Surprise Surprise, Indigenous Water Protectors Have Been Proven Right Again
The latest rupture in the Keystone Pipeline released almost 600,000 gallons of oil into surrounding soil and a creek in Kansas.
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Keystone Pipe Line Leak Spews Oil Into Kansas' Water
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Having crude oil in your drinking water makes you more American. (eagle screech)
You think they just chose to move next to a pipeline, or did they just build one where they were living already?
Giving some serious Ben "just sell your house when water levels rise" Shapiro energy here my dude. Maybe don't build pipelines near homes?
Hey, maybe that pipeline has been there since before the area was settled. One of them ancient pipelines.
It didn't cause a massive leak when the British were in charge, just sayin'.
It really depends on whether the residents were idiots or the oil companies were idiots. There's zero reason an oil pipeline needs to be built anywhere near a population center of any kind. It could just as easily be built to go around such centers without effecting it's efficiency. On the other hand, if the oil pipeline was there and they decided to build their homes near it, that's on the residents isn't it?
Really though, they should have built some sort of backup into these pipelines so that this kind of thing doesn't happen.
The first paragraph of the article in the first post in this thread:
"In 2016, Indigenous activists known as water protectors protested the Dakota Access Pipeline, which was slated to cut through Standing Rock Sioux reservation. The water protectors argued that inevitable oil spills from the pipeline would poison the land’s water supply, and now a massive oil spill in Kansas has proven them right … again."
The people running the oil companies, or the governments working with/for them don't get their water from there, so no reason to.
It would then be incumbent on residents to assume that corporations are incapable of operating safely?
I mean, the residents were there first, but even if they weren't it would be the corp's fault.
Actually, if they weren't there first it would be the fault of the residents. There is always the possibility of an accident and anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that. So if someone decides to built a house near an oil pipeline and then a massive oil spill happens, the result is the fault of the resident for being stupid enough to actually built their homes anywhere near it.
Now, on the other hand, if the corporation decides to build the pipeline right over a population center or the water source said population centers use, then it's the corporation's fault.
So it's the corporation's fault for building a pipeline over water instead of under or around it. Even if there was a spill the pipeline should be built so that there's zero risk of contamination.
Well, aside from preventing themselves from losing product you mean.
If you acknowledge that an accident is always a possibility, then you are implicitly agreeing the creator and operator should have adequately prepared for that eventuality. Which means it is back on the company. Stop blaming people for shit that is obviously the fault of billionaires.
There was always the possibility of me hitting people in the head with a club, it's his fault for not wearing a helmet.
Now, I wouldn't want to build a house near a pipeline, for fear the people running it would fail in their responsibilities and let a leak happen, but it's still their responsibility not to let a leak happen.
I mean, whose fault is it really if you get hit by a drink driver? The driver, who was already drinking, or you for leaving your house in December, a month well-known for increased levels of drink driving.
The "possibility of an accident" is only at the level that it is because the corporations have failed to properly prepare, and then repeatedly lied about how well prepared they were. It's not some innate risk: it is the direct result of the corporations' decisions and dishonesty.
You're essentially blaming the residents for trusting their public institutions, and letting those same institutions off the hook for the negligence that actually caused the problem.
"You should have known that I was going to eventually murder everyone in the neighborhood before you moved here. It's all on you."
To use your analogy, it's more like "You knew I was a serial killer that regularly murders everybody on the block before you decided to move here. Yet you decided to move here anyway."
Accidents happen sooner or later to even the best most robust system, and it's not like oil pipelines failing is a new thing. If the residents decided to live near an oil pipeline that was already there before they moved there then they knew and accepted the risks involved. It's like working at any incredibly dangerous job, you knew there was a chance however remote you could be badly injured or killed despite every possible safety measure before you went in but you made the choice to do so anyway.
If the corporations built a pipeline around homes that already existed? That's an entirely different matter.
It is like working a dangerous job. But in a dangerous job the risk is high and significant measures have been taken to prevent accidents. AND more measures taken to minimise harm when those accidents happen.
Oil lines cut costs in the minimise harm department because they have already accepted the 1 off cleanup cost is cheaper (to them) than maintaining a system which would minimise the damage, over the lifetime of the line/rig.
Each oil spill in the last 30 years has a less significant public reaction (than the one before) and the oil companies are noticing and betting on that public apathy.
Point in case, you have accepted oil spills are just a thing that happens, and blaming people for being near.
Oil lines cut costs in the minimise harm department because they have already accepted the 1 off cleanup cost is cheaper (to them) than maintaining a system which would minimise the damage, over the lifetime of the line/rig.
Each oil spill in the last 30 years has a less significant public reaction (than the one before) and the oil companies are noticing and betting on that public apathy.
Point in case, you have accepted oil spills are just a thing that happens, and blaming people for being near.