Japanese Man Makes Plastic into Oil

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Wow. This is amazing, guys. I mean, maybe I just have been living under a rock, and this has been around for a lot longer than I thought, but I still think it's amazing. Lots of people I have talked to about it haven't heard of it yet, so I want to bring some attention to it.

What do you guys think? Is this going to be awesome, or could it possibly be a bad thing? (Some people think we don't even need oil anymore, etc.)

If you think it's the least bit useful or interesting or anything, send this to your friends and stuff like that. I think this deserves the attention, and if this just got buried by the oil companies and things like this, it'd suck.
 

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This is actually pretty amazing, I had never heard of it before. Why isn't this guy in the papers or something?

Also, I think you may want to change your title from "Makes Oil into Plastic" to "Makes Plastic into Oil".
 

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Tears of Blood said:

Wow. This is amazing, guys. I mean, maybe I just have been living under a rock, and this has been around for a lot longer than I thought, but I still think it's amazing. Lots of people I have talked to about it haven't heard of it yet, so I want to bring some attention to it.

What do you guys think? Is this going to be awesome, or could it possibly be a bad thing? (Some people think we don't even need oil anymore, etc.)
Erm not really? I learnt this in 11th grade (or year ten). Plastics are made from hydrocarbons that also make up oil, except they are all more complicated in the plastics. Seeing as you can brake larger hydrocarbons into smaller onces it isnt that amazing. This man has just turned theory into practice. The concept has been around for YONKS but the actuall invention is here now.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Erm not really? I learnt this in 11th grade (or year ten). Plastics are made from hydrocarbons that also make up oil, except they are all more complicated in the plastics. Seeing as you can brake larger hydrocarbons into smaller onces it isnt that amazing. This man has just turned theory into practice. The concept has been around for YONKS but the actuall invention is here now.
Well, sure, the concept has been around, but it is still awesome that we finally have the technology.

Arachon said:
This is actually pretty amazing, I had never heard of it before. Why isn't this guy in the papers or something?

Also, I think you may want to change your title from "Makes Oil into Plastic" to "Makes Plastic into Oil".
Oh wow, that was stupid of me. Hahah.
 

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Plastics are oil byproducts. Turning them into oil isn't particularly remarkable. It's potentially useful, sure, but unremarkable.
 

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Isn't that a bit like making a device that makes sand out of computer chips?

What use would it be exactly? I think you can make plastics out of things other than oil so maybe if you absolutely desperately needed oil and nothing else would do you could go through the rigmarole of making 'synthetic' plastic and then converting it into oil...

Am I totally missing the point here? I'm not sure...
 

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Wow. That's a pretty amazing little machine there. If they can make it smaller and install it in car engines, it'd be kind of like Mr. Flux from Back o The Future.

Also, change the title. It's really misleading when people have been able to make oil into plastic for years.
 

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Isn't that a bit like making a device that makes sand out of computer chips?

What use would it be exactly? I think you can make plastics out of things other than oil so maybe if you absolutely desperately needed oil and nothing else would do you could go through the rigmarole of making 'synthetic' plastic and then converting it into oil...

Am I totally missing the point here? I'm not sure...
I think this is useful in that plastic can now be repurposed as oil.
I may be completely missing the point, however.

EDIT: Wait, I just read over that and realised how stupid it sounded.
What I meant was it can now be turned BACK into oil once it no longer has use and be used for something else.
Like recycling.
In fact, I probably should have just said "recycled".

derp derp i have not slept in two days and what is this
 

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Japan. Is there anything it can't do?
Ordinary things?

OT: Astounding. He has reversed the plastic making process, which will help with consumption.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Erm not really? I learnt this in 11th grade (or year ten). Plastics are made from hydrocarbons that also make up oil, except they are all more complicated in the plastics. Seeing as you can brake larger hydrocarbons into smaller onces it isnt that amazing. This man has just turned theory into practice. The concept has been around for YONKS but the actuall invention is here now.
It's also pretty damn hard in practice. This kinda thing generally takes a lot of energy. If thermodynamics and physical chemistry holds true, it takes more energy to do it than you'll gain from the oil. (Of course if you use free energy like solar/wind, then it's a net energy gain). Biologically, it's also pretty damn tricky to do, as natural microbes do not really "detect" plastic.
Altering just 1 bond in a molecule is an extremely arduous task. People spend decades and decades to achieve it.

Then again, it's like cold fusion. The principal is ever so simple. But in practice..it's nearly impossible (and won't be possible for the next few decades, if ever).
 

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Harrowdown said:
Plastics are oil byproducts. Turning them into oil isn't particularly remarkable. It's potentially useful, sure, but unremarkable.
I disagree. I think it is remarkable, because up until this point we haven't been able to do that.

scumofsociety said:
Isn't that a bit like making a device that makes sand out of computer chips?

What use would it be exactly? I think you can make plastics out of things other than oil so maybe if you absolutely desperately needed oil and nothing else would do you could go through the rigmarole of making 'synthetic' plastic and then converting it into oil...

Am I totally missing the point here? I'm not sure...
Read the subtitles in the video, it is supposed to be very good for our environment.
 

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olicon said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
Erm not really? I learnt this in 11th grade (or year ten). Plastics are made from hydrocarbons that also make up oil, except they are all more complicated in the plastics. Seeing as you can brake larger hydrocarbons into smaller onces it isnt that amazing. This man has just turned theory into practice. The concept has been around for YONKS but the actuall invention is here now.
It's also pretty damn hard in practice. This kinda thing generally takes a lot of energy. If thermodynamics and physical chemistry holds true, it takes more energy to do it than you'll gain from the oil. (Of course if you use free energy like solar/wind, then it's a net energy gain). Biologically, it's also pretty damn tricky to do, as natural microbes do not really "detect" plastic.
Altering just 1 bond in a molecule is an extremely arduous task. People spend decades and decades to achieve it.

Then again, it's like cold fusion. The principal is ever so simple. But in practice..it's nearly impossible (and won't be possible for the next few decades, if ever).
People have been turning the stuff plastic is made of to usable fuel for ages also via breaking down larger hydro carbons. Its just we couldnt turn the plastic back into the stuff its made of again so we could turn THAT into oil. Thats what this man has invented. The reverse process. Its very impressive but he is as they say "standing on the shoulders of giants". He filled in the last gap to make the process possible.
 

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What's so special about that? It's just reverse engineering.
Again, it's amazing because it's something difficult to reverse engineer.

XJ-0461 said:
Wow. That's a pretty amazing little machine there. If they can make it smaller and install it in car engines, it'd be kind of like Mr. Flux from Back o The Future.

Also, change the title. It's really misleading when people have been able to make oil into plastic for years.
I did.

BiscuitTrouser said:
People have been turning the stuff plastic is made of to usable fuel for ages also via breaking down larger hydro carbons. Its just we couldnt turn the plastic back into the stuff its made of again so we could turn THAT into oil. Thats what this man has invented. The reverse process. Its very impressive but he is as they say "standing on the shoulders of giants". He filled in the last gap to make the process possible.
Maybe, but what he has done is still very important, and possibly very good for the environment.
 

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Tears of Blood said:
crimson5pheonix said:
What's so special about that? It's just reverse engineering.
Again, it's amazing because it's something difficult to reverse engineer.

XJ-0461 said:
Wow. That's a pretty amazing little machine there. If they can make it smaller and install it in car engines, it'd be kind of like Mr. Flux from Back o The Future.

Also, change the title. It's really misleading when people have been able to make oil into plastic for years.
I did.
And impractical. Why would anyone want to do this?
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
And impractical. Why would anyone want to do this?
Well, first of all, pay attention to what is said in the video.

Summary:

1. Reduce the amount of trash around, in landfills and etc.

2. Help with carbon dioxide emissions.

3. Allowing us to recycle some oil now, when before it was impossible.
 

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Tears of Blood said:
Harrowdown said:
Plastics are oil byproducts. Turning them into oil isn't particularly remarkable. It's potentially useful, sure, but unremarkable.
I disagree. I think it is remarkable, because up until this point we haven't been able to do that.
No, that's not really true. The concept is really very simple, although it is admittedly difficult to do in practice. It's so difficult in fact, that the gains from the process don't compensate for the effort and energy put in.
 

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Harrowdown said:
No, that's not really true. The concept is really very simple, although it is admittedly difficult to do in practice. It's so difficult in fact, that the gains from the process don't compensate for the effort and energy put in.
So, it's not remarkable that he has figured out a way to make it not nearly as difficult, and definitely worth the effort and energy?

Well, alright, if you say so. (Not really.)