It's cool to kill off established characters (spoilers for TOR).

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sagejosh

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I had an issue with this in World of Warcraft, it seemed like they were systematically making every cool character from the original universe and making them a raid boss to be killed off in the "story". Granted its not really an issue because story wasnt exactly prevalent in World of Warcraft and I really doubt half the community even knew Warcraft had a story line to it but it seems to be catching on. The Old Republic is going to be a MMO that has 200+ hours of storyline in it and is very centered on story telling as you can imagine. the strangest thing though is that they seem to be going to World of Warcraft way of story telling, you killed off a main character so your awesome.


In the old republic they revive 3 main characters, who are Revan, HK-47, and the exile, and make them mid level bosses to kill off. these are established characters from both Kotor 1 and 2 and they make surprise guest appearances so you can feel like your character is great. I personally dont get why Bioware would do this, they make characters that were supposedly legends through out history and say "you killed revan, you and about 5 million other people are better then him now" which is a mystery to me. they then go to make level 50 instances kill off most of the TOR established characters. The final insult the the whole story tellign process is that the only level 50 raid is not about infiltrating the enemy faction's base and assassinating their leader, you probably already did that, it is about killing a character no one knows or cares about.


You can find most of this information through leak websites and the actual SWTOR forums.
 

razor343

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I can SORT OF understand HK-47 being a Mid-level boss. But Revan and the Exile? Shouldn't they be all powerful by now if they have been able to survive for god knows how long. (Doesn't the story of TOR take place a few hundred years after KOTOR 2?)
 

Soviet Heavy

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I'd rather Bioware had just ignored KOTOR 2 and done something else. They missed the philosophical point of that game entirely. Yes, the True Sith, who Kreia made out to be this supernatural force, waiting beyond the edge of the galaxy! Let's make them into the Galactic Empire! With Stormtroopers! And Star Destroyers!
 

Ordinaryundone

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razor343 said:
I can SORT OF understand HK-47 being a Mid-level boss. But Revan and the Exile? Shouldn't they be all powerful by now if they have been able to survive for god knows how long. (Doesn't the story of TOR take place a few hundred years after KOTOR 2?)
Age doesn't really equal power in the Star Wars universe. Remember, Luke is considered to be one of the strongest masters EVER and he's in his 50s. You do have guys like Yoda who are super old and strong, but that came more from a lifetime of meditation and study than anything, and their bodies suffer for it. A Jedi isn't just their force powers, they are dramatically less effective when they aren't in peak physical shape.

Revan I could see being a mid-boss (though he doesn't really deserve to be one). His power came from strategy and tactics, as well as Battle Meditation. We don't really know how strong he was in a one-on-one fight. Beating Malak was pretty impressive, but thats about all he's got.

The Exile on the other hand....hoo boy. Anything that uses the Force to fight would have a definite uphill battle against the Exile thanks to their existence as a negative wedgie in the Force, for starters, and given that they are also a Jedi anyone without the force would be pretty screwed as well.
 

theheroofaction

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Umm, how would that work?
two of those three are supposed to be custom characters.
Shouldn't they also be uber strong.

I mean, most people who played kotor2 know that an endgame exile can kill 8 guys in just as many seconds.
same goes for Revan.
 

Scarim Coral

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I'm not exactly cool with it but if the others like it then so be it.

Killing of HK-47 is fine although-
I read that his remind was found in that volcano planet in Episode 3 and the Separatists had use his design to make a improve version of it until Anakin arrive and killed them all.
Some time after that some people revive him and his program had entered the main factory computer which he made more robots to attack everyone. Eventually they defeat his robot army but he got away by transferring his program into a latest version of his body and escape into the unknown region of space.

So what now? He get defeated in TOR and somehow transfer his program into a new body and escape?

With Raven and the Exile however it is kind of forcing "our" versions of the two characters and making a public version to everyone of our characters.
What I mean to say is that while I can assume Raven will have his trademark mask and maybe the Exile hooded in TOR but back in KOTOR and KOTOR our two characters were different compare to the other players (like those who chose the dark path or had made a female Raven). While the canon universe had made the Exile female but I made my male when I played KOTOR 2.

Regardless the Star Wars Universe isn't always canon so I wouldn't exactly take it this news serious.
 

Tragedy's Rebellion

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It doesn't make sense to kill them. Why would we do that? Especially the Republic, since Revan is a republic hero and canonically the exile is on the light side as well. The Sith, on the other hand, would like to learn from Revan and study the exile, since she's a scar in the Force.

I just don't get it, unless they are somehow "shades" of their former selves, which would be stupid.