I'm not in love with this girl. THANK GOD!

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TheDrunkNinja

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Just a story I wanted to share; possible discussion value at bottom:

I've been on such a high the whole day. A good friend of mine and I just found out something about ourselves today. I've been friends with this girl for about two years now, and it's the type of relationship that has been teetering in and out of the friend-zone for a while now. We have so much in common, it's ridiculous, and there's never an awkward moment between us. We're both very comfortable with each other, and I'm amazed we've gotten so close in such a short span of time. I find her very pretty, though that doesn't always factor when I think about dating someone. Honestly, I won't hesitate to say that she is truly wonderful and lovely to me.

Normally, I'm content with keeping it a "just friends" status, but for the past year, we've been both been doing a sort of flirt-but-kind-of-joking kind of thing. It's gotten on the rest of our friends nerves to the point where they've blatantly asked on many occasions why we haven't started dating each other yet. We've both brought this up before, but it never really went anywhere. Even so, we've had moments of personal intimacy, and we've come very close to kissing on a few rare occasions. It got to the point where she was on my mind constantly, but I was still so unsure of my feelings toward her.

Despite our great compatibility, there was always just one thing about her that I couldn't get over. I'm not saying she needs to be perfect. I mean, this one thing was pretty huge and something I would have to live with if we started a relationship. Interestingly enough, we had a serious discussion about our relationship and the next level in it. We both admitted that we really like and care about one another. It started getting rather affectionate, and we both paused with a moment of thought. But then, she broke the silence with "Well, I feel like I would have asked you out a long time ago, but there's just... something about you that's been holding me back. It's just one thing..."

Immediately, I felt relieved, and I told her I was feeling the same thing, both being cautious in what we say as not to reveal our one things. We eventually agreed we should get both our problems out in the open and try to see if they are something we can work on together. So we decided to say our one things at the same time. We counted to three... and we said:

Her: "You're too overweight for me."
Me: "You're so judgmental about appearances."

We stop. It takes a moment, but the realization hits us both. Her eyes widen with horror and embarrassment, and I just start laughing hysterically. For the first time in a year, I feel completely free and relieved. Immediately, any feelings of attraction or infatuation are expelled like a cancer. Just knowing the amount of time and effort I would have wasted on this girl put the biggest smile on my face when I knew I could avoid all of it. After we said it, I tried to console her by telling her that, "It's okay," but she left quickly without saying much more, still baring that horrific look.

Right now, I was told by her best friend that she's still embarrassed and kind of angry about what happened, saying she feels like I "tricked" her, even though I have no clue how. I'm not worried. I know her too well, and I don't have any qualms about staying friends and never being anything more. All I can say, is I dodged a bullet, and I am perfectly content with that.

Not sure how this can be discussed, but I just had to share this. I feel fantastic. The only thing I can think of is asking if anyone else ever "dodged a bullet" in your love life? But me? I'm having a great day, thank you. :D
 

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Well played response, sir, this is a fresh breath of air from the bombardment of Forever Alones.
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
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Well played response, sir, this is a fresh breath of air from the bombardment of Forever Alones.
Heh, why thank you. We'll be fine though. I'll call her in a few days, and I knew we can at least still be friends with one another.
 

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Well, I got away from a relationship that was steadfastly sapping all maturity from both me and the girl I was with. She likes goofy, buffoon types, and that's just not me---but I AM very anxious to please, so I kept trying to adjust myself to her tastes and ended up making a wreck of my personality. So I'd every now and then just explode and tear into her verbally, and then she'd cry, and I'd be horrified and quit ranting and apologize. It basically went in that circle over and over until I ended it.
 

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I want to know how the hell you "tricked" her when she's the one being a shallow ***** and you have a genuine concern about her behavior... I dated someone who was really judgmental like that before and I constantly wanted to smack him so he'd shut up. He'd pass judgments on people he didn't even know, just people standing around Best Buy or whatever. It pissed me off so bad. Good job at dodging that one!
 
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That's actually really similar to a situation I have with a friend, right down to the reasons we won't go into a relationship. She just bitches about people constantly, including me right to my face about my looks.

I'm not sure when I really decided I definitely didn't want to get in a relationship with her but I'm pretty sure that it was something to do with her judgementalness (not a word). Luckily we didn't have the awkward moment that you had with your friend.
 

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Well played. Just well played.
As for me, I've I'm in a 4 almost 5 year relationship with a girl, even though we both said we thought we wouldn't last a week with each other.

So no.. I basically took a machine-gun to the face.
 
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You know OP...I think the reason she feels "tricked" might be because you laughed after. She might have the impression that you set her up for that, and that this whole thing was some scheme against her. So yeah, that's just my theory.

Don't get me wrong, I laughed too when I saw that. But laughing like that may have sent the wrong idea. :p

TheDrunkNinja said:
The only thing I can think of is asking if anyone else ever "dodged a bullet" in your love life? But me? I'm having a great day, thank you. :D
Eh.....Kinda, maybe?

I was in College, and was just a bit desperate. So I was thinking of asking out this one girl that I was friends with (I kinda liked her, but in hindsight, not in that way). ...And just as I'm thinking "I wonder how the hell I'm supposed to pull this off." ...I walk into the gaming club, and see her all snuggly with one of my good friends. I was a bit upset, but got over it by the end of the day.

Then, months later, I realized she was a super-super-super perfectionist. She broke down twice in class over minor stuff, and was totally unreasonable. I tried to help, she didn't want any. Later, I saw her in the gaming club, and my friend (her BF) had somehow managed to totally calm her down. I was amazed.

Along with a bunch of other stuff, I can definitely see that she was NOT my type. It wouldn't have worked out at all for me. AT ALL. And to this day, I am amazed at how well she and her BF (now fiance) get along.
 

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There were a few toxic individuals that I found myself hanging around with when I was younger and stupid. I'm so glad that I didn't end up with them, because they were exploitive, used people as play-things, and made terrible choices that would have dragged me down.

It wasn't all bad, though. I learned how to avoid terrible people who aren't worth my time(mostly).
 

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usmarine4160 said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
Heh, why thank you. We'll be fine though. I'll call her in a few days, and I knew we can at least still be friends with one another.
Don't count on it, after you tricked her and all
Rin Little said:
I want to know how the hell you "tricked" her when she's the one being a shallow ***** and you have a genuine concern about her behavior... I dated someone who was really judgmental like that before and I constantly wanted to smack him so he'd shut up. He'd pass judgments on people he didn't even know, just people standing around Best Buy or whatever. It pissed me off so bad. Good job at dodging that one!
I'm just such a crafty bastard, apparently even I don't know it. :p
 

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Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
 

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aegix drakan said:
You know OP...I think the reason she feels "tricked" might be because you laughed after. She might have the impression that you set her up for that, and that this whole thing was some scheme against her. So yeah, that's just my theory.

Don't get me wrong, I laughed too when I saw that. But laughing like that may have sent the wrong idea. :p
Yeah, the thought crossed my mind as well. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the whole reason, but honestly, I could tell by the look on her face that she knew what she had just done. She knew the hole she dug herself.

Her/my friend keeps telling me that she's been using the word "embarrassed" more than "angry", so I'm under the impression that the anger part is more irrational because she doesn't want to blame herself even though she knows it's all on her. I know her well enough to be confident in that statement. And she knows me, too. I would at least hope she would know that I was laughing at what was said and not at her.
 

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RagTagBand said:
Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
Give this man a cookie - this is exactly the sentiment i wanted to get across.

People have the right to determine what they do and do not find attractive. Anyone can become emotionally attached to anyone else, but if there isn't sexual attraction there for whatever reason, it's just really close friendship, or as this chap put it, a 'platonic relationship'.

You might be really close to your best mate, for example, but because he's male and you're not gay nothing can possibly come of it. Likewise, i could find someone to be the most charming woman in the world and our personalities could totally click, but that doesn't mean i'd find her physically attractive as well. She might be a smoker or an alcoholic, things like that which typically would very much turn me off from having a relationship with her. Are you suggesting that we can't get close to people without having the prefix of "this must end in a relationship"? I find that a bit hard to believe.

Rin Little said:
I want to know how the hell you "tricked" her when she's the one being a shallow ***** and you have a genuine concern about her behavior... I dated someone who was really judgmental like that before and I constantly wanted to smack him so he'd shut up. He'd pass judgments on people he didn't even know, just people standing around Best Buy or whatever. It pissed me off so bad. Good job at dodging that one!
Woah. Hold up a second, shallow *****? Seriously?

Do you not think that's an incredibly vicious label? Just because she views appearance as an important part of sexual attraction? Wow. I'm quite literally lost for words.

Clearly she's not a "shallow *****", because she actually took the time to get to know the OP - if she truly only judged people on their appearances alone, she wouldn't have even given him the time of day, let alone become as close to him as she is. Do you see how she's different to the guy who "passed judgements on people he didn't even know" that you speak of? I understand you're talking from bad past experiences, but that doesn't give you the right to act like a little Hitler and slag off people because they have preferences about what they look for in a romantic partner.

Lastly, i'd like to reiterate what RagTagBand said and say that weight is something that the OP could change, if he really wanted. It's not like it's something unfixable, like being too tall or too short. If he put the effort in, ate better, went to the gym i'm sure he could win her over. At the very least, even if he couldn't lose as much weight as she'd like i'm sure she'd notice the amount of effort he'd be putting in and believe me that always counts for something.
 

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Yeah... I would have just dropped a few pounds.

RagTagBand said:
Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
Agreed.

Rin Little said:
I want to know how the hell you "tricked" her when she's the one being a shallow ***** and you have a genuine concern about her behavior... I dated someone who was really judgmental like that before and I constantly wanted to smack him so he'd shut up. He'd pass judgments on people he didn't even know, just people standing around Best Buy or whatever. It pissed me off so bad. Good job at dodging that one!
People don't want to go out with people they're not physically attracted too - that's not really being a "shallow *****".
 

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I dodged quite the bullet my first year of high school. Near the end of the year, I had a small crush on a girl. Long story short, by buddy asked her out and was rejected, so she was off limits for me. Skip forward a few years, I'm best friends with both of them. Had I actually asked this girl out, she would have said yes (She has said she liked me at the time) and I would have had an absolutely terrible relationship. We'd be horrific as partners, but we're perfect friends.
 

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You didn't dodge a bullet. Her gun was not loaded to begin with.

I was going to continue on about what I think about this girl, but I don't know her, so I wont bother. What I do know, having talked to my sister about this sort of thing, is that when a girl is judgmental about appearances (like my sister is) she will decide very quickly whether or not she can deal with a man's shortcomings. She dated an overweight guy very seriously for a while, and she dated a bald guy briefly. She has huge hangups about dating short guys. Im not sure what this all means, really. I guess when a girl makes up her mind, she sets up mental barriers that can't be overcome.

I suppose I should gloss over the whole idea of her getting angry with you. Nice girl or not, a lot of girls don't like to have their flaws pointed out. The fact that your statements coincided is just fodder for her to reflect on and find an excuse to think that her flaw is not her fault. Just human nature I guess.

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On another note, this thread is full of sour grapes, and almost no bullet dodging. I have a sour grapes story myself. There was a girl that was amazingly attractive that I was friends with in high school. I was a total wuss back then, and couldn't even come close to pulling the trigger. Eventually when we were in her room alone one night she gave me a golden opportunity, but I choked. Soon after, she started dating another dude. When they broke up he told me that she gave him syphilis and I believed him. It was the only solace I could take in missing my shot. Later on I realized what a pathological liar the guy was, and how there was no chance what he said was true.
 

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Gralian said:
If she doesn't accept him how he is now then why would she accept him if he did decide to get slimmer or whatever? It's shallow to expect someone to change something as mundane as appearance in order for you to be attracted to them when you've known them for a long time and like you're personality. And you're pretty much implying that being overweight, no matter how mild or severe, automatically bars someone from being attractive.