Left 4 Dead thoughts
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Looks like a really good multiplayer game. I will play this at my cousins house but I will not buy it because I don't trust AI buddies.
I look forward to killing the zombie horde with three of my friends but I can see some problems with it.
1) The levels look very repetitive. I know Valve say they have randomly placed zombies, but it looks like the game involves running forward, killing stuff, getting ammo, repeating. There doesn't seem to be anything to break up the gameplay such as Half Life's puzzles or Halo's vehicle sections etc that stops the gameplay from becoming stale.
2)Lack of a storyline. I need motivation or character development in the games I play, otherwise I don't like to continue playing. Survival isn't enough motivation for me to keep on playing, and four characters randomly meeting up and then going and killing zombies isn't very good character development. I could be wrong here, I suppose I need to read reviews to learn more about the story.
3)This games singleplayer is it's multiplayer. Unlike games like CoD4, Halo 3 or Gears of War I can't spend around ten days on singleplayer and then go and waste days on multiplayer. I can only spend 30 hours (tops) on multiplayer before I've beaten it and don't have any more reasons for playing it. There seems to be no replayabilty unless certain parts are really, really fun to play out. Looking at the gameplay, I doubt this.
Unlike other games *cough*Fallout 3, GoW2, Mirrors Edge*endcough* I'm going to need to do more research before I'm sold.
1) The levels look very repetitive. I know Valve say they have randomly placed zombies, but it looks like the game involves running forward, killing stuff, getting ammo, repeating. There doesn't seem to be anything to break up the gameplay such as Half Life's puzzles or Halo's vehicle sections etc that stops the gameplay from becoming stale.
2)Lack of a storyline. I need motivation or character development in the games I play, otherwise I don't like to continue playing. Survival isn't enough motivation for me to keep on playing, and four characters randomly meeting up and then going and killing zombies isn't very good character development. I could be wrong here, I suppose I need to read reviews to learn more about the story.
3)This games singleplayer is it's multiplayer. Unlike games like CoD4, Halo 3 or Gears of War I can't spend around ten days on singleplayer and then go and waste days on multiplayer. I can only spend 30 hours (tops) on multiplayer before I've beaten it and don't have any more reasons for playing it. There seems to be no replayabilty unless certain parts are really, really fun to play out. Looking at the gameplay, I doubt this.
Unlike other games *cough*Fallout 3, GoW2, Mirrors Edge*endcough* I'm going to need to do more research before I'm sold.
The "shuffling easy head shot zombies" are dangerous because of their numbers and the player not having many resources or places to run, in games with harder zombies you fight less and have more.
Or you can have Dead Rising, but the zombies weren't the real enemies.
Or you can have Dead Rising, but the zombies weren't the real enemies.
The game looks like it has a lot of potential to be great, but it also has a greater potential to be a massive pile of fail. Valve had better be working at this like they did the original Half-Life.
It looks good. Of course, it always LOOKS good.
But Valve and me have a relationship of trust. If this game breaks my trust, then I'll start treating them like EA. If it turns out to be awesome, then I'll keep on buying headcrab hats and cake shirts and Black Mesa parking stickers and AScience motivational posters.
I'll admit, though, FireDaemon, your point #2 looks valid, but rafter all, it's just a trailer. One reason I forgive Valve for repeated delays is because I assume they're not happy with the product yet, and want to make it better.
But Valve and me have a relationship of trust. If this game breaks my trust, then I'll start treating them like EA. If it turns out to be awesome, then I'll keep on buying headcrab hats and cake shirts and Black Mesa parking stickers and AScience motivational posters.
I'll admit, though, FireDaemon, your point #2 looks valid, but rafter all, it's just a trailer. One reason I forgive Valve for repeated delays is because I assume they're not happy with the product yet, and want to make it better.
Like any game receiving a lot of hype or praise, I will of course reserve my opinion for later. But Valve has a great track record of sucking away a lot of my free time with shooters, and this will probably be no exception. Of course, this probably has to be played with real folks in multiplayer for the full experience. Anything else I think just wouldn't cut the mustard.
The key is not to release with bugs, which will kill a dynamic game like this one. if "the Director" doesn't work correctly and suddenly decides to up the difficulty when it isn't needed, you could get a lot of PO'd players.
The key is not to release with bugs, which will kill a dynamic game like this one. if "the Director" doesn't work correctly and suddenly decides to up the difficulty when it isn't needed, you could get a lot of PO'd players.
This is looking very nice. I have a three competent people to play with at the moment, the other is going to get mistaken for a zombie a lot. Should be fun, but like every game there is always the possibility of huge, crushing, disappointment.
People have really gotta stop making this thread
But aside I think the only game I'm more excited for than Left 4 Dead is Fallout 3
But aside I think the only game I'm more excited for than Left 4 Dead is Fallout 3
The thing about what you just said is this... its not supposed to have that stuff. Your killing zombies, and i for one find that awesome. I will admit there is a sick part of me that almost wishes a zombie apocalypse would happen, just so i can go down to mcbrides guns with my friends and fackin own zombies. And now valve has made a game where the first and only goal is "Survive the zombie apocalypse by any means"? sounds amazing.Fire Daemon post=9.70734.701202 said:
It reminds me a bit too much of CS zombie mod, but if it gets some good reviews and if people on this thread say they really enjoy it, then I might consider getting it.
my "4" thought "4" left "for" dead is that it is great "4" anyone who is a major fan of multi-player and is "4" a change in scenery.
but I am not "4" multi-player so I probably won't pick it up.
but I am not "4" multi-player so I probably won't pick it up.
You know what it could really use? A demo. That should do a lot for it.
Of course, it wouldn't be more than shooting a few zombies with some expository stuff, a hint of the plot. From what I get now, it sounds like just shoot, run, hide, shoot, but Valve wouldn't do such a thing, would they? (Note: They didn't make CS, they bought it).
Anyway, anyone want to plan some Steam online games with the Escapist?
Of course, it wouldn't be more than shooting a few zombies with some expository stuff, a hint of the plot. From what I get now, it sounds like just shoot, run, hide, shoot, but Valve wouldn't do such a thing, would they? (Note: They didn't make CS, they bought it).
Anyway, anyone want to plan some Steam online games with the Escapist?