I do not understand.

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Anita and her trope war.

After listening to her a few times .

All I can say is this.

"OH MY GOD. WHO THE HELL CARES?!" - Peter Griffin.

In her videos she clearly states over, and over that media has little to no effect on the way people see things.

"We generally don't have a see monkey, and monkey do relationship with social forms of media." - Anita. (Didn't quote correctly. I know)

So Anita if you clearly state that sexism doesn't come from video games.
Why are you even doing this? What's the point?

Anita is also sexist against man.

As she claims the reason the men only save/or feel guilty/sorrow/etc about women is when they fail them do to masculinity instead of you know. Actual emotions?

"But if we dig a little deeper into the subject I argued that the true source of the pain stems from feelings of weakness/and or guilt over his failure to perform his socially prescribed patriarchal duty to protect his women and children."

OH YES GREAT ANITA! Me crying and feeling depressed about my loved one dying isn't from my own emotions but instead my duty!
Because that's in itself isn't sexism. Right?

Me being trapped literally 5 inches away from my loved who just got shot in the head isn't going to invoke emotions like guilt, and sorrow due to the fact I WAS JUST RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF HER AND COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. Nope! It's patriarchy! That's the reason!

Also I am tired of feminist and Anita taking things way out of fucking context and twisting them around.

"In fact these games usually frame the loss of the women as something that has been taken unjustly from the male hero."

Or the quote she used from Darkness 2.
"Jackie. Now I take from you."

Now let's think about it.
I belong to my girlfriend.
My girlfriend belongs to me.
She is mine.
And I am hers.
We belong together.
The sense of belonging isn't some male power fantasy is a feeling love not some type of sexism.
My girlfriend says all the time that "I'm hers."
In fact she probably shes "Your mine. c:" at least once a day.

Do I take this as sexism? Do I take this as her trying to control me? Do I take this as I am her property?
No. I fucking don't.

Generally if you take someone's girlfriend/wife/fiance away.
You're not taking just the physical being away but also the emotions that go along with it.
So yes that love does belong to x. You're taking away his companion in life. You're taking away his feelings of love and compassion for that person.


What is marriage again?
Marriage is a union of two people who generally become one symbolically.

I remember when I was little and went to my brother's wedding.
They had three candles.
2 were lit.
1 one wasn't.

They each picked up their lit candle and lit the single candle and the priest said something how now become one with each other.


Generally when you're in a relationship Anita you do some-what belong to that person. Male and Female.
Do you think your boyfriend would be happy with you having sex with other males?
And would you allow your boyfriend to have sex with other females?

Okay then. So there in some ways you do belong to each other.

/ranting.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

 

[Soopy]

As the Simpson episode said so eloquently "Just don't look". Don't pay attention to the shill and she'll go away.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

I love that fact she is blatantly sexist against men.
I mean honestly.. saying the men only care about the lost of their lover is due to masculinity?
Wow.. just wow.

o.e I hate feminist so much.

They also need to learn the difference between sexualized and sexist.

But at the end of the day.
Who doesn't prefer some extremely hot woman?
Or some extremely handsome man?

 

[piinyouri]

There are good feminists, and there are bad feminists.
She is a bad feminist.

She also has a terrible attitude and disposition. (Tends to go along with being a bad feminist.)

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

I love that fact she is blatantly sexist against men.
I mean honestly.. saying the men only care about the lost of their lover is due to masculinity?
Wow.. just wow.

o.e I hate feminist so much.

They also need to learn the difference between sexualized and sexist.

But at the end of the day.
Who doesn't prefer some extremely hot woman?
Or some extremely handsome man?

I know I do.

It's the eyes.

So very, very handsome.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

I love that fact she is blatantly sexist against men.
I mean honestly.. saying the men only care about the lost of their lover is due to masculinity?
Wow.. just wow.

o.e I hate feminist so much.

They also need to learn the difference between sexualized and sexist.

But at the end of the day.
Who doesn't prefer some extremely hot woman?
Or some extremely handsome man?

I know I do.

It's the eyes.

So very, very handsome.

Hahaha. I don't post very often because I normally just rant about things.
But I must say. You Ma'am/Sir do make me laugh a lot on these forums.

Finding your posts in a thread is like finding a gem in the middle of the dirt.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

I love that fact she is blatantly sexist against men.
I mean honestly.. saying the men only care about the lost of their lover is due to masculinity?
Wow.. just wow.

o.e I hate feminist so much.

They also need to learn the difference between sexualized and sexist.

But at the end of the day.
Who doesn't prefer some extremely hot woman?
Or some extremely handsome man?

I know I do.

It's the eyes.

So very, very handsome.

Hahaha. I don't post very often because I normally just rant about things.
But I must say. You Ma'am/Sir do make me laugh a lot on these forums.

Finding your posts in a thread is like finding a gem in the middle of the dirt.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think this place is so bad that my posts are then only thing that stand out

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

I love that fact she is blatantly sexist against men.
I mean honestly.. saying the men only care about the lost of their lover is due to masculinity?
Wow.. just wow.

o.e I hate feminist so much.

They also need to learn the difference between sexualized and sexist.

But at the end of the day.
Who doesn't prefer some extremely hot woman?
Or some extremely handsome man?

I know I do.

It's the eyes.

So very, very handsome.

Hahaha. I don't post very often because I normally just rant about things.
But I must say. You Ma'am/Sir do make me laugh a lot on these forums.

Finding your posts in a thread is like finding a gem in the middle of the dirt.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think this place is so bad that my posts are then only thing that stand out

Well it's not. But yours are funnier!

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

 

[Smeatza]

Just try to bear in mind she's an extremist.
Don't take her any more seriously than you would Al Qaeda.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

...

D: My girlfriend likes BDSM.

;-; She isn't a freak!

 

[krazykidd]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

Woah woah waoh , what did the BDSM people do to you?

OT : Eh . EEEEEEEHHHHH . Meh . MEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH . Shes an attention whore . And worst part is , it's working .

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

Woah woah waoh , what did the BDSM people do to you?

OT : Eh . EEEEEEEHHHHH . Meh . MEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH . Shes an attention whore . And worst part is , it's working .

What? I didn't say that everyone who's into BDSM is a freak. Just Anita's hypothetical boyfriend.

But I understand why you might have thought that. I deserve to be punished. Please, punish me. Punish me good.

 

[Risingblade]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

Hey that's not fair, she could be a lesbian for all we know. I pity the man/woman/thing that's dating her.

 

[Legion]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

This pretty much sums it up.

Don't get me wrong, when she is literally discussing the tropes themselves, where they appear and what they are then she is spot on. But when it comes to interpreting them and looking at them within context, she is appalling.

That said, as Jim said last year, she is the monster that gamers created. If people had just shut up and ignored her back when this all started, she'd be just another person with an extremist view, and nobody would care. But because the misogynists and the trolls decided to wade in and feed her ammunition, this whole thing has exploded out of control.

She is like the gender equivalent of the recent murder in London of the off-duty soldier. A couple of guys murdered him, clearly crazy and ranting about a load of extremist crap. Had the media just said "Crazy guys murder an off-duty soldier" it'd be tragic, but it'd be dealt with properly.

Instead you get the media whipped up into a frenzy calling them terrorists, you have the EDL fucktards making out as though it's all down to Islam, and it's been made out to be significantly worse than it really should have been.

Simply put: She is an idiot, but other idiots are making her seem less of one, and giving ammunition to her and those who support her particular views.

For example those idiots are causing some to automatically assume that all of the hatred levelled against her is because she is a woman, rather than the fact that she holds condemnable views about both men and women. So even those who make legitimate complaints are being labelled as misogynistic or sexist.

 

[chiggerwood]

I wonder if Anita has a boyfriend. Who the fuck would date this psycho? If she does, he's probably some BDSM freak who enjoys being choked and whipped.

Hey that's not fair, she could be a lesbian for all we know. I pity the man/woman/thing that's dating her.

I just automatically assumed she was dating a Dalek myself.

OT: Eehh just ignore her, she isn't going to change a damned thing, really all she's doing is just a pointless, frivolous exercise that achieves nothing, affects nothing and only serves to make herself feel good.

 

[Quadocky]

What don't you understand?

Learn more about feminism then.

If you want to know, Anita Sarkeesian is on point in context to feminism as a school of thought. Nothing she has conveyed in her videos is incorrect and she demonstrates her criticism with great clarity and abundant evidence.

Media does have an effect upon us, not directly of course, but ideas conveyed by narrative can leave impressions upon us in the way we interpret things and our own introspective thoughts. (Games like Final Fantasy 7 and Tales of Symphonia for example have had some influence in regards to how I approach ideas in relation to morality or other topics)

If you don't care that is your own fault. You should not blame Anita for your own disinterest in the subject of how women (and men for that matter) are presented in popular media and narrative.

And the fact that people continue to judge her character shows me that they are not interested in actually learning something new, rather going on a petty crusade to assassinate someone who dares speak about awful and problematic things in video games.

The thing is, problematic things DO exist in video games, there is nothing wrong with talking about them. Just because a video game is merely meant to be 'entertainment' like any other form of media, it does not excuse it from greater dialog or insightfulness. How else do you expect people to understand the WHY of things if we just pretend that its 'normal' or expected that representation of women in games are roundly awful? And not just awful, but pretty much stereotyped to the point that the Exceptions always always always float to the top of relevancy because of how much awfulness there actually is!

Though in the end, I could always revel in the fact that Anita brings out the worst in gamer dorks everywhere and make fun of them.

 

[Lilani]

-snip-

I disagree with you on a few things, but while I'm certain I wouldn't agree with Anita on everything, I haven't watched any of her videos and I'm not really bothered by any of this much. If her opinions make her so angry, then why do you subject yourself to them? I understand you can't avoid forums like this where people talk about it, but from the knowledge you have on her opinions it seems you've actually seen her work.

Why? You know what to expect from her. I avoid Glenn Beck for this reason. I know he's a charlatan who makes his money by manipulating people and weaponizing their nostalgia and virtues, so I just tune into other things. You should do the same.

 

[Quadocky]

The woman is a hack.

She's like an undergraduate that didn't quite leave enough time for her dissertation and just rehashes the same simple rhetoric we've all heard a million times before.

Not to mention that she has no clue how context works.

Who's we? What Rhetoric?

How is she a 'hack'?