If you could go back in time and remake Avatar, what would you do differently?

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Infernai

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Urghh, don't ask me why I'm doing this..i just am for the sake of some form of weird curiosity and boredom.

ANYWAY, the idea of this is that say you were sent back in time and James Cameron approached you to instead make the movie in whatever way he wished. However, there are some conditions: Firstly, you have to keep the science fiction setting and you have to keep Pandora in there. Other then that, its basically a go nuts spree with what you can change.

Personally, i would have kept the setting,races and the organization there but the plot and characters would be mostly different.

Characters: The most significant change, the lead. Instead of being a crippled former soldier, he would become a mercenary turned criminal called Nero Angelo, who was captured for crimes against humanity. He would be very Reminiscent of the Character of Snake Plissken played by Kurt Russel then anything, a man who cares really only about his own survival and has become completely disillusioned not only with his government but also the human race as a whole. However, he still does have something of a heart and isn't just about to go kill people for fun that much...Aka. Jerk with a heart.

The Na'vi would be kept in, but wouldn't really be there in the same way. Think of them as more reminiscent of the Aliens from Alien or the Predator from Predator. They don't like the lead character, the antagonists or anyone off world and there gonna do whatever they can to make both sides life on the planet a living hell.

The general would mainly be more a support character offering information, along with most of the other company personnel. Presidents just there to be rescued, nothing that big of a change.

The antagonists are now former members of the Organizations military and scientific teams who went renegade. There leader is basically a disgruntled and maddened man, willing to throw lives away and kill his own dog if it looked at him the wrong way. And above all, he's plotting to essentially take over the corporations military, combine it with the prisoners to make a force that would rival earths. Add to this a super weapon that's been developed, and you've got a legitimate threat to the whole of Earth.

Plot: Now with unlimited resources at there disposal, and far away from earth, the R.D.A (I think that was the name of them, to lazy to change it) has become one of the leading manufacturers on the planet. They not only manufacture all manner of space technology, but have expanded to military and even more recently space prisons. The most recent of these is the 'Hades', a prison in orbit around Pandora. Those who have committed grave crimes, or deemed unfit for earth society are transported there. The rules are simple: Once in there, you don't ever come out..and if you are causing trouble there, you are sent to Planet below to be killed by the natives.

All goes well for the R.D.A until a scientist, accompanied by military members and other scientific staff, goes insane on the planets research facility. With a powerful super weapon that is being developed, they demand control of the company in order to gain a military influence strong enough to challenge earths. Add to this that the company head has been captured on a routine inspection, and things look grim.

Enter Nero Angelo, a man sentenced to life imprisonment on the space station but is offered a full pardon for all his crimes if he performs a mission for them: Firstly, to rescue the president of the company. Secondly, to try and secure or destroy the superweapon. And finally, disarm the threat by any means necessary. If not completed within twenty-four hours, the corporation launches an orbital nuclear strike that destroys the facility and most of the surrounding area.
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And...thats basically it for my idea, show me what you can think up.
 

Aur0ra145

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Keep the movie mostly the same but...

I would not call it "Unobtainiam" I mean really, get a better name. Something like, "Viagra: Platinum Edition" would suffice.

Oh, and include Tom Cruise flying an F-14.

Yeah, and they should have just used mustard gas on that treefort rather than their hap hazard assault.

In at least one scene, they should have the camera catch Kevin Costner running over a mountain with a wolf.

And I'd like to see that Fern Gully skater punk, tree spray painter guy in the movie somewhere.
 

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In my version an evil robotics specialist, Dr.Wiley, would create 8 robot masters on Pandora. Each robot has gone rogue and set up his or her own domain on Pandora.

A heroic Navi, affectionately known as "the blue bomber" (for his blue skin) would have to gather up human technology from all the robot masters to finally stop Dr.Wiley.
 

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I would make the humans win in the end.
In fact, I would make humans the good guys.
Take of that what you will.
AC10 said:
In my version an evil robotics specialist, Dr.Wiley would create 8 robot masters on Pandora.
A heroic Navi, affectionately known as "the blue bomber" (for his blue skin) would have to gather up human technology from all the robot masters to finally stop Dr.Wiley.
My God, this is the most ORIGINAL set-up EVER!
 

Omikron009

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The humans would win. They wouldn't make every stupid villain mistake in the book, and they would win. I was rooting for them the entire time.
 

Infernai

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AC10 said:
In my version an evil robotics specialist, Dr.Wiley, would create 8 robot masters on Pandora.
A heroic Navi, affectionately known as "the blue bomber" (for his blue skin) would have to gather up human technology from all the robot masters to finally stop Dr.Wiley.
....Why does that sound familiar...
 

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Add a hardcore sex scene, so there'd be less extremely young, extremely annoying children in the theater.
 

Infernai

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God said:
More lasers. It needs more lasers.
Good Ol' Lasers.

WanderFreak said:
3 hours of Quaritch raping things.

It just seems natural.

"I will not be able to protect all of you. What I can promise you is this: I WILL rape all of you."
So...basically "Caligula" in space? xD
 

Enigma6667

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I'd actually make it good. SHA-BOOSH!

Real answer:
More action sequences. The action sequences were one of the best parts of the film, but there was sadly less of that, and more of the two unlikeable dildos trying to make character development that just wasn't interesting.

No Sigourney Weaver or Michelle Rodriguez. Weaver is a great actress and all (Nuke the site from orbit! It's the only way to be sure.), but she was very mis-cast in this film. I felt like she was only there because she was also in Aliens, another Cameron film. Same goes for Michelle Rodriguez, except unlike Weaver, she's not a good actress, and her character was pretty much useless. So I'd re-cast Weaver's character, and get rid of Rodriguez's character.

Add elements that differentiate itself from it's borrowed elements. I mean, I don't mind a film that borrows heavily from something that was successful, only if they manage to present it in new and interesting ways. They half got it right, since they made some jaw-dropping special effects, but the writing was just plain bad. Not awful, but not Oscar-worthy (Which is odd seeing it was nominated for an Oscar). It just SCREAMED Dances With Wolves and Pochahontas without feeling like it was a different film. What I'd do is that, I'd change some small elements that made a big difference, like the whole "nature" thing. I mean, they were almost the exact same thing as Native americans that it wasn't funny, and felt rather pathetic in how no thought was put into their beliefs. Why not just give them the same intentions as the prawns in District 9. They're simply misunderstood, yet unique. So it would just be about the humans fucking up the alien planet for the mineral, and they'd be destroying forests and shit, only this time, the aliens won't exactly act incredibly annoying and preachy, and won't be complete Native American rip-offs.

Make it more subtle. The movie is about as subtle as a train-wreck on top of an airport. I can see that the film was trying to make a point, which I can totally get, but it all felt soo preachy. For starters: The mineral. Unobtainium is really the best thing Cameron could come up with? The apparent "symbolism" is so. Fucking. Obvious. A five year-old can get it. Literally, my five-year old cousin was able to get it. Then there's the preachy "save the rainforests" garbage. I'd keep the message there, I guess, but tone down the preachiness by a landslide to make it tolerable.

And finally, get rid of the Ewokism. The fact that the humans with helicopters and shit were defeated by a bunch of blue tribal people with spears and arrows really required a suspension of logic. How about having a scene where the Jake, Neytiri, and the Na'Vi would steal a bunch of stuff from the enemies from an old abandoned base that contained old out-dated guns and mech-suits. That way, the Na'vi would still have a fighting chance, and it'd be more realistic.

tl;dr - I'd change a lot of shit that didn't work. The. End.
 

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I would follow the original script. Before it got turned into the rubbish it was released as. You where both sides had reasonable characters, where going native wasnt this unthought of idea, where all the characters had reasonable personalities and acted like human beings rather than people trying to simply trope. Oh and have people react reasonable to situations.
 

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DJmagma said:
MAKE THE ALIENS LOOK LIKE ALIENS, NOT SMUFS.
Congratulations. That is the stupidest thing I've ever read on The Escapist.

OT: Let Quarritch live and it'd be nice if the Na'vi weren't Mary-Sues. Otherwise, I enjoyed it.