Idea for a new weapon for the next Doom game

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PapaGreg096

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Okay so its going to be a Preacher refrence so while in Hell Doomguy gets these 2 Old West style dual pistols and he uses them akimbo style thoughts
 

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I think there's probably like a hundred mods that do that by now and plenty of other games. Serious Sam, for example. No need to wait for the next game.
 

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I don't see New Doom Guy holding two old western-like revolvers be suitable for its theme.
For the Classic Doomguy maybe is better. Give Doomguy Two giant Magnums and he is ready to go.
 

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In the project Brutality mod doomguy can upgrade his pistols to both a single and dual wielded revolvers. Pretty satisfying to use. Guncaster has the best Doom mod revolver by far though.
 

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SweetShark said:
I don't see New Doom Guy holding two old western-like revolvers be suitable for its theme.
For the Classic Doomguy maybe is better. Give Doomguy Two giant Magnums and he is ready to go.
Aren't they meant to be the same individual?

Also, considering the presence of the super shotgun, I could still see revolvers being used.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Okay so its going to be a Preacher refrence so while in Hell Doomguy gets these 2 Old West style dual pistols and he uses them akimbo style thoughts
That's just an incredibly bland in-joke that's only going to make sense to people who've read an old graphic novel. And even then it's a goddamn stretch.

Mechanically, I don't see where a revolver would fit in between the regular pulse pistol and its alt-fire mode. I never used the dang pistol anyway. Super shotgun + gauss cannon with siege mode.
 

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SweetShark said:
Give Doomguy Two giant Magnums and he is ready to go.
Beat me to it. Doomguy wouldn't bother with pee-shooters (who uses the pistol anyway??). He needs a pair of hand cannons that would break the average person's wrists.
 

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Big fuck off continuous fire laser that can penetrate multiple targets.
 

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The only thing is, Doom Guy always struck me as relatively practical in his weaponry compared to many FPS protagonists. He was no Serious Sam, or Duke Nukem. As a result, while many of his weapons were pretty cool, they weren't style over substance cool. Wielding a revolver or two when you've got an arsenal of space-age weaponry reeks of posturing and Doom Guy does not posture. He just kills.

On the other hand, I'd like to see a weapon made from the body parts of a demon. Maybe give him a flamethrower made from the head of an imp. That fits his style of pragmatism in my opinion.
 

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Oh! A check your privilege gun that fills the daemon with so much implied guilt over being able-bodied, part of the Patriarchy, not hiring on any girl-daemon and not being vegan.
 

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sageoftruth said:
The only thing is, Doom Guy always struck me as relatively practical in his weaponry compared to many FPS protagonists. He was no Serious Sam, or Duke Nukem. As a result, while many of his weapons were pretty cool, they weren't style over substance cool. Wielding a revolver or two when you've got an arsenal of space-age weaponry reeks of posturing and Doom Guy does not posture. He just kills.

On the other hand, I'd like to see a weapon made from the body parts of a demon. Maybe give him a flamethrower made from the head of an imp. That fits his style of pragmatism in my opinion.
Doesn't he use a double buck shotgun and a chainsaw, the dude has a little style to his weaponary
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
sageoftruth said:
The only thing is, Doom Guy always struck me as relatively practical in his weaponry compared to many FPS protagonists. He was no Serious Sam, or Duke Nukem. As a result, while many of his weapons were pretty cool, they weren't style over substance cool. Wielding a revolver or two when you've got an arsenal of space-age weaponry reeks of posturing and Doom Guy does not posture. He just kills.

On the other hand, I'd like to see a weapon made from the body parts of a demon. Maybe give him a flamethrower made from the head of an imp. That fits his style of pragmatism in my opinion.
Doesn't he use a double buck shotgun and a chainsaw, the dude has a little style to his weaponary
True, both definitely have a cathartic appeal to them that isn't all that practical. Still, those do somehow fit Doom Guy. Perhaps because he's a brutal killer who takes pleasure in harming his demonic foes. I feel both could be justified, because they create big holes/rips in his foes, and the more pain they inflict, the better. I could picture him shoving the shotgun up the throat of a demon and screaming "Eat this, you bastard!"

Revolvers on the other hand seem to reflect a desire to look cool. After all, they are cool to reload, cool to fire rapidly, and simply have a stylish design to them. To me, this just doesn't go with a guy who just wants to hulk out and kill demons. They'd seem out of place in the hands of someone who can't even be bothered to make an occasional wisecrack as he tears up his foes.
 

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sageoftruth said:
On the other hand, I'd like to see a weapon made from the body parts of a demon. Maybe give him a flamethrower made from the head of an imp. That fits his style of pragmatism in my opinion.
Well, Doom 64 had the Unmaker aka the Alien Laser, a sort of demonic laser gun made from the bones of demons. It was pretty much just a demon-themed laser gun, but it did have this neat mechanic where you could upgrade it by finding hidden demon keys, turning it from something slightly better than the Plasma Gun into a torrent of destruction that arguably beats the BFG in power and utility.

I don't particularly want to see it return, but I wouldn't mind seeing a return of its upgrade mechanic i.e. you need to go out into the game to find the really well hidden upgrades. Would help if they didn't show up on the map once you get the upgrade that pretty much shows you where all the secrets are. Man, I despised that upgrade.

PapaGreg096 said:
Doesn't he use a double buck shotgun and a chainsaw, the dude has a little style to his weaponary
Yeah, their presence in between the other guns is a little odd[footnote]If I remember right, a Doom 3 datapad actually pokes fun at the 'why did a research base on Mars receive a shipment of chainsaws' thing.[/footnote]. It makes a little bit more sense in Doom 2, since that takes place on Earth, so you could handwave it as Doomguy grabbing whatever guns are on hand. But I suppose you could just chalk both of them down to Rule of Cool and probably to the guys at iD making a reference to Ash Williams of Evil Dead fame.
 

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Chimpzy said:
sageoftruth said:
On the other hand, I'd like to see a weapon made from the body parts of a demon. Maybe give him a flamethrower made from the head of an imp. That fits his style of pragmatism in my opinion.
Well, Doom 64 had the Unmaker aka the Alien Laser, a sort of demonic laser gun made from the bones of demons. It was pretty much just a demon-themed laser gun, but it did have this neat mechanic where you could upgrade it by finding hidden demon keys, turning it from something slightly better than the Plasma Gun into a torrent of destruction that arguably beats the BFG in power and utility.

I don't particularly want to see it return, but I wouldn't mind seeing a return of its upgrade mechanic i.e. you need to go out into the game to find the really well hidden upgrades. Would help if they didn't show up on the map once you get the upgrade that pretty much shows you where all the secrets are. Man, I despised that upgrade.

PapaGreg096 said:
Doesn't he use a double buck shotgun and a chainsaw, the dude has a little style to his weaponary
Yeah, their presence in between the other guns is a little odd[footnote]If I remember right, a Doom 3 datapad actually pokes fun at the 'why did a research base on Mars receive a shipment of chainsaws' thing.[/footnote]. It makes a little bit more sense in Doom 2, since that takes place on Earth, so you could handwave it as Doomguy grabbing whatever guns are on hand. But I suppose you could just chalk both of them down to Rule of Cool and probably to the guys at iD making a reference to Ash Williams of Evil Dead fame.
Wow. I hadn't realized that. The chainsaw and "boomstick" are total Ash Williams icons. Nifty.

Also, thanks for mentioning the Unmaker. If a weapon with that kind of upgrade system were to be brought back, I think it would be neat if the game replaced finding keys with finding a rare demon, whose body parts are then harvested to upgrade it. With the new glory kills system, the simple act of pulling off a glory kill could have Doom Guy pull it apart piece by piece and slap it onto the gun, which would probably be offscreen.
 

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sageoftruth said:
Wow. I hadn't realized that. The chainsaw and "boomstick" are total Ash Williams icons. Nifty.
Yeah, I never made that connection either before I saw the videos on Doom by Errant Signal [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyOF2RsO3ck] and Ahoy [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A4-SVUHQYI]. They talk about what influences went into the making of Doom, amongst other topics. My favorite is probably how they came up with the name: an 80's Tom Cruise movie where he plays a pool hustler.
Anyway, both videos are worth a watch if you're interested in the history of the fps. I linked them above.