkellgrimOrDave said:
Hello escapees, I'm here to vent about various characters in film we're supposed to side with and ultimately end up hating, it can be one thing, it can be the entire way they do things, or it can just be them.

First, it's the dumb love interest from X-men Origins:Wolverine. (I know, shitty film), for the one last thing she does. She has the bad guy, someone who has shown himself to be willing to kill, hire others to kill, control others with various means to kill, to turn a cheery man into an expriment that required the kidnapping of children and adults, and the forced extraction of their powers, and then ruining someone's life forver. She has this bastard under her control, gets him to stick his gun to his throat...... and makes him walk off.

What
The
Fuck.

Apparantly this would make her "just as bad as him."

No.
No it wouldn't.

You would be killing him, a man who is responsible for the deaths of many, the trauma of more, is going to cause many more problems and deaths for everyone years later, is a borderline genocidal maniac for whom the end justifies the means,and the end is pretty fucking bleak, and you think making him blowing his brains out will make you just as bad as him?

Clearly her brain was damaged.
This is pretty much my problem with every hero ever. Killing a homicidal maniac will in fact not make you just as bad as them. I get so pissed whenever I hear/see that crap. I'm sure the victims and relatives of all that person's victims in the future will feel good knowing that you can sleep better at night because you remained a "hero" and didn't kill the bugger. Then I remember that it's just a cartoon or a movie and I calm down. Still it's a silly convention that had a place maybe when stories were a little more innocent and the villian maybe just committed a few silly crimes, keeping that convention in a modern or mature storyline where the villian is pretty much the personification of evil and responsible for a million atrocities seems a bit silly to me.
 

CrazyGirl17

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Not sure about "hero" (at the time, anyway), but Prince Zuko's actions in the season 2 finale of Avatar: The Last Airbender had me practically screaming at my TV! Granted, things eventually work out, but still...!

Also, I agree with the OP on the whole "If You Kill Him, You Will Be Like Him" thing. Yes, I understand there is a line you shouldn't cross, but sometimes ya just have to put a bad person down! I do like playing with Tropes, so maybe there's a way around it? Hm...
 

shrekfan246

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Does it have to be from film? Because I'd like to throw in a vote for every single video-game protagonist that suddenly becomes clumsy and pathetic as soon as a cut-scene starts after you spent the last hour tripping up hundreds of enemies with absolutely zero difficulty whatsoever.