Intro into to Comics and Graphic Novels

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Whytewulf

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If you were to introduce someone new to Comics and/or Graphic Novels, what would you start them with? Assuming nothing too crazy and nothing too childish. What would you put together as an intro package? I am looking for both myself and a friend, who both want to try a new medium. I am used to reading Fiction, especially high fantasy and some sci-fi. Thanks for any advice.
 

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It depends what you like - fiction, fantasy and scifi are fairly broad genres, maybe you could be more specific? What are your favourite books, TV series and movies?

There's really no single answer for everyone - I've introduced people to comics with titles ranging from Preacher, to Strangers in Paradise, to Bone - and that's without even getting into the standards.
 

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I enjoy things like the Night Angel Trilogy, Belgariad, Salvatore, Game of Thrones, for books. Person of Interest, Justified, Elementary for TV, movies, all the superhero ones (well the good ones haha), LOTR, etc. but I don't suspect that's going to drive much in the comic space. I may just pick up some old Avengers #1 re-prints or something in the nature.
 

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One thing I'd warn you then (if you've genuinely not read many comics before) is that serialized team superhero books tend to have a distinct soap opera flavour - it's just the nature of ongoing serialized fiction with large casts. There are some that avoid that, either because they're deconstructions (like Watchmen) or reinventions (like The Invisibles) or just side-books (like Planetary). I'm a fan of the genre myself (my avatar probably gives that away), but I've found that a lot of people are surprised when they get into it via TV and movie adaptations.

Based on your TV bits: If you're into crime stories, I'd recommend Ed Brubaker's Criminal, Fatal, and Scene of the Crime.

For Fantasy, Sandman is classic and lots of people like Fables. And Saga is a brilliant current title. There's also a lot of great SF/F work in French comics and manga - are you looking for recs there too?
 

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Raikas said:
One thing I'd warn you then (if you've genuinely not read many comics before) is that serialized team superhero books tend to have a distinct soap opera flavour - it's just the nature of ongoing serialized fiction with large casts. There are some that avoid that, either because they're deconstructions (like Watchmen) or reinventions (like The Invisibles) or just side-books (like Planetary). I'm a fan of the genre myself (my avatar probably gives that away), but I've found that a lot of people are surprised when they get into it via TV and movie adaptations.

Based on your TV bits: If you're into crime stories, I'd recommend Ed Brubaker's Criminal, Fatal, and Scene of the Crime.

For Fantasy, Sandman is classic and lots of people like Fables. And Saga is a brilliant current title. There's also a lot of great SF/F work in French comics and manga - are you looking for recs there too?
Good stuff. Some other pieces of advice off the top of my head:

1. I'd recommend keeping an open mind to the world outside Marvel and DC superheroes, I enjoy some of these and obviously so do a lot of other people, but there are smaller publishers like Dark Horse and Dynamite who make neat stuff in other genres.

2. Be aware that particularly for modern superhero comics, there's a lot of backstory and a lot of crossover between books, it may be hard to follow a story sometimes reading just one series.

3. Try international. The more contained format of mangas and manhwas leads many people to prefer them over western comics. To say nothing of British comics like 2000 AD, which most famously in the US is the home of Judge Dredd.

4. Familiarize yourself with the different "eras" of comic books. Generally speaking, the further back you go the sillier and more old fashioned the stories get. There's some disagreement on the names and exact dating of the lesser ages but most agree that broadly speaking the 1940s is the "Golden Age" and the 1960s is the "Silver Age".

5. Most importantly. Buy trade paperbacks (at least to start) not single issues. Trades are where you get the most bang for your buck in comics. And they're the best way to read up on the history of a character/series you like without breaking the bank.

For example you mentioned "The Avengers #1 reprints" you can get "The Essential Avengers #1" trade paperback which has about 500 pages of black and white reprints of the series, with the first 24 issues. Or spend a little more to get "Marvel Masterworks The Avengers volume 1" which has the first 10 issues of the Avengers in glossy color reproduction.
Trades will also often contain an entire storyline/story arc which was originally published in 2 or more comic series, saving you from having to hunt down issues of a series you're not subscribed to or read a synopsis online to follow an onging storyline

Be aware that the hobby can become a money sink very easily. A good way to test out series/characters without wasting money if you have a library that participates in inter-library loan is to request that your library borrow trades you're curious about. worldcat should provide you with the information you need for this. http://www.worldcat.org/

Lastly (at least until you confirm you're looking for series suggestions lol) if you do wind up getting into comics and want to collect single issues you're going to want some of these:
http://www.amazon.com/BCW-Brand-SHORT-Comic-Storage/dp/B005N1HA1S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1391669256&sr=8-2&
http://www.amazon.com/BCW-Current-Comic-Book-Boards/dp/B001244X56/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1391669292&sr=8-3&
 

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Well, despite Anonymous' bullshit, I would recommend V For Vendetta. It IS a good read. It's just that a group of hackers with too much free time and not enough fresh air think it's their way of life.
 

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I highly recommend reading 'The Walking Dead' graphic book compilations by Dark Horse comics. Whether you like the TV series or not, please read the comic from the beginning; it is some of the best work that has come out of the comic industry in a long time.

Another series I recommend is the compilation of the 'Lucifer' series by DC's Vertigo line. Some of it gets hard to follow in places, especially as the series goes on, but it is wrapped up well in the end, so it gets a nod.

If you can find the 'Possessions' trilogy by Ray Fawkes, it is a cute, quirky read that kids and adults can enjoy. Sadly, the third volume has so far been the last, which isn't good, because it leaves everything off in cliffhanger mode. Fawkes said he wanted to do about 'six or seven' books in this series; but I think he wrote himself into a corner with the last book, and just decided to move on. Its still worth finding though, and is put out by Oni Press of Portland, Oregon.

There are many more, but I'm sure others will point them out faster than I am able to.
 

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Every Vertigo launch title (Sandman, Hellblazer as instant ones). Only problem is that Hellblazer and Lucifer are pretty damn hard to complete, with both either missing trades (Hellblazer) or them being out of print (Lucifer 3&4).
 

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Auberon said:
Every Vertigo launch title (Sandman, Hellblazer as instant ones). Only problem is that Hellblazer and Lucifer are pretty damn hard to complete, with both either missing trades (Hellblazer) or them being out of print (Lucifer 3&4).
I had no problem finding Lucifer in Oregon or down in Sacramento, CA when I visited there. Any good comic book shop will happily help you locate any missing books you may need.
 

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Whytewulf said:
I may just pick up some old Avengers #1 re-prints or something in the nature.
If you're interested in getting into some of the big Marvel/DC franchises, I'd recommend picking up something like the Marvel Platinum (or equivalent) volume for whichever characters you're interested in (so in this case maybe get Marvel Platinum: The Definitive Avengers). They're collections of stories from throughout each series' run, from the earliest issues to the recent stuff, that will give you something of a basic outline for the series, allow you to figure out whether or not the series is for you, and point you in the direction of interesting story arcs/periods to dig into in more detail if you so wish.

That's what I do, anyway. I'm a big Marvel fan, but there are still several big Marvel franchises I haven't got round to yet, and I find the Definitive collections really helpful in deciding where to go next.

If you try to jump in with issue #1 and work chronologically from there... well, you're in for a *long* journey.

Ratty said:
5. Most importantly. Buy trade paperbacks (at least to start) not single issues. Trades are where you get the most bang for your buck in comics. And they're the best way to read up on the history of a character/series you like without breaking the bank.
Yes, yes, yes, this. So much. It's an expensive enough hobby as it is without delving into single issues.
 
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Sandman - hard to define by genre, started out as a horror comic but is never really scary, could be described as fantasy but doesn't take place in its own fantasy world, rather blends all kinds of different mythologies together in a fascinating way. Anyway, for me it's the definitive 'best comic ever', and you shouldn't miss it.

Saga - I've heard it described as a cross between GoT and Star Wars, and I've got to say... that description holds up. Sex and violence all over the place, as you'd expect, and some really fun dialogue. Still ongoing though, so bear in mind that you'll have to wait between issues instead of just going through the whole thing.

Watchmen - the ultimate comic for subversion of superhero tropes, and also just some really stellar writing.

Blankets - probably the black sheep of this list, it's more like a novel than anything else I've mentioned; it was never serialised into individual issues, only ever released as a single volume, and instead of superheroes, sci-fi or fantasy it's a typical coming-of-age romance story. Intensely personal and with really beautiful black-and-white art. But be warned that it will break your heart.

There's all sorts of other stuff I could list, but that should be a good introduction.
 

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I second everyone who has said Saga.

I also recommend the reboot of Prophet by Brandon Graham. It's sci-fi, but it's so weird it might as well be fantasy in some places.
 

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a great place to start for anyone new to comics. I'm talking about the Mirage originals, where they actually used their weapons to kill people and didn't have multi-coloured bandanas. It has a mix of sci-fi and fantasy elements. It's also easy to pick up and follow story-wise.
 

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Graphic Novels:

For your modern superhero fix, get Snyder and Capullos's Batman New 52 Reboot. Either Vol 1(Court of Owls) or 3 (Death of the Family) for a great Joker story.
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Thor: God of Thunder - Godbomb saga. This is epic, and not in a new age way, honest to goodness larger than life itself epic storytelling.

Assorted other Recommendations:

Punk Rock Jesus (Subversive and relevant)
Watchmen (Classic, must read)
Walking Dead (Although I only got throught the first couple of volumes, it's good but I didn't feel like catching up)
 

GiantRaven

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Read Preacher. I think it's probably one of the best comics to engross new people into the medium.
 

Whytewulf

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Thanks for all the suggestions. I had another friend suggest Sandman, so I think I will check that out, along with Saga and then maybe get a few "superhero" type trade backs. I like buying things I can keep for a while anyway and stock my bookshelves. :)

Illesdan said:
I highly recommend reading 'The Walking Dead' graphic book compilations by Dark Horse comics. Whether you like the TV series or not, please read the comic from the beginning; it is some of the best work that has come out of the comic industry in a long time.

Another series I recommend is the compilation of the 'Lucifer' series by DC's Vertigo line. Some of it gets hard to follow in places, especially as the series goes on, but it is wrapped up well in the end, so it gets a nod.

If you can find the 'Possessions' trilogy by Ray Fawkes, it is a cute, quirky read that kids and adults can enjoy. Sadly, the third volume has so far been the last, which isn't good, because it leaves everything off in cliffhanger mode. Fawkes said he wanted to do about 'six or seven' books in this series; but I think he wrote himself into a corner with the last book, and just decided to move on. Its still worth finding though, and is put out by Oni Press of Portland, Oregon.

There are many more, but I'm sure others will point them out faster than I am able to.
I am not sure why I forgot to mention, Walking Dead is the only one I have read. I am on series #5 now, well I ordered it, the postman and I just can't agree where it is. I will check out some others too.

Where is the best place to discuss this topic? IS there a good forum for comic/graphic novels, that isn't overly insane? I found one through google once and I swear it looked like a creepiest manga duel. I am open minded, but sometimes I read these things while eating. ha!
 

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I highly recommend that you not exclude newspaper comics and webcomics from your list.

Calvin and Hobbes, Retail, and Heavenly Nostrils are great newspaper comics.
And on the webcomic side of things, Questinable Content, Sluggy Freelance, and the Order of the Stick are must-reads.
 

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Sam Cox said:
Graphic Novels:
For your modern superhero fix, get Snyder and Capullos's Batman New 52 Reboot. Either Vol 1(Court of Owls) or 3 (Death of the Family) for a great Joker story.

Yeah, Snyder's run on Batman is indeed really good. American Vampire by Snyder is also really awesome. He's just a great writer all around. As for Batman comics/graphic novels Arkhum Asylum remains one of my favorites. Highly recommended even if you aren't into Batman or superheroes in general.

Some of my favorite comics are the Spawn side-stories from the mid- to late '90's/early 00's, like the phenomenal Spawn the Undead, Curse of the Spawn and Hellspawn. You can get all these in collected format. Spawn: Blood and Shadows is also really good. Image Comics was at the top of its game during that period even directing artstyles the likes of Ben Templesmith into the mainstream. But with so many things in entertainment when the success comes the creative risks are gone.
 

Bocaj2000

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Stay away from Marvel/DC universes and stay away from Shonen manga. What got me into graphic novels were independent artists and Seinen manga.

Here's a list of my firsts, if you want to check them out, that's up to you:

-Parasyte
-Vagabond
-Watchmen
-V for Vendetta
-Desertpunk
-Habibi