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UtopiaV1

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How are the campaigns of Napoleon taught in France?
How is the war of Italian Unification taught in Italy?
How is the Great Northern war taught in Sweden?
How is the Crimean war taught in Russia?
How are the campaigns of Shaka taught in South Africa?
etc etc bloody etc

These are rhetorical questions, I'm not expecting an answer. I'm just sick of these threads, because the bottom line is: wars are not taught in schools.

Oh yes I'm sure everyone outside of Germany can give me Himmler's favourite colour, but what about the start/end dates of the Indonesian war of Independence (off the top of your head, not wiki etc)? Very few people I'm guessing, I myself don't know, because that particular conflict wasn't discussed, even mentioned in passing, even given the slightest inclination that it even -happened-, in history lessons taught in the UK.

This is my impression of a typical English history course in secondary school: "blah blah world war 2, blah blah hitler, blah blah oh yeah, mussolini too, nearly forgot about him."

I'm under the (maybe deluded) impression that war is history and history is war, and there was and is no greater force acting on human history than that of armed conflict, for better and (more often than not) worse. The fact that nothing but world war bloody 2 is properly taught in schools still shocks me today, and I do worry about the effect this will have on our youth, as corny as it sounds.

Maybe it's just the whole 'obviously good vs obviously bad' thing that makes ww2 so appealing to teachers, maybe it's the only thing they're allowed to teach, but conflict is not that black and white, and if you grow up thinking it is, you'll end up waltzing into third world countries, claiming your here to protect these people from, oh I don't know, terror or something, then blow up their house.


If TL;DR, then here is the point of this thread: If you were a history teacher, what do you think the most important war is to teach to your students (for your country. Let's not delude ourselves, people can only easily identify with their own countrymen)? Also, if we actually have any history teachers here, I'd love to hear what they teach, and whether they have any control over what they can teach.
 

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If you don't like these threads, don't spread the cancer by starting a new one - instead, integrate your point into the existing threads.

I don't think it's important to teach war. I didn't learn about a single war during my time at school and I was quite okay with that, even grateful, because it meant that when I did choose to read about war later in life, the stories were interesting and hadn't been spoilered by having them rammed down my throat in my school years until I was sick of hearing about them.
 

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jackpipsam said:
How is Australian Politics taught in Australia?
It isn't. All I got taught was "you get to vote, you should register when you get old enough because if you don't it's illegal" and "there are political parties". That's it. Oh and we got to tour state parliament once and sit in the comfy chairs that the politicians sit in and stick gum under the seats, that was cool.
 

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UtopiaV1 said:
How is the Great Northern war taught in Sweden?
We go through that quite often during the time in school. At least as I remember it.
Especially Charles XII's total cock-up of the Swedish empire. His torturing of his own people to keep losing wars.
A whole nation in distress, no food for anyone, no money at all, and people dropping dead every second. What did he do? He drafted the ones that could fight, took all the supplies that he could get his hands on and left the rest of the population to face starvation and then he went to Norway and got shot..

And because of this Swedish "patriots" or "nationalists" (read nazis), think of him as some sort of diety and führer... They aren't the brightest bunch...


I digressed quite massively but my point was: Yes, we go through out own history quite well, even the total failures.