If Nintendo Made a New 3D Metroid

[Euryalus]

After the last failure of a game that was Other M how do you think Nintendo should proceed with the series in General. In regards to 3D gameplay?

I'd obviously prefer a return to a Prime style first person shooting platforming puzzler, I am quite the foaming at the mouth fanboy in that regard, but I think Other M style 3rd person shooting could work well.

There were several aspects of the gameplay I did enjoy despite the overall quality of the game being eh. I liked how it was fast paced and fluid. It felt a lot like a 3rd person 3D Zero Mission.

It was great in many ways, but it wasn't used amazingly. The dodge button make things piss easy and the upgrade "gathering" was lame.

I'd like to see this style of gameplay given another chance. Realistically, it's a more faithful transition of strict gameplay from 2D to 3D than Prime is.

TL;DR Where do you think Nintendo should take the franchise, and where do you think they ultimately will end up taking it?

 

[WendelI]

Retro already reclaimed the metroid franchise and said they are making the next one. now if retro studio gets it wrong, they probably should just drop the franchise like everyone is assuming they did with Fzero.

 

[Hazy992]

I'd like to see a 3D Metroid game made by Platinum.

They've already shown they can do fun TPS with Vanquish, and you could have Zero Suit sections that play like a more traditional Hack 'n' Slash.

EDIT: And slightly off-topic but I'd also like to see a 2D Metroid game for the 3DS.

 

[Roxas1359]

I have but one thing: keep Sakamoto away from the story. People end up blaming Team Ninja for everything that was wrong with Other M, but here's the thing Team Ninja didn't make the story. Nope, Sakamoto, the creator of Metroid, decided all the story including making Samus act the way she did in the game and retconning the Prime series altogether. So yeah, give it to Retro and keep Sakamoto far from the story please.

 

[WhiteFangofWhoa]

Retro already reclaimed the metroid franchise and said they are making the next one.

Well, there's the thing I most wanted right from the get-go. Doesn't guarantee success but I'm feeling positive. Ramble time.

While the Prime Trilogy are some of my favourite games, one thing I felt they could not bring across effectively from 2D to 3D was Samus' great agility, since it's annoying to aim in first person while space jumping around like you're on a sugar binge. None of them used the Speed Booster either, which was expanded a great deal in Metroid Fusion with some entire rooms dedicated to Shinesparking strategically in order to get a bonus item (did anyone else here legitimately access the secret message in that one?).

To remedy this, I would like for it to use a third-person perspective instead of first, but greatly improved from the previous game so that Samus can shoot while moving. Don't care about melee, just accurate shooting and movement systems (such as allowing Samus to move faster in Morph Ball to encourage its use for evasion as seen in a certain awesome cutscene in Prime 3). Would also like to see a lot of optional techniques such as the Power Shield moves and Crystal Flash (and Shinespark is technically optional) in Super Metroid. Maybe bring back the Super Missile system from Prime except using it with something that isn't the Power beam creates a different effect for 5 missiles.

Oh, and as non-linear as humanly possible without getting people lost.

 

[StriderShinryu]

I think the first thing they'd need to do would be to let someone else handle the story. Metroid is a formula that can work in many formats so I really don't feel that they need to settle on one specific gameplay style. It's really the handling of the story and character that needs a much steadier hand.

Personally, if I had my choice, I'd go with a new HD 2D Metroid set on an entirely new planet but with ties to elements of the storyline from Prime. Either that or maybe a totally new horror take on the series done in first person and maybe not even starring Samus (think Outlast but set on a space colony where you play a scientist alone with a single Metroid that has escaped captivity).

 

[Hero of Lime]

I would love a third person game that would be in between the flow of the Prime Trilogy, but with a third person perspective to freshen things up a bit.

Retro already reclaimed the metroid franchise and said they are making the next one.

Well, there's the thing I most wanted right from the get-go. Doesn't guarantee success but I'm feeling positive. Ramble time.

While the Prime Trilogy are some of my favourite games, one thing I felt they could not bring across effectively from 2D to 3D was Samus' great agility, since it's annoying to aim in first person while space jumping around like you're on a sugar binge. None of them used the Speed Booster either, which was expanded a great deal in Metroid Fusion with some entire rooms dedicated to Shinesparking strategically in order to get a bonus item (did anyone else here legitimately access the secret message in that one?).

To remedy this, I would like for it to use a third-person perspective instead of first, but greatly improved from the previous game so that Samus can shoot while moving. Don't care about melee, just accurate shooting and movement systems (such as allowing Samus to move faster in Morph Ball to encourage its use for evasion as seen in a certain awesome cutscene in Prime 3). Would also like to see a lot of optional techniques such as the Power Shield moves and Crystal Flash (and Shinespark is technically optional) in Super Metroid. Maybe bring back the Super Missile system from Prime except using it with something that isn't the Power beam creates a different effect for 5 missiles.

Oh, and as non-linear as humanly possible without getting people lost.

Well, you pretty much said what I wanted to, so...yay? Though I wouldn't mind giving Samus a melee move or power up, maybe something to work in conjunction with the grapple beam.

 

[themyrmidon]

As others have stated, it is difficult to suggest anything other than a return to the Prime style. I'd keep it FPS and start making stand alone games that would feel new and fresh, and stay away from the Prime 3 weapon system, but a more expansive variant of the Prime 1/2 power up system.

Also, pipe dream time, put it on PC so that we can use proper controls and have awesome graphics. As much as we all want story and gameplay, Prime 1 had amazing graphics when it came out and they still hold up fairly well today, and the Wii U is just not capable of delivery that same kind of experience.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

Dudes, have you played Metroid Blast on Nintendo Land?

This verifies that creating a new Metroid title is completely within their grasp and once they settle on a theme and story, they are good to go on releasing a new title for the Wii U.

If I were to guess I think they could reboot the original Metroid game with both 3D FPS and 2D platforming sections. They could also have a back story to explain Samus' relation to the Chozo, as well as some segments that you get to play her as a child raised by the Chozo.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

As others have stated, it is difficult to suggest anything other than a return to the Prime style. I'd keep it FPS and start making stand alone games that would feel new and fresh, and stay away from the Prime 3 weapon system, but a more expansive variant of the Prime 1/2 power up system.

Also, pipe dream time, put it on PC so that we can use proper controls and have awesome graphics. As much as we all want story and gameplay, Prime 1 had amazing graphics when it came out and they still hold up fairly well today, and the Wii U is just not capable of delivery that same kind of experience.

Eh are you saying that the Wii U is not capable of Gamecube graphics or are you saying that it can't make good looking games?

 

[loa]

If they retcon the shit out of Other M, sure.
I wish they did what dark souls and, well, super metroid did.
Exploration with no lengthy talk. That was where metroid was at its best.

 

[suitepee7]

they should take it to the PC, because i'm not buying a WiiU but i do love the metroid series...

seriously though, they should also make another 2D game similar to zero mission/fusion on the 3DS. it's been about 10 years since zero mission was released for the gameboy advance, and they remain as some of my favourite games

 

[JettMaverick]

Re-make Super Metroid, with the visuals of Trine/any other of those beautiful 2.5D platformers, and a re-scored soundtrack. I'll buy the absolute crap out of that.

 

[go-10]

for the 3DS they should get Arc Systems to do a 2.5D classic Metroidvania. For the WiiU they should concentrate on a full 3D Batman Arkham City style game

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

 

[MrBaskerville]

I just hope they can get some of the alien wonder of Super Metroid back, the 3D Metroids are too safe in the visual department, i wish they could be more alien and strange.

 

[Nazulu]

They need to focus on trying to get a new big franchise out there. Something that can get as interesting as Metroid or Zelda with it's stages. Metroid was never a main seller any way so they might as well try something else with just as interesting concept. Or are you like me and believe they just can't do it any more?

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

Agreed. And I especially don't want to see any more remakes after that shit Ocarina one either. I still can't believe they changed the character designs and lighting.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

It's due to Samus herself; in Fusion she's now partially Metroid due to a treatment in order to fight off a deadly viral enemy and apparently in Chozo Metroid actually means "Ultimate Warrior."

Anyway, going to the Prime style would be a bad idea. Fact of the matter is that 1st person view is inherently inferior to 3rd person and it was obvious that Retro was running out of ideas for Prime by 3. If anything A) Don't give it to Retro and B) Just do the Other M style because that one had far more potential to tap. The first outing was a bit rough, but there's just so much unrealized potential with it.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I think there shouldn't be another Metroid. Honestly where can they possibly take the story from here that won't feel ridiculously contrived? All the Metroids are supposed to be dead and how can you have a Metroid game without Metroids in it? Oh right you'd have Metroid Prime Hunters and that game was shit.

The metroids are supposed to be all dead every time a new game comes out, they'll just find another way to resurrect them. And Prime Hunters wasn't bad because of the lack of metroids - Prime 2 and 3 only featured them in a couple of areas, in both cases being almost completely irrelevant to the story, and those games were excellent.

Yes and each and every time it feels more and more ridiculously contrived. In Fusion they were cloned from Metroid DNA that they got a hold of somehow. And yes the story didn't revolve around them in Metroid Prime 2 & 3, but they were still present.

 

[Roxas1359]

It's due to Samus herself; in Fusion she's now partially Metroid due to a treatment in order to fight off a deadly viral enemy and apparently in Chozo Metroid actually means "Ultimate Warrior."

Anyway, going to the Prime style would be a bad idea. Fact of the matter is that 1st person view is inherently inferior to 3rd person and it was obvious that Retro was running out of ideas for Prime by 3. If anything A) Don't give it to Retro and B) Just do the Other M style because that one had far more potential to tap. The first outing was a bit rough, but there's just so much unrealized potential with it.

Fusion is the last in the series for Metroid, Sakamoto made that clear that no games would take place after Fusion. It's why Sakamoto placed Other M before Fusion but after Super Metroid. Really if Sakamoto were handling it one would question where he would place it in the canon really. I guess they could try having something before Super Metroid and after Metroid II: Return of Samus, or after Zero Mission but that's all I can think of since Sakamoto retconned the Prime series.