Humans can't evolve.

[hypothetical fact]

Since the current escapist fad is on gender and species I think this is fitting.

Humans can' evolve, we have too many people with too many random genes able to breed. Even when inferior humans would die off, medical science saves them so they can breed and spread their stupid throughout humanity.

The only way Humanity will evolve to be stronger, faster, smarter etc is to force the World's best and brightest to breed in an enclosed environment for several generations until we have a race of better people that can spread their favourable genes through out the gene pool. We already know that this will work because we have thousands of years of practice on dogs so all we need is public approval which won't happen, why won't the public approval?

The public won't approve because ethics and morals are geting in the way of progress; progress which could be easily made if we stop letting people breed with who ever they want rather than who is best for humanity.

I post this knowing full well that I will be flamed/banned but just know that when you whine your loss of faith in humanity, it is because you don't support forced breeding.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

Natural selection is the idea that the unfit are killed off before breeding age. This isn't true for humans anymore.

In fact, smarter more educated people are more likely to have kids later in life if at all.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Humanity is evolving. The average height two hundred years ago was a lot smaller then the standard height today.

Survival of the Fittest is gone (for now...) but that doesn't mean we are not changing as a species.

 

[GloatingSwine]

I think I see your problem. It's this:

The only way Humanity will evolve to be stronger, faster, smarter etc is to force the World's best and brightest to breed in an enclosed environment for several generations until we have a race of better people that can spread their favourable genes through out the gene pool.

This sentence, essentially, betrays your lack of understanding of evolution.

Evolution does not mean becoming "stronger, faster, smarter, etc.", it means becoming more suited to the environment in which a species lives.

Humans will continue to evolve to match the environment we have created for ourselves.

 

[Amnestic]

We already know that this will work because we have thousands of years of practice on dogs

Aren't Pedigree dogs generally drooling morons who look nice but aren't really useful for much else (they're 'fey' for lack of a better term) whereas mongrels are tough, hardy and can take punishment? Forgive me if I'm wrong, my expertise on dog breeding isn't that incredible, but I was under the impression that generally pedigree dogs are there for show whereas mongrel dogs are more useful for actual tasks that matter.

As for humanity evolving...do we need to? I fully endorse any sort of evolution which will give me a planet which has catgirl humanoids running around, be it via freak accident or forced genetic manipulation (however one would do that, again, not an expert). Besides my slightly creepy fetish however, what cause do we have to evolve? Yeah we could be stronger, faster, smarter etc. but what's the point? Why bother?

 

[Erana]

Since the current escapist fad is on gender and species I think this is fitting.

Humans can' evolve, we have too many people with too many random genes able to breed. Even when inferior humans would die off, medical science saves them so they can breed and spread their stupid throughout humanity.

The only way Humanity will evolve to be stronger, faster, smarter etc is to force the World's best and brightest to breed in an enclosed environment for several generations until we have a race of better people that can spread their favourable genes through out the gene pool. We already know that this will work because we have thousands of years of practice on dogs so all we need is public approval which won't happen, why won't the public approval?

The public won't approve because ethics and morals are geting in the way of progress; progress which could be easily made if we stop letting people breed with who ever they want rather than who is best for humanity.

I post this knowing full well that I will be flamed/banned but just know that when you whine your loss of faith in humanity, it is because you don't support forced breeding.

You've been playing too much Bioshock.
Really, we're gonna either 'asplode ourselves, plunge ourselves into a dark age, or figure out how manipulate genes in a spiffy, scifi way before then.

Anyway, are there that many of the world's "Best and Brightest" who are willing to be locked in a box with a bunch of horny smart guys?

Anyway, you can't just cut the population of the world in half. Japan and the US are both staring down the barrel of having to support a retiring generation bigger than the current breadwinners. And I know I'm not gonna get any meticaid.
Of course, I hope I make enough money to not need it.

 

[GloatingSwine]

Aren't Pedigree dogs generally drooling morons who look nice but aren't really useful for much else (they're 'fey' for lack of a better term) whereas mongrels are tough, hardy and can take punishment? Forgive me if I'm wrong, my expertise on dog breeding isn't that incredible, but I was under the impression that generally pedigree dogs are there for show whereas mongrel dogs are more useful for actual tasks that matter.

Worse than that. Purebreed pedigree dogs almost always have serious health problems, arthritis especially is common in lots of breeds, but many are susceptible to other things like cancer as well.

This is always the problem with a restricted breeding pool. You might get one or two desired traits, but you can't eliminate the unpleasant things that come with them.

 

[Aardvark]

Eventually, mankind will start colonising outer space. The first colonies are going to be people who have been hand-picked to survive the rigours of space travel and are skilled at something required for space travel. The first terraformers will be hardy specimens indeed, trained in biology, geology and other fields that would be suited to taking a patch of alien soil and making it support human life. These pioneers will be our first steps into outer space, the elite, those who make it past the required screening processes.

By the time space travel advances to the point that they can cart off a few thousand dirt farmers and throw them on some backwater planet and see if they do alright, earth will have destroyed itself in nuclear fire and the descendants of those colonists will be the only humans left.

 

[Dele]

Our next step in evolution will propably be the better use of abundant energy many of us have on our weist. I vote for more brain power

 

[Eagle Est1986]

I think that's how Hitler started, what with his master race and all.
I do agree with you though, humans have long since stopped evolving, survival of the fittest doesn't really apply to us anymore.

 

[Alex_P]

Humanity is evolving. The average height two hundred years ago was a lot smaller then the standard height today.

Survival of the Fittest is gone (for now...) but that doesn't mean we are not changing as a species.

That's mostly the consequence of better nutrition, not genetic drift.

-- Alex

 

[Amnestic]

I think that's how Hitler started, what with his master race and all.
I do agree with you though, humans have long since stopped evolving, survival of the fittest doesn't really apply to us anymore.

Godwinned in 12 posts. G'night folks.

 

[Naeberius]

Aren't Pedigree dogs generally drooling morons who look nice but aren't really useful for much else (they're 'fey' for lack of a better term) whereas mongrels are tough, hardy and can take punishment? Forgive me if I'm wrong, my expertise on dog breeding isn't that incredible, but I was under the impression that generally pedigree dogs are there for show whereas mongrel dogs are more useful for actual tasks that matter.

Worse than that. Purebreed pedigree dogs almost always have serious health problems, arthritis especially is common in lots of breeds, but many are susceptible to other things like cancer as well.

This is always the problem with a restricted breeding pool. You might get one or two desired traits, but you can't eliminate the unpleasant things that come with them.

humans used to have this problem but we got rid of it (mostly) when we banned incest (except in hentai...). humans have come to far in the cushy-must-save-everyone-especially-those-with-disabilities mindset to "purge" the species and make it better. so now we have to go "forward" and wait until we can artificially modify genes or give cybernetics to enhance the species.

but we have to figure it out soon before we "de-evolve" as a result of lower intelligent humans mass producing and intelligent humans have been having few or none.

 

[Knight Templar]

We wouldn't evolve anyway, we change our enviroment to suit us.

 

[Valandar]

Eugenics is the concept of only allowing the intelligent, healthy, etc people to breed.

It is also considered horribly unethical to use on humans. After all, the last significant group to attempt this is now so vilified you can't bring them up in a debate, even if they are the perfect example, without Godwinning a thread.

However... the US tried to do just that near the turn of the century. However, the proposal was forced sterilization of the 'mentally handicapped' and - get this - 'morally handicapped'. In one sterling example, a mother and her daughter were forcibly sterilized by court order, because said mother was of 'loose morals' - even though the daughter was just a child!

Evolution will happen in whatever way it will, no matter what we try. Smart people seem to prefer smart people, while idiots breed with idiots. It's entirely possible that the idiots will choke the smart people off the planet by sheer numbers, but it is equally plausible that, eventually, the idiots will breed themselves into starvation while the smart people, having used their smarts to get into positions of power, wealth, and authority, have sufficient resources to survive beyond them.

And for those who do not believe in evolution, you can always say that whatever happens is what was meant to happen.

 

[Izakflashman]

Forced breeding to make humans awesome? that doesn't sound like what nazis were after in the least. -_-
And anyway, I doubt all the strong athletic guys would want to mate with all the strong athletic manly looking chicks out there anyway. (I know, there are lots of hot athletic chicks, but I'm imagining those praying mantis, 12 pack chicks that lift cars, whos own abdomen would crush babies if they ever decided to tense.)

 

[Izakflashman]

Humanity is evolving. The average height two hundred years ago was a lot smaller then the standard height today.

Survival of the Fittest is gone (for now...) but that doesn't mean we are not changing as a species.

That's mostly the consequence of better nutrition, not genetic drift.

-- Alex

And we also have millions of fat people, who need scooters to get around malls, yea, we own, because now we all just have "Big bones." =P

But asides that, I agree, diet has more to do with our height than genetics do, although theres always that one family you know that are all freakin massive because they got it from both sides of the family or something.