It begins, the first DC/Watchmen crossover comic issue is out now.

[King Billi]

I think you and I have very different definitions of stellar. Because King's run is subpar as fuck so far.

Every time Batman and Catwoman called each other "Bat" and "Cat" I wanted to eat that page. They said it like 4000 times. UGH. Not to mention Bane, who I usually am a fan of. He beats Robin, Red Hood, AND NIGHTWING, all off panel, and HANGS THEM. What the fuck, why not completely discredit the skills of three important characters? Fuck it! Why not have Bane break out of ice that Mr. Freeze calculated to be far more than Bane could ever break out of and only justify it with "because he's Bane" (literally, that's all we get). And then after Bane steamrolls basically the entire Batman roster, why not have Batman beat him by headbutting him and punching him a few times? Just because he's Batman!

Jesus that whole story was so poorly executed. And I really liked the Gotham and Gotham Girl stuff before it, minus Gotham somehow beating the entire Justice League off-panel. I guess that's a pattern: when King decides he wants to show how badass a character is but can't figure out how to logically portray them beating tough opponents, they just do it off-panel. Solid writing, that.

If Bane cannot defeat Batman's sidekicks on their own then he's hardly a worthy adversary for Batman himself is he?

Robin, Red Hood and Nightwing all have their own ongoing series so if you really care how they're portrayed the you can read them but in Batman's title where they are all ancillary characters at best then yeah they can all be taken out off panel, that's all the purpose they serve In this story.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I think you and I have very different definitions of stellar. Because King's run is subpar as fuck so far.

Every time Batman and Catwoman called each other "Bat" and "Cat" I wanted to eat that page. They said it like 4000 times. UGH. Not to mention Bane, who I usually am a fan of. He beats Robin, Red Hood, AND NIGHTWING, all off panel, and HANGS THEM. What the fuck, why not completely discredit the skills of three important characters? Fuck it! Why not have Bane break out of ice that Mr. Freeze calculated to be far more than Bane could ever break out of and only justify it with "because he's Bane" (literally, that's all we get). And then after Bane steamrolls basically the entire Batman roster, why not have Batman beat him by headbutting him and punching him a few times? Just because he's Batman!

Jesus that whole story was so poorly executed. And I really liked the Gotham and Gotham Girl stuff before it, minus Gotham somehow beating the entire Justice League off-panel. I guess that's a pattern: when King decides he wants to show how badass a character is but can't figure out how to logically portray them beating tough opponents, they just do it off-panel. Solid writing, that.

If Bane cannot defeat Batman's sidekicks on their own then he's hardly a worthy adversary for Batman himself is he?

Robin, Red Hood and Nightwing all have their own ongoing series so if you really care how they're portrayed the you can read them but in Batman's title where they are all ancillary characters at best then yeah they can all be taken out off panel, that's all the purpose they serve In this story.

Horse shit. I don't mind them losing, but they are heroes in their own right. Hell, Nightwing is practically on Batman's level on his own, at least in a fight. They deserve more than being reduced to a shocking image at the end of an issue.

 

[King Billi]

Horse shit. I don't mind them losing, but they are heroes in their own right. Hell, Nightwing is practically on Batman's level on his own, at least in a fight. They deserve more than being reduced to a shocking image at the end of an issue.

Yeah I get it. Everyone in the DC universe is some bodies favourite character and they all probably "deserve more" than they receive sometimes but they can't all be the centre of attention in every story they appear in sometimes they just have to serve somebody else's story. Getting hung up on how every minor character or cameo appearance is handled to try and appease every fan would only result in an overblown and unfocused story.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Second Issue of the Story Arc is out.

Its in Flash Rebirth issue 21.

See this is why no one likes Comic Books you have to go from one comic series to another to see the story arc unfold. What if I am into Batman and I see this arc that I like and I am forced to read a Flash comic who I have no interest in suddenly to read his issue of the Story Arc

This does not make for a streamlined reading experiance.

It baffles me that people wants this in movies.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Read it, so far this is playing a more like Flashpoint Part 2 than a DC/Watchmen Crossover.

But the big spoiler is this:

Spoiler

Batman and Flash time traveled to investigate where Reverse Flash went to, and than ended up back in the Flashpoint universe where Bruce Wayne meets his father, Flashpoint Thomas Wayne Batman.

 

[Natemans]

Second Issue of the Story Arc is out.

Its in Flash Rebirth issue 21.

See this is why no one likes Comic Books you have to go from one comic series to another to see the story arc unfold. What if I am into Batman and I see this arc that I like and I am forced to read a Flash comic who I have no interest in suddenly to read his issue of the Story Arc

This does not make for a streamlined reading experiance.

It baffles me that people wants this in movies.

Yet you complain about comics nowadays and still talk about it with anticipation.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Second Issue of the Story Arc is out.

Its in Flash Rebirth issue 21.

See this is why no one likes Comic Books you have to go from one comic series to another to see the story arc unfold. What if I am into Batman and I see this arc that I like and I am forced to read a Flash comic who I have no interest in suddenly to read his issue of the Story Arc

This does not make for a streamlined reading experiance.

It baffles me that people wants this in movies.

Yet you complain about comics nowadays and still talk about it with anticipation.

As I said this perticular one gripped me by the balls.

 

[Natemans]

Second Issue of the Story Arc is out.

Its in Flash Rebirth issue 21.

See this is why no one likes Comic Books you have to go from one comic series to another to see the story arc unfold. What if I am into Batman and I see this arc that I like and I am forced to read a Flash comic who I have no interest in suddenly to read his issue of the Story Arc

This does not make for a streamlined reading experiance.

It baffles me that people wants this in movies.

Yet you complain about comics nowadays and still talk about it with anticipation.

As I said this perticular one gripped me by the balls.

I don't get the love for Flashpoint. I think its just okay at best

 

[wizzy555]

I don't mind if DC put in a few callouts but a full crossover is just wrong. Alan Moore's point* was that humans are not real heroes, it's just metaphysically impossible (in his universe), it's a clash of literary genres. It's like if someone from 'Love Actually' found their way into the warhammer 40k universe.

*I'm not a fan boy, I think he's a crazy anarchist hippy.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

 

[Kolby Jack]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

I believe it was at the very beginning of Rebirth, the special issue that reintroduced the original Wally West. He shows up in the Batcave (among other places while he's trying to get back to the real world) and his speed force energy embedded the button into the cave's wall which Batman later dug out.

 

[Natemans]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

Here's the thing:

Spoiler

The Flashpoint part of this story, its already over with this new issue, Bruce Wayne Batman meets Flashpoint father Batman, basically blah blah blah the Flashpoint universe is still in place becuase its implied Dr Manhatten is holding onto it, and suddenly the world is blown up in a way VERY similar to how that Explosion that destroyed New York City in the Watchmen Comic looked like, Bruce's reaction to seeing his father was basically summed up as "PAPA ", so yeah Flash made another Treadmill and left before the world blew up and Thomas Wayne Flashpoint says goodbye to his son

The Not TOO spoiler version is that the Flashpoint part of this story is already done with this issue. So we won't see Flashpoint things anymore

 

[Natemans]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

Here's the thing:

Spoiler

The Flashpoint part of this story, its already over with this new issue, Bruce Wayne Batman meets Flashpoint father Batman, basically blah blah blah the Flashpoint universe is still in place becuase its implied Dr Manhatten is holding onto it, and suddenly the world is blown up in a way VERY similar to how that Explosion that destroyed New York City in the Watchmen Comic looked like, Bruce's reaction to seeing his father was basically summed up as "PAPA ", so yeah Flash made another Treadmill and left before the world blew up and Thomas Wayne Flashpoint says goodbye to his son

The Not TOO spoiler version is that the Flashpoint part of this story is already done with this issue. So we won't see Flashpoint things anymore

So it was basically filler? Whatever. Sounded more like something you would read in a "Previously on...." segment in a comic.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

Here's the thing:

Spoiler

The Flashpoint part of this story, its already over with this new issue, Bruce Wayne Batman meets Flashpoint father Batman, basically blah blah blah the Flashpoint universe is still in place becuase its implied Dr Manhatten is holding onto it, and suddenly the world is blown up in a way VERY similar to how that Explosion that destroyed New York City in the Watchmen Comic looked like, Bruce's reaction to seeing his father was basically summed up as "PAPA ", so yeah Flash made another Treadmill and left before the world blew up and Thomas Wayne Flashpoint says goodbye to his son

The Not TOO spoiler version is that the Flashpoint part of this story is already done with this issue. So we won't see Flashpoint things anymore

So it was basically filler? Whatever. Sounded more like something you would read in a "Previously on...." segment in a comic.

What is your beef with Flashpoint, I found it to be better than most Comicbook Arcs.

 

[Natemans]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

Here's the thing:

Spoiler

The Flashpoint part of this story, its already over with this new issue, Bruce Wayne Batman meets Flashpoint father Batman, basically blah blah blah the Flashpoint universe is still in place becuase its implied Dr Manhatten is holding onto it, and suddenly the world is blown up in a way VERY similar to how that Explosion that destroyed New York City in the Watchmen Comic looked like, Bruce's reaction to seeing his father was basically summed up as "PAPA ", so yeah Flash made another Treadmill and left before the world blew up and Thomas Wayne Flashpoint says goodbye to his son

The Not TOO spoiler version is that the Flashpoint part of this story is already done with this issue. So we won't see Flashpoint things anymore

So it was basically filler? Whatever. Sounded more like something you would read in a "Previously on...." segment in a comic.

What is your beef with Flashpoint, I found it to be better than most Comicbook Arcs.

I found the story really mediocre, the explanation that Reverse Flash is the reason behind Barry's life problems was kinda stupid (really? So every time he tripped or got a wedgie, it was Thawne? That's dumb.), the characters were kinda not interesting, had a few dumb bits. I don't hate it because it caused the new 52, but I don't get all of the love for it. I can think of a few better Flash stories than Flashpoint.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

OK 3rd issue is out, and now this is getting really interesting.

But I have a question? What was the Comic Issue where Batman and Flash found The Comedian's Button in the first place?

At this point, the story has completely made me more disinterested. Really? We are making the big plot point focused on Flashpoint? Honest opinion, I think Flashpoint is kinda a mediocre, overrated Flash story.

Batman found the button in the wall at the end of DC Rebirth #1.

Here's the thing:

Spoiler

The Flashpoint part of this story, its already over with this new issue, Bruce Wayne Batman meets Flashpoint father Batman, basically blah blah blah the Flashpoint universe is still in place becuase its implied Dr Manhatten is holding onto it, and suddenly the world is blown up in a way VERY similar to how that Explosion that destroyed New York City in the Watchmen Comic looked like, Bruce's reaction to seeing his father was basically summed up as "PAPA ", so yeah Flash made another Treadmill and left before the world blew up and Thomas Wayne Flashpoint says goodbye to his son

The Not TOO spoiler version is that the Flashpoint part of this story is already done with this issue. So we won't see Flashpoint things anymore

So it was basically filler? Whatever. Sounded more like something you would read in a "Previously on...." segment in a comic.

What is your beef with Flashpoint, I found it to be better than most Comicbook Arcs.

There's way better comic book arcs than Flashpoint.