I, Robot Dilemma (novel)

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MarlaminLTarmiko

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Hello chaps, I'm here with a slight dilemma (for me anyway). I've almost finished I, Robot, and I've been thinking about situations for putting the robots through. Kind of using an example from the book, what if two people were underneath a heavy object in different locations, and this fell with the robot only able to save one of them, which human would the robot save? A similar situation, people in different locations are still underneath said object, but now 5 people are underneath one of them with 1 person remaining underneath the other, but the one with 5 people is several times further away. Does the robot attempt to save the human they're more likely to, or the one with a higher number of people. This was very possibly answered in another one of his books (he wrote over 500!) but yeah, just things I was wondering.

These are the 3 laws of Robotics just so you remember.

1. A robot may not injure a human being, r through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings except when such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
 

nintendoeats

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In the first situation, the robot help whoever it was most likely to save. In the second, it would help the 5 people. It is a calculation free of petty romanticism.

To clarify, in the second situation the robot is still more likely to save at least one life because there are 5 times as many people. The rock would have to be very far away for the one life to be the better choice.
 

maddawg IAJI

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The Robot would save the one who has the highest chance of living. That was kinda the whole back story for Will Smith's character in the movie adaption. I'd imagine it would be the same in the other circumstance as well.
 

nintendoeats

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maddawg IAJI said:
The Robot would save the one who has the highest chance of living. That was kinda the whole back story for Will Smith's character in the movie adaption. I'd imagine it would be the same in the other circumstance as well.
Speak not of it!!!!!!!!
 

maddawg IAJI

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nintendoeats said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The Robot would save the one who has the highest chance of living. That was kinda the whole back story for Will Smith's character in the movie adaption. I'd imagine it would be the same in the other circumstance as well.
Speak not of it!!!!!!!!
I kinda have to speak of it. The movie actually got me interested in Asimov's novels. Without it, I probably never would have read I, Robot.
 

nintendoeats

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maddawg IAJI said:
nintendoeats said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The Robot would save the one who has the highest chance of living. That was kinda the whole back story for Will Smith's character in the movie adaption. I'd imagine it would be the same in the other circumstance as well.
Speak not of it!!!!!!!!
I kinda have to speak of it. The movie actually got me interested in Asimov's novels. Without it, I probably never would have read I, Robot.
gaaaaaah...ok, well then that movie did at least accomplish SOMETHING.
 

MarlaminLTarmiko

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I just want to thank both of you for answering so quickly and so well, It is very much appreciated. I purposely made no reference to the film, as it's both god awful and that it's completely different and unrelated to the subject matter. But I have to admit the movie was also one of the reasons I've read it, and will now continue reading his work (foundation series next :D) Anyway, yes, thank you.
 

Larmo

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I never minded the movie, it wasn't groundbreaking in any way but I was entertained, and that was the point.
 

Yoshisummons

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To me they forgot to program the importance of certain people based upon age group and gender. For example, having the vertical axis displaying priority points applied into the equation and the horizontal graph for age such as this one example (please ignore the set axis within the image used).


Then, have a set priority of females over males also being inserted into the equation. Since we all know the number of females has greater influence on the future population growth than males do(sorry guys).
 

Blank Kold

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the robot would calculate the chances of survival for both cars, and go to the one with a higher chance. For instance, if the closer car's one person had a 50% chance to survive whilst the further cars 5 people had chances of 60%,20%,30%,70%, and 10% the robot would go to the further car because the chance of at least one surviving human was higher than that of the closer car.
 

flagship

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It really depends on the robot.

If you ever read his robot series the laws he created come with some very interesting gray areas.

There's a zero law that is derived from the original 3 laws and over rides them. In the fourth book the greatest robot ever created allows a nuclear bomb to slowly irradiate the surface of the earth because inadvertently it saves human kind from death by apathy.