Mortai Gravesend said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Vault101 said:
Pimppeter2 said:
I never understood the "Move to Canada or Britain" people.
If you're leaving America because you hate it, why would you go to the two countries most similar to it?
to enjoy all the comforts of a 1st world country without the american bullshit...anyway, going somwhere cultrually different is very hard
anyway rightnow Im gla dot be living where I do
But there are tons of, no offense, (according to them) "better" first world countries to go to. Sweden, maybe even France perhaps. But isn't the idea that they hate American Culture? Wouldn't they want to be somewhere culturally different?
And what is "The American Bullshit" anyways?
A Bill that never made it to the floor of Congress because The People spoke out against it? That's
supposed to be how government works. This was a very good thing. More things like this should happen.
I'm about the least patriotic person you can find, and I'm still glad to be living in America.
Because presumably hating the politics in the nation doesn't translate to hating the entire culture. And it would be culturally different nontheless, just not as much as moving to China or something. Also there's the fact that no new language need be acquired to live there. And for Canada, it's close to the US where people presumably have family.
As for American bullshit... we have the wars in the Middle East for starters. The Tea Party. The conservative social value stuff like trying to prevent gay marriage. We have one of the two major parties fielding some pretty ridiculous candidates for President which doesn't say much good about them.(Okay... I clearly don't care much for the conservative politics around here, but it's not as if I'm alone in that sentiment) And I can't say I'm fond of the influence of corporatiins either. Oh and the fact they're people. As for the bill not reaching the floor, the fact it existed and had support at all at one point doesn't speak well. Sure it turned out alright, but it's nicer if we didn't have our elected officials proposing and supporting things like it in the first place.
Clearly there are people less attached to the nation than you are. I am glad to be living here compared to say a third world nation. But I'd have no qualms about having been born in similarly stable and wealthy nation. Moving I wouldn't care for because I'm used to where I am, but it's certainly not because I consider America particularly better. My fondness for it compared to other 1st world alternatives simply lies in familiarity.
To be fair, I never said America never had its fair share of bullshit. But, so do both those other countries. Just different types. Both have soldiers in the middle east alongside america. Same sex marriage is legal in Canada, but not in the United Kingdom. Politics are a headache wherever you go, really, because a government will never only appeal to you specifically. Besides, expecting politicians to "just know" how you feel about something is fairly ridiculous, no offense meant.
I want to be clear that I'm not saying America is perfect, and it has pros and cons compared to many other places to live. But politics are part of culture, and both Canada and the UK act fairly along the lines of America. They're the most interconnected countries in the world.
Yes, but which nation has the bigger presence and has invested so much more into it? And as far as I know at least sentiment towards LGBT is better in those countries. The ultra conservative Christian anti-gay crap doesn't seem particularly strong like it is here, though I never checked. And sure politics are a headache, but you can't just leave it at that and ignore the differences. They aren't all equal. And I don't expect politicians to just know, I never said that. But I would like them to have enough sense not to do certain things. Like attempting SOPA and PIPA or the shit they've successfully pulled like the Patriot Act.
I'm somewhat doubtful about it being so connected that there'd be no real difference for people though. There's some obvious things where it differes, like healthcare. It isn't just the same.
There's a bigger investment than the lives of people? Im sorry, that doesn't make sense to me. As soon as you've put 1 life into an unnecessary war effort, you've spent to much to be redeemed. Second, fair enough, but that doesn't really change things. But being discriminated against with a smile on the face isn't exactly a solution to the problem. And that same problem only exists because there are more people in America to make the belief more common. But if you travel to places (like where I live) its completely nonexistant. Third, politics is a mess, a given. But its the peoples job to fix it, not the government. I wrote 7 articles on the Patriot act when it was signed. I contacted my congressman. Which was Barack Obama at the time. I took the action that the government gives me. If more people did, instead of sulking, then maybe things would be different.
And yes, there are differences. I'm not denying that. My curiosity is just that those 2 countries are the most similar to America, while there are plenty of other countries that feature their same thing. France has great healthcare, for example. I get the culturally similar thing, kind of. It still seems silly to me. Regardless, my problem has less to do with America being seen as "less awesome" or something stupid like that, and more with the belief that other countries are some sort of Utopias. Which they're not.
