Kitten found buried alive in concrete.

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idarkphoenixi

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Somewhere in Colorado city a small kitten was found alive (barely) buried half in concrete. A man by the name of Andrew Chatwin found the small feline and with great effort managed dig it up and chip away at the concrete 'coffin' until the kitten could be removed. It was immediately sent to the local animal sancturary. Unfortunately the damage was already done and it died it not long after.


It's believed this was some kind of warning from a sect of Mormon polygamists. The kitten belonged to a former member who spoke out against the church and it's leader Warren Jeffs, a man who sexually assaulted two underage girls and is now serving life in prison as a result.
Andrew Chatwin, the one who found and rescued the cat is also a former member who said that animal abuses like this are nothing new and have been happening for years.


Video evidence provided below but be warned: it may be disturbing if you're an animal lover like me


EDIT: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/cat-buried-in-concrete-colorado-city-az_n_1660320.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
Just in case anyone wants to read the full story

EDIT 2: Seems this thread has been derailed quite a bit, d'oh wells...
 

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Damn cultists.
Throw one of your own in an open construction pit next time, leave the animals alone.

I despise PETA but this shit just get's me really riled up.
 

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I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
 

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
It's not always that kind of choice. It's not always a choice between saving a human and saving an animal. Pretty often, like here, it's a choice between saving an animal and not saving an animal. Saving a human was never part of the question to begin with.
 

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
You do realize you're an animal too right? You're a mammal. Just because you have higher thinking skills doesn't make you somehow better than that kitten. In fact, by that comment I'm pretty sure you're not.

There was no split-second decision "should I save the human baby or should I save the kitten?" And how the hell do you "accidentally" bury a kitten alive in concrete? You do realize that you have to WATCH where you put concrete right? And if you're just letting it pour without paying attention, you're doing it wrong.

I don't know if this whole mormon thing is true or not, but whether it is or isn't, that doesn't mean that someone isn't a total asshole for letting that kitten get hurt. Yeah there are suffering people out there, but that doesn't mean that we should see a kitten and let it get hurt just because somewhere someone else is suffering. It doesn't help the people suffering and doesn't help the kitten. Saying that you're not going to help a kitten because somewhere a person is in need of help is just trying to be lazy so you don't have to do the right thing!

Stop and think about it! That kitten WAS ALIVE AND BURIED IN CONCRETE!!!! Stop and think for a moment about how UTTERLY TERRIFYING that is! And that kitten had to die because either someone was being malicious or someone was being stupid. If we can't keep even something like that from happening, then we sure as hell can't help ourselves.
 

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Screamarie said:
krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
You do realize you're an animal too right? You're a mammal. Just because you have higher thinking skills doesn't make you somehow better than that kitten. In fact, by that comment I'm pretty sure you're not.
I think kittens are real cute too, but that's insanity.
 

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Screamarie said:
krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
You do realize you're an animal too right? You're a mammal. Just because you have higher thinking skills doesn't make you somehow better than that kitten.
I cut out the rage parts because I can understand it and can sympathize, but this sentence is just... ewww. Humans are certainly better than every other animal; it's why we're at the top of the food chain. Sure, we're animals, but we're the best animals ever! Leaps and bounds above the rest. If we didn't value human lives above all else, we'd be a failure as a species.
 

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Screamarie said:
Really couldn't agree more. It irks me so much when people use the age old excuse of "these things happen all the time or "humans are more important"

Sure, if I had to make a split second decision I'd opt for saving the drowning baby but as you said there was no human life in danger. Unless the guy was supposed to immediately go searching around the entire neighbourhood just to make sure nobody more important needed his help.

We might have a higher cognitive function than any other animal but I'm pretty sure the whole 'buried alive' thing is something we can all relate to as one of the more terrifying ways to go out.

Jack the Potato said:
I cut out the rage parts because I can understand it and can sympathize, but this sentence is just... ewww. Humans are certainly better than every other animal; it's why we're at the top of the food chain. Sure, we're animals, but we're the best animals ever! Leaps and bounds above the rest. If we didn't value human lives above all else, we'd be a failure as a species.
Goes for this post too. Valuing a human life over an animal is totally different, no choice was being required here is was a simple matter of yes or no.
Thinking a friend has more value than the pet dog who's always stealing your socks in the morning is something almost everyone would agree with but that doesn't suddenly make it acceptable to allow that dog to get horribly tortured - "oh well, it's just an animal"

Humans are superior but with that power comes a responsibility. Plus, it's a kitten - scientifically proven to be one of the most adorable creatures on the planet. Who in their right mind could just walk by something like that happening and do nothing about it.
 

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piinyouri said:
Damn cultists.
Throw one of your own in an open construction pit next time, leave the animals alone.

I despise PETA but this shit just get's me really riled up.
PETA kills 90% of the animals they save. In one famous case, they hired an industrial freezer and placed every single animal they had just "rescued" from an animal testing lab into it, ending all their lives. They claimed this was to "end suffering," but many vets and wildlife experts argued the vast bulk of the animals were in fine health. The truth is, PETA just didn't want to pay to keep all those creatures around.

I'm pro animal rights and a staunch vegetarian, but I detest PETA. Trust me, they are horrible extremists, on par with any terrorist group.
 

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I would beat some mo-fos with a cane if I found my dog buried in concrete. (Though, it'd have to be a pretty big pipe or whatever they stuck her in.)

That kitten died too. Are the Mormons that Mafia now? I'm surprised he didn't wake up with a kitten head in his bed.
 

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What a fucked up stupid way to send a warning. They just dropped it down the tube? How do the ranchers even know the cult did it? And if the kitten had, say, landed on its head, it might've gone completely unnoticed. Not a very effective warning then. Kinda wondering if it was just some sort of freak accident. Not sure exactly how, but strange shit does happen.

If someone did do it, I propose we give 'em cement shoes and take 'em for a long walk off a short pier.
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
PETA kills 90% of the animals they save. In one famous case, they hired an industrial freezer and placed every single animal they had just "rescued" from an animal testing lab into it, ending all their lives. They claimed this was to "end suffering," but many vets and wildlife experts argued the vast bulk of the animals were in fine health. The truth is, PETA just didn't want to pay to keep all those creatures around.
and didn;t Movie Bob even say that essentially in Petas "mission statments/core belives" that they don;t actually belive in pets or keeping pets....so technically they think your dog is better off dead than as somones pet

oh not to mention speading lies and misinformation about meat eating....sure vegan/vegetaran has health benefits blah blh blah but don;t fucking try and concince people that eating meat is on par with smoking..its pure propaganda

[quote/]I'm pro animal rights and a staunch vegetarian, but I detest PETA. Trust me, they are horrible extremists, on par with any terrorist group.[/quote]

couldn't agree more...if their focus wasnt so socially acceptable they'd be as hated as the KKK
 

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Vault101 said:
Clearing the Eye said:
PETA kills 90% of the animals they save. In one famous case, they hired an industrial freezer and placed every single animal they had just "rescued" from an animal testing lab into it, ending all their lives. They claimed this was to "end suffering," but many vets and wildlife experts argued the vast bulk of the animals were in fine health. The truth is, PETA just didn't want to pay to keep all those creatures around.
and didn;t Movie Bob even say that essentially in Petas "mission statments/core belives" that they don;t actually belive in pets or keeping pets....so technically they think your dog is better off dead than as somones pet

oh not to mention speading lies and misinformation about meat eating....sure vegan/vegetaran has health benefits blah blh blah but don;t fucking try and concince people that eating meat is on par with smoking..its pure propaganda

[quote/]I'm pro animal rights and a staunch vegetarian, but I detest PETA. Trust me, they are horrible extremists, on par with any terrorist group.
couldn't agree more...if their focus wasnt so socially acceptable they'd be as hated as the KKK[/quote]You are correct about the pet owning thing; they firmly believe (and tell others) that pets are a form of, I'm not kidding, "slavery."

PETA also said factory farming is the same as the Holocaust. I hate factory farming, but to have the nerve to say farming animals for food in horrible conditions is even a little akin to mass torture and genocide is... unfathomable. They later apologized for offending the public, but only after mass outrage.

One example of many, displaying their Holocaust beliefs:

 

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Vault101 said:
couldn't agree more...if their focus wasnt so socially acceptable they'd be as hated as the KKK
Wait what? You could apply that to anything. "If the focus of LGBT groups weren't so socially acceptable they'd be as hated as the KKK." The reason what they're doing IS so socially acceptable is because it's nowhere near as bad as what the KKK does.

And naturally there are the cries of "Who cares about animals when people need help?" To begin with, I guarantee that the people making these complaints aren't doing a fucking thing to help ANYONE. Secondly, if I had the choice between saving a person and saving an animal, I'd choose the animal.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
Wait what? You could apply that to anything. "If the focus of LGBT groups weren't so socially acceptable they'd be as hated as the KKK." The reason what they're doing IS so socially acceptable is because it's nowhere near as bad as what the KKK does.
ok, they arent as bad as the KKK

what I ment is its socially acceptible because most of us can at least agree "we should be nice to animals"....

PETA with its extremeism, propaganda and malpractice....is much like any extremeist group (I don;t know how mcuh "save the animals" terrorism they have been involved in but I imagine they attract the kinds of people who are inclined to that) I feel that they fool people a little more because on the surface "save the animals" isn't unreasonable

as for LGBT people, granted there are probably groups and extremeists but I don;t they are one "group" that fly unter the same rules (though I imagine there are some misguided people in PETA)


[quote/]And naturally there are the cries of "Who cares about animals when people need help?" To begin with, I guarantee that the people making these complaints aren't doing a fucking thing to help ANYONE. Secondly, if I had the choice between saving a person and saving an animal, I'd choose the animal.[/quote]

the thing is its NEVER an issue of choosing animals over humans....
 

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Jean Hag said:
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
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are you kidding? animals are cruel and sadistic cunts....they also destroy the environemtn like a cancar if they are a noxious species (granted some of that is due to human error but I havnt seen any cain toads go "hey guys...mabye we should be nicer to the natves")

animals are not better than us...or worse because you simply cannot apply morality to them
 

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I don't think I want to watch the video of this. Wet concrete can be nasty If your skin stays in contact with it a long time.

This is monstrous.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
If I had the choice between saving a person and saving an animal, I'd choose the animal.
And that's kind of what's wrong all over, Some how people are incapable for feeling empathy for their own.

Well you know what, until people are animals will always be treated like shit.
 

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Vault101 said:
ok, they arent as bad as the KKK

what I ment is its socially acceptible because most of us can at least agree "we should be nice to animals"....

PETA with its extremeism, propaganda and malpractice....is much like any extremeist group (I don;t know how mcuh "save the animals" terrorism they have been involved in but I imagine they attract the kinds of people who are inclined to that) I feel that they fool people a little more because on the surface "save the animals" isn't unreasonable

as for LGBT people, granted there are probably groups and extremeists but I don;t they are one "group" that fly unter the same rules (though I imagine there are some misguided people in PETA)
My issue was one of semantics. You essentially said "If what they were doing weren't acceptable it would be unacceptable". The LGBT thing was just an unrelated example.

I don't like PETA but at worst they are doing what everyone else is doing- unnecessarily killing animals. At best they are raising awareness. Yes, they have crappy methods and they do stupid shit, but I've never bought the whole "they turn people off animal rights" bullshit. You either give a fuck about animals or you don't.

Hoplon said:
manic_depressive13 said:
If I had the choice between saving a person and saving an animal, I'd choose the animal.
And that's kind of what's wrong all over, Some how people are incapable for feeling empathy for their own.

Well you know what, until people are animals will always be treated like shit.
I don't understand how people simply refuse to empathise with things that don't belong to their own group, despite sharing obvious traits like the ability to feel pain, fear and love.

To the bolded: What.