Kansas woman shoots African elephant with bow, then leaves it to die

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GodsOneMistake

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Rad619619 said:
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What a sick and disgusting women... There was no reason for such a creature to die... Why the hell would you kill a goddamn elephant.... And before someone gets on my case, and elephant that is probably endangered for that matter is different in my mind than some run of the mill deer
I love bow shooting, but I left it behind when I came to USA. If you didn't read the entire post, hunting elephants is legal in that area. There is nothing wrong with hunting, it is how we get most of our meat and is the main source of Proteins for humans and hunting animals alike. Killing an animal for sport is cruel, but I still find it pretty moral and even enjoyable. She, her friends, a nearby African village, or even some carnivore animals would have eaten the elephant. She killed an elephant that would obviously have been killed by another hunter (Not with a single arrow, of course) or a hunting animal. Animal protectors may be trying to do the right thing, but are obsessed with bringing fake peace to people and animals, sticking illusions right in front of them. If you think hunting is bad, think about this: If humans never hunted we would be extinct by now.
I don't think hunting is bad. But some animals don't need to be hunted for example elephants they are far to intelligent and there numbers aren't nearly enough to make up for killing this animal. It also gets me that she just left it to suffer the whole night, and didn't have the cahones to finish the job. I no i have a complicated set of beliefs but thats what makes me different than some right wing or left wing nut job.
 

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I can tell from the comments that not many people on here have ever hunted before. Usually in alomost every circumstance while hunting the animal is left to die after being wounded. Sometimes it's quicker, and sometimes it will take awhile. That's just a fact of hunting. When i was 12 i shot a deer and it took nearly 20 mins for it to die completely. That's just a deer imagine a 2 ton elephant. And you never, ever approach a wounded animal. That is the best way to get yourself killed or injured, it sounds cruel but the smartest thig is to let the animal bleed out slowly than get close to finish it off.

Such is a luxury for being at the top of the food chain.
 

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Nowhere in that article did they say they knew how long it took the elephant to die. Yes, it probably took some time. How long though? None of us knows. Not even the hunter who killed it knows. All we know is it "staggered" 500 yards, which is not a very long distance for an animal of that size and fortitude. For example, a bull moose can go miles before it dies from a shot to the heart. All the angst about this article is based off assumptions. Assumptions about how long it took to die, about what she did or did not do with the animal afterward, about her mindset and so on. No one thus far has been able to come up with a reason against this that they did not fabricate with their own assumptions other than "I don't like hunting".

Really all this thread shows is an impressive ignorance about hunting. This is -very- typical, as many people have said in this thread all ready (including myself).
 

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TMAN10112 said:
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I for one have no problem with this.

It's only an animal. We, as humans, are far superior to them, so I'd say we have the right to kill them.

I'm not one to go chasing elephants, but I am impressed by this.
How are we superior to them? How often do you see an elephant wound a human maliciously and leave them to die? There is nothing impressive about what she did, just another example of the scum our society produces.
By that logic, you should also risk your life and the well-being of your only child by jumping into a river in an attempt to save your pet dogs. As they must be of equal importance.
No, by that logic one would simply not stab my dog and leave it to die slowly, by your logic however I would be within my rights to walk around shooting peoples pets, feeling fully justified because I am a 'superior human' and consequently meant to act like the animals you so scornfully claim superiority to?
I'm not saying that animals don't have rights, or that they should be mistreated, but declairing someone "scum" for legally hunting a single elephant.


An arrow doesn't kill instantly. Even when hunting dear you have to wait hours before approaching an animal you've hit because of the chance that it might not be dead, and could jump back up once you get too close. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why you would wait overnight before getting near such an animal.


P.S. Unless you'r above eating beef or chicken, don't complain about one elephant being some lady with a bow and arrow (at least it had a chance).
So why not hunt more efficiently? There is no honour or skill in shooting a docile animal from a distance, I could throw a brick at a cow with the same skill levels.
So, You'r suggesting that she should have used an extreame high-powered rifle, shooting it accuratly from hundreds of yards away, giving it no chance what-so-ever to escape (killing it "efficiently")?

Elephants may look like gentile-giants, but are very aggressive, and extreamely dangerous if you get to close (up to 200 people per year die from elephant attaks in india alone). If her shot was anything short of perfect it could have easily been her last.
I was suggesting that if someone feels the need to slaughter an animal to prove their worth, they might as well make it a clean death. How was it a perfect shot? The poor creature took hours to die.
 

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How the fuck can she be boast about that? She didn't even kill it outright she left it die overnight before she would even approach it.

Well done *****, you shot an elephant from 12 yards away, brilliant marksmanship, perhaps you could further impress us by successfully hitting a house with a sling shot.

Not impressive at all.
 

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Disgusting. That's the only word for this. She can hardly claim SHE was the one that killed it. Time killed that elephant, she left the poor thing overnight for god's sake!

However I wouldn't be any more impressed if she had killed it instantly. There's no reason for shit like this to be happening...Once again I've lost still more faith in humanity.

I need to go work of this frustration, excuse me...
Yeah I'm with you on this one, have people not got anything better to fucking do, than kill elephants?

*Sigh*
 

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Too bad it died.
But hey, great shot. But why did your semi retarded self leave it out overnight to bleed and die?
exactly when you hunt arent ya supposed kill it cleanly not leave it to die?? wat an asshole
 

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Flytch said:
TMAN10112 said:
Flytch said:
TMAN10112 said:
Flytch said:
TMAN10112 said:
Flytch said:
iain62a said:
I for one have no problem with this.

It's only an animal. We, as humans, are far superior to them, so I'd say we have the right to kill them.

I'm not one to go chasing elephants, but I am impressed by this.
How are we superior to them? How often do you see an elephant wound a human maliciously and leave them to die? There is nothing impressive about what she did, just another example of the scum our society produces.
By that logic, you should also risk your life and the well-being of your only child by jumping into a river in an attempt to save your pet dogs. As they must be of equal importance.
No, by that logic one would simply not stab my dog and leave it to die slowly, by your logic however I would be within my rights to walk around shooting peoples pets, feeling fully justified because I am a 'superior human' and consequently meant to act like the animals you so scornfully claim superiority to?
I'm not saying that animals don't have rights, or that they should be mistreated, but declairing someone "scum" for legally hunting a single elephant.


An arrow doesn't kill instantly. Even when hunting dear you have to wait hours before approaching an animal you've hit because of the chance that it might not be dead, and could jump back up once you get too close. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why you would wait overnight before getting near such an animal.


P.S. Unless you'r above eating beef or chicken, don't complain about one elephant being some lady with a bow and arrow (at least it had a chance).
So why not hunt more efficiently? There is no honour or skill in shooting a docile animal from a distance, I could throw a brick at a cow with the same skill levels.
So, You'r suggesting that she should have used an extreame high-powered rifle, shooting it accuratly from hundreds of yards away, giving it no chance what-so-ever to escape (killing it "efficiently")?

Elephants may look like gentile-giants, but are very aggressive, and extreamely dangerous if you get to close (up to 200 people per year die from elephant attaks in india alone). If her shot was anything short of perfect it could have easily been her last.
I was suggesting that if someone feels the need to slaughter an animal to prove their worth, they might as well make it a clean death. How was it a perfect shot? The poor creature took hours to die.
It takes a perfect shot to kill an elephant with a bow (or most other weapons for that matter), if it wasn't a shot directly to it's vitals then it would have recovered within minuets. A "clean" kill can't be made on game that large with anything less then an extreame high-powered rifle (which would be nothing short of a turkey-shoot). Hunting an elephant with a bow is like hunting deer with a blow-gun.
 

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impressive but cruel,im the first person to say that we our superior to animals but i still belief that they can fell pain and emotions.
I say it all the time...people look at me like I'm insane or something.
well your not insane its entirely logical to show our superiority
No, I mean that animals have feelings and emotions, and that they feel pain.
well your still not insane they can fell pain and emotions, take my dog for example it can tell when people are upset and is overjoyed when i return from school