Is this a good gaming PC for its price?

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redmoretrout

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Truthfully I don't know much about computer specs, this seems like a good deal to me but I would like a second opinion. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/dell-dell-xps-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-6700k-2tb-hdd-24gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-gtx-graphics-windows-10-x8900-6569blk/10394158.aspx?path=022e69ec2af9c19a3d83351a41dd73c8en02
 

Albino Boo

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Yeah thats a good deal an i7 6700k with 24 GB of ddr 4 ram in terms of component prices would be ~ $2000 Canadian.
 

Hoplon

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No, a monster CPU paired with a 2 gen old mid range at the time GFX card, the i7 is a waste in that system.

dell prebuilt PC are kind of notorious for that kind of pairing.

the actual value for money is kind of hard to pin down since I'm in the UK and not used to dollars.
 

Antari

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Dell and Micron usually mount custom motherboards in their systems. Future upgrading will be an issue for you. Gigabyte tends to build with more standard architecture. If you don't plan on upgrading it until its dead, then the price is right.
 

Hoplon

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Antari said:
Dell and Micron usually mount custom motherboards in their systems. Future upgrading will be an issue for you. Gigabyte tends to build with more standard architecture. If you don't plan on upgrading it until its dead, then the price is right.
except it has a nVida 750 in it. you are going to want to upgrade pretty much immediately or why have a Skylake i7 and 24 gb of ram? and the could be a problem on that board with what ever tiny psu they are supplying.
 

Antari

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Hoplon said:
Antari said:
Dell and Micron usually mount custom motherboards in their systems. Future upgrading will be an issue for you. Gigabyte tends to build with more standard architecture. If you don't plan on upgrading it until its dead, then the price is right.
except it has a nVida 750 in it. you are going to want to upgrade pretty much immediately or why have a Skylake i7 and 24 gb of ram? and the could be a problem on that board with what ever tiny psu they are supplying.
Ya I figured I wouldn't repoint at the point you already made. The Video card is lower end but I still have yet to find anything that can tax a 760.
 

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Antari said:
Hoplon said:
Antari said:
Dell and Micron usually mount custom motherboards in their systems. Future upgrading will be an issue for you. Gigabyte tends to build with more standard architecture. If you don't plan on upgrading it until its dead, then the price is right.
except it has a nVida 750 in it. you are going to want to upgrade pretty much immediately or why have a Skylake i7 and 24 gb of ram? and the could be a problem on that board with what ever tiny psu they are supplying.
Ya I figured I wouldn't repoint at the point you already made. The Video card is lower end but I still have yet to find anything that can tax a 760.
Still if you'd buying a new PC and for these money, you can squeeze in a better video card. Especially if you cut out some of the extra unneeded things like the huge RAM and the i7 which Hoplon mentioned. A 760 is still servicable by all accounts - my old one is still working (albeit not in my machine) and it's fine. 750 is a bit lower than that, though, so it might have some problems on some newer releases and probably more in the coming years.
 

kurupt87

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GTX 750 not what I'd want, nor is the lack of an SSD.

nVidia cards have 3 numbers. The first is the generation, the second is where it falls in the generation power wise (1-9) and the last is a zero that means nothing. So, the card in that comp is a 7th gen rank 5 card, right in the middle of the pack of the last generation.

If you're buying this for gaming, then the i7 and the 24GB RAM are OTT. Compared to the GPU, they're laughably OTT.

An i5, 8/16GB RAM. Then for the GPU an R9 290/295/390 or GTX 760/770/960.
 

Antari

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DoPo said:
Antari said:
Hoplon said:
Antari said:
Dell and Micron usually mount custom motherboards in their systems. Future upgrading will be an issue for you. Gigabyte tends to build with more standard architecture. If you don't plan on upgrading it until its dead, then the price is right.
except it has a nVida 750 in it. you are going to want to upgrade pretty much immediately or why have a Skylake i7 and 24 gb of ram? and the could be a problem on that board with what ever tiny psu they are supplying.
Ya I figured I wouldn't repoint at the point you already made. The Video card is lower end but I still have yet to find anything that can tax a 760.
Still if you'd buying a new PC and for these money, you can squeeze in a better video card. Especially if you cut out some of the extra unneeded things like the huge RAM and the i7 which Hoplon mentioned. A 760 is still servicable by all accounts - my old one is still working (albeit not in my machine) and it's fine. 750 is a bit lower than that, though, so it might have some problems on some newer releases and probably more in the coming years.
Agreed 24 gigs of ram is wild overkill. Unless they are planning for half that ram to fail because they bought it on the cheap. But the biggest problem will be it being a Dell. Totally custom non-standard hardware. Good for building a cheap business machine you need 50 of. But its a nightmare for upgrading.
 

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Antari said:
Agreed 24 gigs of ram is wild overkill. Unless they are planning for half that ram to fail because they bought it on the cheap. But the biggest problem will be it being a Dell. Totally custom non-standard hardware. Good for building a cheap business machine you need 50 of. But its a nightmare for upgrading.
I'm sorry but you factually incorrect. These components are standard, they are not different than the ones that you buy off the shelf. The PSU and will tailored to the power requirements to the off the shelf build and the motherboard will have less PCIE slots than a gigabyte board but you can plug anything into them. That build is ~$700 under cost as components price, a GTX 970 and a 650w PSU will cost $550 Canadian.
 

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albino boo said:
Antari said:
Agreed 24 gigs of ram is wild overkill. Unless they are planning for half that ram to fail because they bought it on the cheap. But the biggest problem will be it being a Dell. Totally custom non-standard hardware. Good for building a cheap business machine you need 50 of. But its a nightmare for upgrading.
I'm sorry but you factually incorrect. These components are standard, they are not different than the ones that you buy off the shelf. The PSU and will tailored to the power requirements to the off the shelf build and the motherboard will have less PCIE slots than a gigabyte board but you can plug anything into them. That build is ~$700 under cost as components price, a GTX 970 and a 650w PSU will cost $550 Canadian.
Sometimes true, sometimes not. Many Dell prebuilt PC's are internally mirrored. They are identical in terms of specs, but in many common upgrade cases (such as upgrading a video card) you cannot mix a dell prebuilt with standard parts. This one does not look like this is the case though.

And Dell, as well as most prebuilt desktop pc manufactures, tend to use low quality parts.

I would not buy this PC. Bad part balance and lack of an ssd are big problems. It is running 24 gb of ram which is way, way more than any game even thinks of needing at this point and it is using a $500 processor, which just isn't needed for games right now. And yet it is running a $100 video card that will soon be very outdated. It doesn't seem excessively over priced exactly, but you are paying for a lot of hardware you do not need for gaming, and you are not going to be running new games at high settings even now.

To see the point, look at this site:

http://www.logicalincrements.com/#!/

Notice how your graphics card, the gtx 750, is sitting way up at the top in "fair"? That makes it a card recommended for budget gaming PCs. It is a really solid card for what it is, but you will notice that at this tier the entire PC would cost just over $400, about $500 with OS. On the other hand, your CPU is sitting down in the enthusiast tier, and even in the enthusiast tier they still recommend only 16 gb of ram. This is a massive mismatch of parts.

Overall you are getting an extremely imbalanced gaming rig, resulting in middling quality until you fix the imbalance ($600 minimum if I am any judge.) It will perform about as well as a $550 gaming rig (including OS) if you were to build it yourself.

But I do have the technical skills to build my own, so I don't know how prebuilt computers tend to run, it might be a good deal if you are intent on not building your own. If you can upgrade the video card and add an ssd down the line then it should be reasonably future proof, though that also depends on the motherboard (prebuilts are notorious for skimping on the motherboard), which we have no real information about.

Other thing to consider: That CPU is going to run hot at 4.0 ghz, I would bet real money this computer is quite loud. You will probably have to invest in a minimum of $60-$70 worth of actually good heat dissipation hardware (heat sink and fans) to solve the problem, which you will have to install yourself.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Too much RAM and too little GPU horsepower. Hell, even the CPU is overkill. There's no need to have an unlocked CPU if you don't know enough about PC's to overclock. Besides, even locked Skylake CPU's can be overclocked now on some motherboards. I could go on and on, but the gist of it is that this PC is not worth the money. 8Gb or RAM is enough and you can always get more later. For a gaming PC your first priority should be the GPU. That's an entry level GPU.
 

Antari

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albino boo said:
Antari said:
Agreed 24 gigs of ram is wild overkill. Unless they are planning for half that ram to fail because they bought it on the cheap. But the biggest problem will be it being a Dell. Totally custom non-standard hardware. Good for building a cheap business machine you need 50 of. But its a nightmare for upgrading.
I'm sorry but you factually incorrect. These components are standard, they are not different than the ones that you buy off the shelf. The PSU and will tailored to the power requirements to the off the shelf build and the motherboard will have less PCIE slots than a gigabyte board but you can plug anything into them. That build is ~$700 under cost as components price, a GTX 970 and a 650w PSU will cost $550 Canadian.
No I'm not. I speak from experience. Dell may use the same chip sets as other motherboards, but you'll find them in a completely different configuration on the board than any other motherboard on the market. They manufacture their own boards all they do is mount the chipsets on it. Because of that they can size the board to the case design for the latest year. Which likely doesn't take into account mounting space above the pci-e slots so a beefy 9 series card won't fit, even with a shoe horn. But Dell will have it's own video card that will fit. For a price. I've dealt with Dells many, many times. This part about them hasn't changed since they first started. Micron and Gateway are pretty much the same as well. Usually about the only things inside a Dell case that are off the shelf are the cpu and the hard drive and maybe a few cables. Asus and Gigabyte at least sell their internal hardware publicly so you can say they use off the shelf hardware.
 

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Ehhhhhhhhhhh, not really. The CPU is good stuff, but the RAM is overkill compared to the rather lacking GTX 750. Even my 760 struggles in stuff (Though I am running 3 monitors, so that hurts the performance some). So, for anything intense or gaming related, you're not gonna get the best bang for your buck there. Such is the case with any pre-built, honestly
 

Hoplon

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well the deal is gone now anyways, but was looking at some of the sites like maingear and falcon northwest etc, Maingear will do you a decent gaming rig for $1300.

https://www.maingear.com/index.php
 

Kaymish

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That build is messed up like the posters before me have said the CPU is ok Ram is massive overkill i am a bit of an enthusiast and i only have 16 GB RAM in my current rig and the GPU is way on the weak side i am running twice the GRAM on a top end card of that same gen

also its a Dell so its gonna melt on you in a year and half tops i use to do some work for a crowd who used lose their leased Dells almost like clockwork to burning PSU's
and on that note there is no specs on what the heat management is like if its pure aircooled its probably gonna sound like a freight train
 

shotgun_banjo

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Don't be scared about buying this PC and upgrading it. I bought it then slapped a ASUS GTX 980ti strix OC, EVGA 750w PSU, 250gig samsung SSD, PCI titan fan cooler, Noctua 92mm fan, Bgears (88 CFM) intake fan, fan controller.

In the end of the day I spend $2700ish WITH taxes on the rig and no where you can get a rig that has the same setup without spending $3500 before taxes.

Bestbuy also have a premade ASUS rig but it won't have the same specs as what I have and if you decide to upgrade the ASUS rig you will spend more than what I did. The big ticket item for this upgrade is the ASUS GTX 980ti card. I tried using the Zoltac 980ti card but is won't fit but the ASUS card is bechmarked somehow better depending on what you are doing.

When all of the fans are running at 100% (except for the rear case fan which is controlled by the mobo) the GPU runs at 62-65?C, CPU at 60?C, SSD and HDD at 33?C while utilizing 100% of the GPU and 100% of the CPU while rendering animation for 2 hours with room ambient temperatur of 23?C

True you cannot do SLI on it and true you cannot have 64gig of ram on it but for what I have currently the PC is good for the next 5 years or even more. People who uses SLI and more than 24 gig of ram are geared more towards people who wants to do "work" as fast as they can but from my experience this is fast enough for professional work.
 

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The CPU, for the current market, is a bit overkill. Though it's good for the future. 24GB of ram is also overkill atm. And once again probably a good thing for the future. I'd say about 3~5 years into the future. However it doesn't even have an SSD for the operating system. And the GPU is moving towards the outdated side now. Yet they have the balls to call it a pc specifically for gaming, where your video card should be just as important as ram/cpu instead of an afterthought.

I'd rather go for something with a bit less CPU and RAM power, but with a GTX 970 or something similar/better and an SSD in it. So I personally don't think you're getting good value for your money in this case. I personally wouldn't buy a Dell anyway. They tend to be on the pricey side for what they offer, even if it looks good at first glance. You will probably get far better value if you get a specialist to order the parts and put it together for you. Having everything put together for you is generally pretty cheap. Over here it's 25 euro. Not sure what it would be over there.