IGN wades back into the Mass Effect 3 scandal.

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Saviordd1

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Hey, remember Mass Effect 3? Of course you do, it was inescapable for months.

Well finally when things seem to have shut up IGN decided that they would wade back into the (non-existent) fray with an oddball theory of theirs as to why most people didn't like the endings.

[link]http://www.ign.com/blogs/jackfuller/2013/08/05/the-real-reason-you-hated-the-ending-to-mass-effect-3/[/link]

I personally found the article ridiculous and actually insulting, seeming that he was implying we couldn't deal with a sad ending. (Despite the fact I think a lot of people expected an unhappy ending to the cthulu robot invasion).

What does the Escapist think?
 

LetalisK

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Saviordd1 said:
Hey, remember Mass Effect 3? Of course you do, it is inescapable for going on years now.
Fixed that for you. :D

And yes, that article is pretty presumptuous. There are some people that don't like the endings because there really isn't a happy ending, but most of the grief over the endings is because they weren't even well done for what they were supposed to be. I didn't mind the endings too much and even I know they were shit.
 

Andy Shandy

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Look, I'm not a particularly big fan of IGN but you're being disingenuous when you say they wrote this. It wasn't them at all, it was a blogger that posted it on the blog section of their site.
 

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Mass Effect 3's ending was downright insulting. Fortunately everything leading up to that ending is still a damned fun time, but why people keep trying to defend the ending as though it were some sort of sacred text or something I'll never understand.

Just leave it be. Personally I'd much rather look back at the series as a whole than mull over the negatives, as the good really does outweigh the bad in my mind.

I've pretty much made up my own ending in my mind anyway. It's got a satisfying conclusion and everything!
 

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Meh, I'm more comfortable here with all the hate on current popular games, like Bioshock: Infinite and The Last of Us.

You've served your purpose well, ME3 hate, but it's time for us to part ways.
 

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It's an interesting article but flawed by the fact that in none of the shipped endings did Shepard fail.

Shepard may have died but the ultimate goal of stopping the Reapers was achieved.

Death doesn't equal failure in this case.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Meh, I'm more comfortable here with all the hate on current popular games, like Bioshock: Infinite and The Last of Us.

You've served your purpose well, ME3 hate, but it's time for us to part ways.
Huh, so hating those 2 is the in thing right now? I'll settle with being lame then, I like those games.
 

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Just to clear that article really isn't IGN
Andy Shandy said:
Look, I'm not a particularly big fan of IGN but you're being disingenuous when you say they wrote this. It wasn't them at all, it was a blogger that posted it on the blog section of their site.
^^^This^^^

Also,

I'm rather surprised he's even discussing this now. What's left to talk about? The entire debacle surrounding this whole issue felt (to me at least), like its run more than it's fair share of course and then some. That being said this is just one man's perspective and opinion on the ending. I don't think it helps that because of the way he's written this article he's dismissed a lot of the detractors of the ending and many of the very well documented and extremely valid arguments made against the ending as well as the people who have made them (like so many others have done before), as people who are too stupid or who are not capable of comprehending the "true" meaning of ending and in the process protraying himself as being a pretentious jerk.

I will admit that I do in fact agree with one part of his argument, particularly when he states that "...the player not only doesn?t achieve their goal, but also fails in living up to a persona that they have built up during their play through.". I concur that the player may not complete their goal however, where I completely disagree with him is that the player themselves are never able to "achieve their goal" NOT because of some short disability on the player's part but rather BioWare's as they never give the player the opportunity to achieve the goal of defeating the Reapers. IMHO the original endings are so convoluted, pretentious, contrived, non-sensical and so poorly written that they effectively toss many elements of the established lore completely out the window it would be hard for ANY player to feel a sense of accomplishment or achievement when BioWare has effectively thrown all of the choices that the player has made throughout the series under the bus in favor of what Casey Hudson and Mac Walters had planned for the ending.

Again IMHO, Mass Effect 3's ending is by far, without a shadow of a doubt the worst conclusion to any story (regardless of medium or genre), that I've ever seen and it should be held up on a podium as an example of exactly how NOT to conclude any story.

When games like Mass Effect come along and provide the illusion of choice to the player and then never ultimately deliver on the promise of having those choices and consequnces that actually matter, will undoubtedly result in a agitated audience. It's like saying you sell vanilla, chocolate and strawberry when in reality all you have is vanilla.

No pun intended but Mass Effect 3 was really the... Catalyst for me (pun totally intended!), because as a huge fan of the ME franchise to watch something you love completely explode from the inside out because of the very people who created it is extremely dissappointing to say the least.

Now can we FINALLY be done with Mass Effect 3 already?

-Hawk
 

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Does anyone else wish controversies (or whatever you call this) had a use-by date?

So after, say, six months everyone just agrees that it's over and sticks a fork in it?

But no, instead it just keeps coming back like a bad smell.

Oh, and whoever wrote that is full o' shit. Usually I'd just say they're wrong, but the "this is the the real reason because I understand your opinion better than you do" angle takes it to up to full o' shit level.

No, that wasn't why it was hated. This was covered in excruciating detail, y'know, a year and a half ago.
 

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I can get somewhat prominently featured on IGN by saying that the real reason is that it was not a happy ending? That's not exactly a hypothesis that strikes me as particularly new or original, if I recall correctly.

Other than that, some claims about the game made in this article that seem pretty odd to me. "There is no decision available to the player where the Reapers are wiped out, with the rest of the galaxy remaining intact."

If "intact" is the word this guy uses to describe the state of the galaxy prior to the ending, better not buy stuff on ebay from him...
 

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Urg, this again. And it's the condecending "I know what you REALLY think" shit we saw a billion times. I really don't see why this is worth discussing again.

OP should probably amend that this isn't IGN, it's an anonymous blogger who doesn't any more credibility then somebody in the YouTube comments section (or any of us, for that matter).
 

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Phrozenflame500 said:
Urg, this again. And it's the condecending "I know what you REALLY think" shit we saw a billion times. I really don't see why this is worth discussing again.

OP should probably amend that this isn't IGN, it's an anonymous blogger who doesn't any more credibility then somebody in the YouTube comments section (or any of us, for that matter).
So in other words, no better than half the stuff the actual "journlists" at IGN write. :D

OT:
 

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Stuff like this is a great argument on why used games suck. Sure you can get ME3 and the whole series dirt cheap right now. But if you want talk about the game, good luck. Those of us that paid the early adopters tax got to ***** about the game in its prime. Now people saying "hey how about that ending, crazy huh?" just seem like the kid at school that tried too hard to fit in.

Pretty much all approaches to ending have been explored at this point, and the "just not smart enough to see the ending for what it is" is probably the most trite of them all.
 

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Aaaah, pseudo-psychology. There were plenty of people making this claim back when the controversy was at its peak: that people only disliked it because it wasn't a glorious and total victory. I completely disagreed then, and I still do now; the only reason I didn't hate the ending was because it was bittersweet, or at least tried to be.

Also:
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It'd be great if we could just get a thread of that. Notwithstanding low content .
 

gigastar

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Its a slow news week, and i guess IGN needs to meet its quota of articles.

Hell, we recently got the Daily Gallery.
 

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This guy is talking out of his ass. I don't know ANYONE who expected a storybook ending. Hell, i personally expected it to have more of a Mega Man Zero Elf War ending, which for those of you who didn't follow that spin-off stated that 60% of all humans and 90% of all Reploids died in that war. What disappointed me about the Mass Effect 3 ending was that made almost everything that you achieved in game itself feel meaningless, especially since the survival of the Mass Relays relying on your EMS seems totally fucking arbitrary. We were pissed off because the ending felt cheap and rushed, not just because Shepard dies in every ending but one
 

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Zeckt said:
Casual Shinji said:
Meh, I'm more comfortable here with all the hate on current popular games, like Bioshock: Infinite and The Last of Us.

You've served your purpose well, ME3 hate, but it's time for us to part ways.
Huh, so hating those 2 is the in thing right now? I'll settle with being lame then, I like those games.
I thought the cool thing to do right now was hate on Bioshock Infinite, because it wasn't The Last of Us, and blahblahblah AI companion reasons, or maybe that was last week. I don't know why people would be hating on The Last of Us now, I've not been reading any of those stories. I wonder what game will be next. GTA V may well be a worthy candidate...