Is the 6 to 8 rule a load of crapola?

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Cari Scholtens

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Everyone always says that the human body only needs 6-8 hours of sleep a night to function. Am I the only one who wakes up tired after the full ocho?
 

Jedoro

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Scientifically, the body only needs four hours of sleep a night to survive, but don't worry, I'll get up after about nine or ten and still feel tired.
 

ZeroMachine

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Getting the right amount of sleep doesn't neccessarily make you feel refreshed. Oddly enough, I've noticed that I always wake up better when I'm woken up abrubptly. Also, you'll sleep MUCH better if you do something exhausting during the day.

I'd always suggest six hours of sleep at least, unless you have nothing important to do the next day.
 

thiosk

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No.

So you are what, about, 20?

High school students really should be getting closer to 10.

College age folk seem to make due with far less.

As soon as I hit 27, i need that full 8 hours, or I become nonfunctional after a couple days of undersleeping. When I was in college, I routinely slept for about 4.

Another big deal is sleep cycles. You have multiple sleep cycles your body goes through each night. My cycles are about 3 hours long. I would (before I got old) typically feel better after 6 hours of sleep than after 8, because waking up at 8 hours interupted the third cycle. I also feel like shit after waking up in the middle of a dream. That is cycle interruption, and it sucks.
 

pantsoffdanceoff

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How tired you are when you wake up depends on what stage of the sleep cycle you were in when you were woken up.
 

Johnn Johnston

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Sleeping for longer seems to just make me more tired and more reluctant to drag myself out of bed.

I'm just going to throw it out there; it's 5:36am currently here in England, where I have made the pointed decision to watch films and Rifftrax excerpts on Youtube and have stayed awake simply to see how long I could go before I got tired.
 

Beefcakes

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I get 5 hours sleep a night, if its a good night
But thats not an optional thing
Fun fact: You can go for as long as you want without sleeping, there are no detrimental or permanent affects other than being tired (and cranky), and you don't die after weeks of being awake, eventually you just fall asleep, regardless of whats happening. No brain damage or trauma or nutin'.
Thank you to the friends doing Psych...
And my interest into the reason I can't sleep at night! ARGH! There is no effective cure!
 

dodo1331

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It all depends on the noises around me and what has happened on the day before. If I ran for 10 miles on the day beforehand, I'm probably going to wake up wide awake. On the other hand, if I did absolutely nothing tiring the previous day, I'm probably going to be exhausted.

Is this normal?
 

LaBambaMan

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It's a total load. I generally get less than 5 hours a sleep each night, and I still manage to paint tiny little army men multiple colors and not have it look like a rainbow just vomited all over my desk.
 

mshcherbatskaya

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thiosk said:
No.

So you are what, about, 20?

High school students really should be getting closer to 10.

College age folk seem to make due with far less.

As soon as I hit 27, i need that full 8 hours, or I become nonfunctional after a couple days of undersleeping. When I was in college, I routinely slept for about 4.

Another big deal is sleep cycles. You have multiple sleep cycles your body goes through each night. My cycles are about 3 hours long. I would (before I got old) typically feel better after 6 hours of sleep than after 8, because waking up at 8 hours interupted the third cycle. I also feel like shit after waking up in the middle of a dream. That is cycle interruption, and it sucks.
I'd heard that the standard sleep cycle was about 1.5 hours from REM cycle to REM cycle, 45 minutes to get into peak REM state, 45 minutes to get out, but I could be remembering it wrong. My naps are inevitably 1.5 or 3 hours. Never 1 hour, never 2 or 4. I also sleep about 9 hours a night if my schedule doesn't require me to do otherwise. 1am to 10am. If my work schedule requires me to be at work by 8, I can't really crank back the schedule, I just have to live on 6 hours a night (12-6am) instead.
 

Beefcakes

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Percutio said:
Beefcakes said:
Stuff is said
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Hmm, well seeing as your experience is more hands on and word-of-mouth, it is probably more accurate than my classroom learnings with an unreliable text book, and an even more questionable teacher. But till I get to the bottom of this, I shall have neither opinion, to be safe. Interesting topic that, though...
 

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Percutio said:
Beefcakes said:
I get 5 hours sleep a night, if its a good night
But thats not an optional thing
Fun fact: You can go for as long as you want without sleeping, there are no detrimental or permanent affects other than being tired (and cranky), and you don't die after weeks of being awake, eventually you just fall asleep, regardless of whats happening. No brain damage or trauma or nutin'.
Thank you to the friends doing Psych...
And my interest into the reason I can't sleep at night! ARGH! There is no effective cure!
My mother is a nurse in the psychiatric field and there are some pretty rough consequences for loosing sleep. Your body gets into crappy shape (Obesity can occur) because you are seriously depriving it of time to regenerate. Your mind can also freak out and cause weird things to happen. You can suffer permanent effects as well(Dementia being one of them), but these are probably less common.
Now I'm really regretting staying up for 69 hours straight last week.

The reason you still feel tired after 6-10 hours of sleep is because your body puts things on standby while you sleep. Like turning on a computer, it needs a few moments to get everything up to speed. That's why we stretch and yawn so much in the morning; doing so encourages your muscles, lungs and mouth to get back to work.
 

Suikun

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Well, I guess I'm really abnormal. If I get two hours of sleep, I'm fine and can go about my day normally. I get six, I'm dying to crawl back into bed. I get 14 (which I usually do because ... well, lacking a job or anything to do for that matter gives you a lot of freedom) and I'm perfectly okay and can take the world on.

I think that the 6-8 hours thing is BS myself, but I'm not a psychologist, so I'm just basing it off what I've found. As a general rule of thumb I'd say just sleep until you wake up unless you've got something to do. And if you feel bad after that, then... well, hell, I don't know what to say. Maybe it's a sleep disorder or something, >.> I'm not the doctor.
 

quiet_samurai

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I'm 26 and I can go with about 5-7 and still feel just fine. Anymore then about 8-10 then I feel groggy. But i can survive on around 3 if I have too, or even none at all. I don't really know, I'm weird when it comes to sleeping. Usually about one a month for about a week I have a bad attack of insomnia.

If that paragraph seemed poor it's because I have been drinking a little.... woo hoo!