How much praise should we accept?

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Priderage

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It's often said that the most intelligent men realise that there is always more to learn. The wisest man thinks himself stupid in the eternal's mind, and the professional constantly strives to better himself in every aspect of his work. The journey is the true reward for any endevour; any man who realises this will never be content at any destination or feat.

This is the exact reason that I tend to be almost allergic to compliments of any kind; in Atlas Shrugged, when Henry Rearden tells Dagny, the protagonist-of-sorts, of her importance in the world and her incredible portfolio of works, she "stands rooted as if being lashed by a series of insults". Though it may sound like a complete take-off, the same thing can be applied to gaming.

Just yesterday, I abused a few tricks you can use to gain a very high number of headshots in Left 4 Dead. One of my teammates actually commented on this after loading was complete, citing it as impressive, and I waved the compliment away in a polite manner, stating that it's just a few methods you can use to raise the number, such as pistol sniping, or taking an Uzi to head-level once a Horde gathers around a pipebomb (or "piebomb", as he called it).

But then it occured to me that there are they that accept such praise and consider themselves better gamers for it. The journey to excellence is a beautiful thing, but is it so bad to stop and smell the roses every now and then? For that matter, would it make us better gamers, thinking that we have done well today? Does it act against us, constantly minimising our successes, and in many cases, maximising our failures?

How much praise should we accept? Should we be blind to the tips of the hat of our peers, in order to make ourselves ninjas? Or would life be better if we were to enjoy each occasion as it comes, as is the wont of pirates? (I'm sorry for that, but it had to be done, it was so appropriate).

Your thoughts?
 

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Priderage said:
Ace of Spades said:
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Edit: Ok, I read it, As much as I support Ninjas, I am all with the Pirate method of living in the moment. I don't beleive that people should worry about what is still to come when there is so much to enjoy in the present at this moment in time.
 

Ace of Spades

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Priderage said:
Ace of Spades said:
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I don't consider myself a better gamer when I accept a compliment, but they are nice to receive. It's nice to know that someone notices your luck, or your hard work at getting better at a game. Above all though, games should be fun. If you aren't having fun, then you aren't playing it right.
 

Howlingwolf214

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Accepting praise creates Elation, which can tend to distract people, when they feel on top of the world they relax more and tend to make more mistakes. On the other hand when people are elated they may try to work harder to achieve the satisfaction of praise again.

There is no answer, depends on who you are.
 

Priderage

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Above all though, games should be fun. If you aren't having fun, then you aren't playing it right.
Fun is a pretty relative concept. The other day, whilst typing up an essay on WinHex usage, I actually found myself having a great deal of fun. Whilst I was at it, I recall a mathematics exam I once found very fun, and felt genuinely disappointed when the end call was made. It does, as HowlingWolf214 said, depend greatly on who you are. Whether you think a constant strive for excellence is more deeply satisfying than accepting whatever the moment grants you. But at the same time, I think Bored Tomatoe's (who has an awesome avatar that cracks me up) comment was quite wise for the reverse argument - that nobody knows what the future will bring.

Quite a lovely topic, if you think about it.
 

ParkourMcGhee

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I see what you mean, and I sometimes kick myself for getting a KD ratio less than 1.5 in COD4, but I don't mind compliments so much. Another thing. This isn't restricted to gaming it's the current culture of facades. IF you 'look good' for a job you're more likely to be hired than if you are good but don't boast about it as much in your resume. I really hate this fact of life we have to get through currently but I doubt that I can do very much about it.
 

L.B. Jeffries

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I would say there's nothing wrong with enjoying a few compliments so long as you accept that it's just a temporary thing. You will wake up tomorrow and have another match. There will always be another thing you don't know and can incorporate into your playing. The problem with compliments is that people seem to think it means they're done, as opposed to just getting started.

I do recommend never accepting compliments from strangers for the same reason you don't take candy from them. They might lure you into a van and kidnap you.
 

Fanboy

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I have real trouble accepting praise of any kind, but that's mostly due to my depressingly poor self-esteem.

I do, however, love to hear the insults of my enemies/rivals as I massacre them; It's music to my ears.
 

Jandau

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In most competitive activities Winning simply means sucking less than the other guy(s)/team. Recieving praise (assuming it's honest) simply means that the other party is impressed by what you did/can do, but it by no means implies you're anywhere near "perfection". Heck, you might be quite a crappy player yourself, it's just the other guy sucked more.

Example: Dawn of War 2 Beta. Yesterday I faced off against a newbie. The guy couldn't have had more than a few games under his belt. I outmaneuvered him, predicted his tactics and countered them... basically, demolished him. Afterwards, he started praising my gameplay. And indeed, from his perspective, I was good. That doesn't change the fact that my next match was against a Rank 22 Tyranid who won with a 500-0 score. Does that diminish my skills? Nope, I just got ouplayed. And I thanked the winner for a good match since it taught me a few things.

Personally, whenever I get my arse royally handed to me in a fair fight, I always make sure to compliment the other party on it. If I lose by a small margin (again, fairly) I generally make sure to thank my opponent for a fair challenge. And if my opponent feels the need to gloat, I generally say bad things about his ancestors ;)
 

RufusMcLaser

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All things in moderation. Accept praise, but remember your limits, and strive to improve whenever it's practical. That's widely applicable, wouldn't you say?
 

Tales of Golden Sun

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Ah, you mentioned Socrates!
That really does me good.

In my opinion it's okay to accept praise, as long as you don't get arrogant. You shouldn't avoid every praise you get either.
Enjoy your praise, but don't overdo it.

And when playing a game, just enjoy it, as long as you think you deserve to be praised.
I mean, if you're using a certain trick that anyone could perform to get a lot of kills, and you are getting praised for getting a lot of kills that way, but you don't think you should be praised because anyone could do it, don't accept it. However, if you really feel that you did your best, and you really deserve some praise, feel free to enjoy it.
 

Lord_Of_Plum

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Well, when it comes to gaming, I'm actually pretty bad at almost all games online.
But nevertheless, I agree with Mr. Socrates over there and think that philosophy should be applied in all things, not just gaming.
 

Random Argument Man

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Praise is like a double-edge sword. One game, you have a particuliar headshot that win the games. Everyone praise you for winning the game. The other round just happens to be the contrary. You didn't saved the team. You just gave the advantage to the enemy. Right after that, all those pesky little shouting 12 years olds starts screaming at you.

Don't let it get to you. Just try better next time.
 

mattttherman3

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On XBL I love praise, because I usually here idiotic comments and F bombs every few seconds, along with the word NOOB.
 

Erana

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Compliments only supplement what I know to be true.

Truth > the word of others.