Killzone: Shadowfall - Why didn't the ISA just tell...

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Paragon Fury

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...the Helghast to fuck off instead of letting them settle on Vecta?

I don't have a PS4 yet, so I didn't get to play Shadowfall. But having played all the previous console Killzones I have to ask...why DID the ISA let the Helghast settle on Vecta?

Is it ever explained in game?

You'd think after having the majority of their fleet destroyed by the ISA or by their own weapons, their planet devastated by the very weapon they planned to use on Vecta, most of their experienced soldiers and commanders dead, most of their government dead and the ISA, while their fleet mangled, had many more resources and had a relatively stable environment from which to rebuild.

In addition, it should've been pretty obvious to Vectans by now that the aggression and violence of the Helghast was pretty socially and culturally ingrained into them; you don't reach that level of military technology and fanatical devotion and military effectiveness with slaves and conscripts. So there is no reason for the Vectans to share.

So why did the ISA tell the Helghast to take their handful of ships and get fucked? Or even just wipe them out completely when they came looking for aid - which they would be perfectly justified in doing, knowing the Helghast had been developing planet-scale WMDs for use on Vecta - assuming any Helghast ships were possible WMDs?
 

Sniper Team 4

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Because not all Helghast are monsters. The games so far has shown a very limited view of them. All we've seen are the military, and they are not nice. However, there was one part in 2 where we get a glimpse of something more. When you take over the train, you surprise an engineer and he is terrified. He begs for his life, saying he's not a soldier, he just runs the train. And Rico lets him go. That's our first real glimpse that the Helghast aren't as evil as they've been made out to be.

Jump forward to Shadowfall and we find out that a great many people--possibly even the majority--of Helghast descent want nothing to do with their government or the military. They jump at the chance to live on the Vekta side of the planet, and (spoiler alert) are terrified when they are forced to go back.
Basically what happened was that when Helghan was destroyed by their own super weapon, the devastation was so great that the war against them was called off. They were no longer a threat, but a people in need of help. It was a humanitarian crisis, and the only solution that could be found was allowing the survivors to live on Vekta. A dumb idea, to be sure, but I believe Vekta was the closest habitable planet and they needed to move people now.

What you are purposing would be the same thing as the Allies going in and gunning down every single German and Italian citizen after claiming victory, or the U.S. nuking Japan over and over until the country and its people were literally wiped from the map. That is not war, it is genocide. Yes, the Helghast were willing to use that weapon against Earth, but that doesn't mean that Earth should do the same to them, especially when not all Helghast are crazed lunatics bent on revenge for something that happened centuries ago.
 

Joseph Harrison

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I definitely think the Vectans were justified in letting the Helghan settle on Vecta, I mean Genocide is usually a no-no in politics. But it is fucking stupid the whole starting of the game, why aren't the Helghan demilitarized after the war? Why are Vectans being kicked out and killed by Helghan soldiers, shouldn't the ISA be taking care of their own civilians? It just seemed a bit contrived to me
 

Zontar

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Joseph Harrison said:
I definitely think the Vectans were justified in letting the Helghan settle on Vecta, I mean Genocide is usually a no-no in politics. But it is fucking stupid the whole starting of the game, why aren't the Helghan demilitarized after the war? Why are Vectans being kicked out and killed by Helghan soldiers, shouldn't the ISA be taking care of their own civilians? It just seemed a bit contrived to me
Probably turning a blind eye to those who took too long. I mean lets be honest, the Helghan military government government, its totalitarian mindset, and the repeated wars and later genocide against the Helghan are all, without exception, a result of the ISA's malevolent actions.

The ISA are pretty much some of the biggest pricks in fiction, and are only the "good" side of the Killzone franchise by virtue of the player characters being on their side. I mean for god sake Vekta was their until they where forced from it due to jealousy over how successful they'd made it from the ISA. I honestly feel no sympathy for the ISA's problems when it comes to the Helghan, they're simply reaping what they sowed.
 

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Zontar said:
Joseph Harrison said:
Probably turning a blind eye to those who took too long. I mean lets be honest, the Helghan military government government, its totalitarian mindset, and the repeated wars and later genocide against the Helghan are all, without exception, a result of the ISA's malevolent actions.

The ISA are pretty much some of the biggest pricks in fiction, and are only the "good" side of the Killzone franchise by virtue of the player characters being on their side.
Which is ironic, because the Helghast are a direct parallel to post-Treaty of Versailles Germany with the ISA being France. Like, if you read the lore the analogy is preeeeeettty obvious. Yeah, I just think the intro could have done a better idea setting itself up instead of directly dumping you into the Helghan occupied zone without a clear idea of how long it took the city to get this way.
 

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Joseph Harrison said:
Zontar said:
Joseph Harrison said:
Probably turning a blind eye to those who took too long. I mean lets be honest, the Helghan military government government, its totalitarian mindset, and the repeated wars and later genocide against the Helghan are all, without exception, a result of the ISA's malevolent actions.

The ISA are pretty much some of the biggest pricks in fiction, and are only the "good" side of the Killzone franchise by virtue of the player characters being on their side.
Which is ironic, because the Helghast are a direct parallel to post-Treaty of Versailles Germany with the ISA being France. Like, if you read the lore the analogy is preeeeeettty obvious. Yeah, I just think the intro could have done a better idea setting itself up instead of directly dumping you into the Helghan occupied zone without a clear idea of how long it took the city to get this way.
I have to disagree, the French where not nearly as big dicks to Germany as the ISA was to the Helghan. I mean, they literally forced them off the nice planet they owned to steal their wealth and kicked them onto the planet they owned that is a very shitty place to live, and act righteous when the Helghan try to take back what was rightfully theirs, then invade the Helghan's new world to teach them a new lesson, then unleash a genocidal weapon against the Helghan that the Helghan where completely justified in building and using given the repeated threat to their existence the ISA had proven itself to be (and showed itself to be straight up genocidal). There's no ammount of Nuremberg trials would make the ISA redeemable until a full generation after the events of the games.