Ignorance from non-gamers

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Glamorgan

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Okay, we've all seen it. Non gamers have incredibly low opinions of gamers. Not only that, but occasionally, they assume they know a lot about games. So, what is your best, or worst, experience with an ignorant non gamer?

EDIT: Yes, this is just my opinion, okay? I know that some people out there may have liked this game, so I'm sorry.
EDIT 2: Does anyone want to take a crack at answering the question, instead of just raging at Carnival? Actually, raging is pretty fun. In that case, go ahead.
<spoiler=This is mine> So, you may have heard of the game Carnival Games [http://www.amazon.com/Carnival-Games-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000QD7BBM/ref=pd_ts_vg_34?ie=UTF8&s=videogames]. If not, you are lucky. It is appallingly awful, possibly the worst game ever made. Just look up reviews.
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Believe me now?
Good. Well, I saw <a http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102654-McDonalds-Attacked-For-Horrifying-Marvel-Happy-Meals>that news article about McDonalds toys, and I saw a link to Carnival. I clicked on it, trying to remember what it was. Then I remembered, and freaked, when I saw a 4 star rating.
Yeah. 4 stars. So I looked at the reviews, and I saw this.

<spoiler=The Review> Carnival Games is the type of game that everyone should have for their Wii. It's great for solo play, or multi-player fun, and never becomes boring, with more than 25 games to choose from. It's extremely easy to "pick up and play" for all ages, and it's good clean fun. The game really represents a carnival in every way possible, starting with the perfectly accurate games (and gameplay), the bright colors, the chatty emcee's, the wandering carnival-goers who walk past you or play games beside you, and even the carnival music playing softly in the background. You can almost smell the cotton candy!
What really makes this game shine is how well designed all the carnival games are. They work very well with the wii-mote, and rarely miss a beat.

Here are some of the highlights of the 25+ games included on this disc:

ALLEY BALL: This game is identical to a favorite game of many called "Skee-Ball". It is definitely one of the best games on here. It feels extremely realistic, the way you use the wii-mote to kind of throw the ball (not swing back & roll like bowling, but rather kind of flinging it up on the 'alley' like you really do in skee-ball). It's sharp and accurate, and hard to stop playing!

SPILLED MILK: This one has you throwing a ball at a stack of 3 milk bottles. It somewhat lacks the realism of Alley Ball, but it still is quite fun. It has you hold your wii-mote as if it's a ball, and you do an overhand throw to try to knock down the bottles. Fortunately it has a little marking on the screen to show where you will hit before you throw.

BALLOON DARTS: One of my favorites. This game has a corkboard covered with balloons that you must throw darts at to pop. You hold your wii-mote as if it's a dart (really!) and do a short, abrupt forward lunge with it as if you are throwing a dart. The accuracy on this game is amazing. I hit the small balloons every time! In fact, once you win this game a number of times, you will open a "super" version of this game that you can also play where it has a whole wall of balloons to pop in about 30 seconds.

SHOOTING GALLERY: This is another favorite. A perfect representation of the duck shooting game we all love at carnivals. The little yellow ducks are scrolling by, and you have to use your wii-mote like a toy gun to shoot them (aiming for the target on their belly will net you even more points). The accuracy of this game is perfect.

HOOPS: This game has a basketball hoop in front of you, and you need to use your wii-mote as if it's a basketball, using an overhand throw to get the ball in the basket. What really amazes me on this game is how once you throw the ball, it shows you where it will land, and you have a chance to twist the wii-mote to make it more likely to go in the basket! You have to be quick though! But this increases the fun factor enormously since you have such great control over the ball.

SHOOT FOR THE STARS: This game was never a favorite of mine in carnivals, and isnt here either but I wanted to at least mention it for those who like this popular game. You stand in front of a star target and have to rapid-fire 300 shots to shoot away the star. It's perfectly accurate (can you hold steady enough for 300 shots?), and I usually end up with about 85% without trying too hard.

HOLE IN ONE: I have not played this game yet, but the manual claims it is a miniature golf game that gives you 3 chances to putt the ball, but each time you do, the hole moves. Sounds fun though, as I love golf.

RING TOSS: This is yet another favorite of mine. It has a large area of bottles arranged in a square, and you have to toss rings in hopes of landing one directly on a bottle. You hold your wii-mote kind of frisbee-style and fling your ring out towards the bottles. It is quite accurate and very fun. It looks and plays identical to the one you see at carnivals.

DAY AT THE RACES: This is an odd take on horse racing. In order to get your horses to run, you have to roll balls into holes at the end of an alley (somewhat like skee-ball) as quickly as possible. The difference here is that there are just several holes on a flat surface, but they have different point values for different holes. The higher your points, the faster the horse goes. It's quite fun though! And accurate too.

COLLECTION PLATE: I wouldnt say this is a favorite of mine as I am no good at it but I believe with practice it will be a lot more fun for me. This game has a platform of several plates at different heights, and you have to toss coins to land on them. You hold your wii-mote as if it's a coin, and kind of toss it outward. My problem is I use to much strength and the coin goes flying to who-knows-where. Those with more finesse would surely do better than me at this game! It's cute and pretty accurate in my opinion.

Those are the highlights of Carnival Games. The other titles included in it are: The Great Swami, Frog Leap, Bowler Coaster, Meter-O-Love, Pigskin Pass, Buckets Of Fun, Going Nuts, Clown Splash, Ka-Pow, Prize Claw, Nerves Of Steel, Lucky Cups, Dunk Tank, and Push-A-Prize. Plus you can open a few alternate takes of some games once you reach certain goals.

And lastly, for those of you who love character customization, you get a little person that represents you in the game, and you can change his/her hair, clothes, face, accessories, etc to your liking. You will also acquire more items for your person by either winning them in games or buying them with tickets. And you can also win "virtual prizes" in games (stuffed animals, toy cars, etc) but these are only a picture on your screen. Nothing special there.

In summary, Carnival Games is a something-for-everyone game that has lasting appeal and tons of variety. Best of all, it gets you off the couch and playing like you're really at the carnival! Dont forget the corn dogs!
Yeah. I was a little shocked too. This was either from a non gamer, or a biased review.
<spoiler=Now look at the responses>
Thank you for the excellent review. Think I'll go out and buy it for my nephews so I can play the games.
Thank you for such a fantastic review. We just got a Wii for Christmas and I was not sure if I wanted to invest and anymore games just yet. However, my husband told me to buy this game for the kids because "a guy" told him his kid liked it. I was skeptical. After reading your review I think it does sound like good clean fun! Can you recommend any others???
Only one person questioned the validity of this review. Everyone else bought it for their nieces and nephews, and now wonders why they hate them.
 

Judgement101

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I hate when non-gamers review games. It boils down to- "If it has small, cute, fuzzy animals then its a 10/10, if it doesn't 2/10"
 

Sacman

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so they liked the game... I don't see what's the problem here...
 

Motiv_

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Believe it or not, he/she might not be a non gamer, or a troll, or of questionable mental status. You see, this is where we reach what's so awesome and so irritating about the internet. No matter where you look, there's gonna be someone who disagrees with you.

Even if you and 90% of the gaming populace think it is the worst game ever, there's going to be someone who absolutely loves it and will refuse to listen to your opinion. If you want proof of my theory, remember that there ARE Bieber fans out there.

If you believe that the game is so bad, then write your own review. It's that simple. Everyone can see both your opinions on the games, and make up their own minds.
 

Kiereek

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It almost seems like this is a paid review, as in the company paid this person to write favorably about their game. Unfortunatly, many people will listen.
 

Jake the Snake

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The review sounds like its from some family website. I'm sure in the context of 5 year olds, Carnival Games is a wonderful activity. Then again in the context of five year olds, picking your nose and showing everyone your penis is also a wonderful activity...
 

olendvcook

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My nephews play that game all the time. I tried it once, not my cup of tea but it was alright.
 

Okuu_Fusion

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I've played Carnival games, forced to, since I was tasked with helping my younger cousin play it... Its shit... But I understand what the reviewer was going for...

Most young kids would like this game, since their brains are not fully developed yet, and compared to other shovelware, this one was okay... the reviewer probably thought this as well, and decided to give it a good review...

Better this game, then any hardcore wii games... A little kid my not be able to get the hang of those games, and end up getting turned off by games altogether... By playing Carnival games, as they grow, they will slowly learn whats good and not good in gaming... and hopefully guide their brain dead parents into getting them actual good games...

Although, If I had kids, that game would never set foot in my house...
 

BRMXJzjsoawk321

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Actually my real life gamer friends are more ignorant than non-gamers I've met.

At freshmen orientation, all the guys went into a corner to talk about how awesome Modern Warfare 2 is and all the girls gathered around me to ask what I did. Play video games, of course. The only games they had ever played were Rock Band and Farmville.

They didn't have a bad opinion of me but they didn't talk to me the rest of the day. :I

My RL friends think that Left 4 Dead and Far Cry are generic zombie games..
 

Alon Shechter

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my Non-gamer "friends" keep calling me a nerd, a stupid guy and an idiot at the same time.
Ever since then I don't care about them.
 

Stickwell

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Just because I screamed at some punk ass kids on Halo ONCE, all I ever do from now on according to everyone else is "Scream at kids on the interwebs"...
I hate people sometimes :(
 

Woodsey

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Yeah, well...

Someone's got to persuade people to buy all the shovelware on the Wii; that's why there's so much of it.

And honestly, ignorance from actual gamers is more annoying:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.226067-PC-gaming-on-its-deathbed
 

nelsonr100

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Ugh, worst experience is living with 2 snobby non gamers (I am unfortunately in that situation right now!!) who declare gaming as a waste of time and anti social experience. Just so annoying and ignorant
 

Crispee

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I don't see the ignorance, all it is is a person's opinion on the game, just liking shovelware doesn't make them ignorant. After all some people might find it fun, that's why lots of people devote their time to knitting.
 

Kurokami

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SlainPwner666 said:
Believe it or not, he/she might not be a non gamer, or a troll, or of questionable mental status. You see, this is where we reach what's so awesome and so irritating about the internet. No matter where you look, there's gonna be someone who disagrees with you.
I beg to differ.

Sorry.