Lets talk about what's next for Super Heroes.

[bjj hero]

Our current batch of live action super heroes have been doing it for a while now. Ironman and Hulk might be OK, theyre mostly CGI, but Captain America and Thor are going to struggle to keep that physique as they age. So who do you want to see next?

Id like to see a nasty and dark Punisher on TV. The low super powers high violence means it could work really well. Im only on season one of Dare Devil so Ive not seen him yet.

Id also like to see Thunderbolts or Champions replace our aging big screen heroes instead of a reboot.

So how would you do it as head of DC/Marvel?

 

[Saelune]

Punisher is getting a Netflix series.

I hope the kid playing Spider-Man sticks with it. Id be fine to have adult Spider-Man.

I dont want the MCU to end as long as I live. One thing I dont like about comics though, is that it often status-quo's and timeshifts itself. I mean, Captain America is always WWII, but Iron Man keeps moving to a more recent war.

Eventually Id want them to just make their own plots based off the events they have set up instead of just adapting comic arcs.

 

[Zontar]

For Cap and Thor the answers are pretty obvious. In Cap's case he's going to become a legacy character, hell there's already a good dozen who have taken up the title in the comics already. As for Thor, once Hemsworth can't do it anymore they'll just say he returned to Asgard and that'll be it.


I would also like to point out that Punisher has a series currently filming and set for release later this year. (edit: ninja'd god damn it son of a ***** and within 60 seconds too)

As for what I'd like to see, first I'd like someone to answer the question of just how the legal rights to Alpha Flight are between Marvel and Fox given the nature of the team means co-ownership of the movie rights is incredibly likely. I want them and Department H to show up and do something, and it's not like they aren't already in the MCU given they where explicitly mentioned by name in AoS.

I'd also like to see the Skrull show up. They also explicitly exist in the MCU and simply have their movie rights be co-owned (though Marvel can't use the Queen or Super Skrull. Not all Super Skrull, just the character Super Skrull).

 

[bjj hero]

Punisher is getting a Netflix series.

Im excited about Pun. Frank Castle is fantastic. Hes like Blue collar Batman.

As for what I'd like to see, first I'd like someone to answer the question of just how the legal rights to Alpha Flight are between Marvel and Fox given the nature of the team means co-ownership of the movie rights is incredibly likely. I want them and Department H to show up and do something, and it's not like they aren't already in the MCU given they where explicitly mentioned by name in AoS.

I'd also like to see the Skrull show up. They also explicitly exist in the MCU and simply have their movie rights be co-owned (though Marvel can't use the Queen or Super Skrull. Not all Super Skrull, just the character Super Skrull).

Im sure licence stuff can be sorted. Spiderman worked out and Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch made it into Age of Ultron, they just couldn't use the "M" word.

Id like to se Namor, the Submariner. I loved how in the Ultimates he sat on the Immuminati (the meeting of the most powerful goodguys) AND the Cabal which is the evil version with Dr Doom et al.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

MCU, well, I would just make a shit ton of superhero movies, introducing new (at least to the big screen) characters, but without having some big event that they all lead up to. That way, one day we could really get into Civil War level adaptations.

For the DCEU... reboot that shit. Flashpoint that ************. Then after that, make good movies.

All jokes aside, I want to see Nightwing introduced then have him replace Bruce after maybe three movies. Expanding the Green Lantern stuff would be nice too.

EDIT: Oh, and before Bruce is killed, I demand a Red Hood movie.

 

[Guffe]

My text will include spoilers for a few of the movies.

Marvel needs to start killing of characters.
They've had a few good chances in the past, they did kill Quicksilver and Rhodes is as good as done with the damage he took from the fall. I hope they do this in infinty war, like properly finishes of character.
If they then want to bring back people, it isn't too hard: IronMan and WarMachine are armor, so anyone can control them. Captain America is a supersoldier, he got his powers from a serum, as did Bucky, but they can always give a new origin story to someone like some radiation stuff and he just puts the suit on. Black Panther is already a "title" that is passed on. AntMan and Wasp are suits of armor already used by multiple people. In Thors case the hammer just needs to choose someone else as "worthy" and they get his powers and so on. Bringing people back is quite easy...

But for me the more interesting characters and movies are the ones I've known less about from before, so I'd like more of those.

 

[bjj hero]

I don't care. Just take more risks. At this point, the MCU is just a series of Ironman clones at this point. It's just so formulaic.

I thought they did a variety of films. Antman was a lower stakes heist movie. Winter Soldier is a spy thriller, Thor a fantasy epic, GotG a space opera (Which Green Lantern should be).

I get what youre saying about no one dying, although we lost one in age of ultron, but a lot of films are like that. I never expected Indy to die, or Luke Skywalker. I dont think the films are worse for it.

 

[Catnip1024]

Can I have this yet, please?

Spoiler

Some day, they will run out of obscure hero's and spin-offs, and then the Film industry will start seeing things my way.

 

[bjj hero]

Can I have this yet, please?

Spoiler

Some day, they will run out of obscure hero's and spin-offs, and then the Film industry will start seeing things my way.

That is cool, but for me nothing will beat the 2000AD Batman/Judge Dredd cross over. Batman gets arrested for being a vigilante.

 

[Imre Csete]

I hope Fox comes through with the Irredeemable comic book adaptation, a non-DCU/MCU superhero deconstruction flick would be cool to see in this now oversaturated genre.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Spawn please? We have the technology. We have the tolerance for dark humour, we have the R-rated audience. I don't care if it's gender-flipped, species-flipped, dimension-flipped...Although maybe a less typical depiction of hell would be appreciated...or just ignore that place altogether, get on it, film elves!

 

[Winnosh]

Spawn please? We have the technology. We have the tolerance for dark humour, we have the R-rated audience. I don't care if it's gender-flipped, species-flipped, dimension-flipped...Although maybe a less typical depiction of hell would be appreciated...or just ignore that place altogether, get on it, film elves!

We'd have to come up with a good Spawn story which means keeping McFarlane far far away from writing it.

 

[Tautology]

A Batman Beyond trilogy or a Marvel 2099 cinematic universe.

Spawn please? We have the technology. We have the tolerance for dark humour, we have the R-rated audience. I don't care if it's gender-flipped, species-flipped, dimension-flipped...Although maybe a less typical depiction of hell would be appreciated...or just ignore that place altogether, get on it, film elves!

Todd Mcfarlane has been talking about doing a new Spawn movie for several years and he says that his script is finally finished. His plan is to take it in a horror film direction with Spawn playing a background role. From what Mcfarlane's said so far it sounds similar to the Spawn the Undead miniseries, which I think could work. The hold up is that he wants to direct it himself and no studio wants to take that risk apparently. At the rate things are going, expect a Spawn movie in 2025.

I also heard that Kevin Smith is set to write, produce, and direct a Sam & Twitch TV series for BBC America. I'd get excited, but this is Kevin Smith we're talking about.

 

[Laughing Man]

Regardless of how you describe them...

I am so bored with the nay sayers rolling out the same tired arguments. All the movies are the same, they aren't and regardless of how YOU describe them doesn't suddenly make the movies all the same. GOG is nothing like the Incredible Hulk or Dr Strange, Ironman 3 is nothing like Thor in fact they deal with totally opposite issues. The only argument that is more boring than the tired old 'they are all the same' is the Marvel never kills anyone your version is especially comical because what do Agent Colson, Loki, Groot and The Winter Solider ALL have in common? I'll give you a second to think..


Did you get it, they all get killed in their first movies only to then reappear at a later date, you know just like Gandalf. The idea that killing off main characters some how adds weight or extra meaning to the movie is idiotic. In fact Dr Strange actually used him being constantly killed as quite a clever plot device but I am willing to bet it would have had a whole deeper meaning if he had just been killed outright.... really?

The questions I would ask are

1). Who goes to watch a super hero movie to see the Superhero die?
2). How many Superhero movies have actually had the Superheros die in it, I mean flat out die never come back, never hint at coming back? So far all I got is Quicksliver in Age Of Ultron.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

Logan made me wonder about the feasibility of Dafne Keene returning as X-23 in five or ten years to do a full New X-Men film. A new cast of mutants fighting a megacorp and a corrupt government in a neo-Western cyberpunk dystopia? That sounds rad.

The McAvoy X-Men don't have much room to grow, unfortunately. They jump forward about ten years with every film; it's only a matter of time before they catch up to the originals. They could maybe do one more film set in the late 80s or early 90s. They were gearing up for another shot at the Dark Phoenix plot at the end of Apocalypse, but I don't know how they'd do that without Wolverine.

Captain America will probably be replaced by either Bucky Barnes or Falcon at some point when Chris Evans gets sick of playing the role.

The DC films, it's impossible to plan for what comes after because they haven't really gotten going yet. For all the speed with which BvS threw world-building at the audience, they haven't done terribly much. Maybe that'll change with Justice League. I doubt that the JL will really take off, to be honest.

But what colours my whole opinion of forecasting future superhero films is...I don't think there is much of a future for superhero films. The audience is going to get exhausted. I already don't give a shit about any of the new Marvel movies, the DC films are depressingly star-crossed, X-Men have been going for two decades already...people are going to get sick of it. I mean, remember the years after Lord of the Rings came out and big-budget spectacle fantasy films were all the rage? And then they puttered out of relevance and ended up with the Hobbit and Warcraft? Yeah, that, basically.

 

[PapaGreg096]

Spawn please? We have the technology. We have the tolerance for dark humour, we have the R-rated audience. I don't care if it's gender-flipped, species-flipped, dimension-flipped...Although maybe a less typical depiction of hell would be appreciated...or just ignore that place altogether, get on it, film elves!

Honestly I prefer an Invincible movie, the character is so criminally underrated.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Wellll... I don't know to be honest. The PG-13 superheroes like Avengers (ie. most of the MCU) have started tiring me out. DC is still lagging 10 years behind. Interest in the X-Men franchise films seems to have petered out. The novelty factor is gone. We've gotten used to seeing comic-accurate costumes, specific plot points straight from classic storylines, multi-hero teamups, complex world building across multiple franchises etc. It's no longer impressive.

I think the land of R-rated superhero films is still rather unexplored. Deadpool and Logan have both heralded that, and have proven they can be economically viable. I think the next step could be studios embracing that, and starting to make films about superheroes that need the R-rating to be appropriately faithful to the characters. Like Deadpool and Wolverine, unsurprisingly enough. It's just that the array of characters like that are much slimmer, and have already been covered in either earlier films (like Punisher) or the Marvel Netflix lineup.

Another step, which I hope filmmakers would realize, would be trying to escape the term "superhero movie" altogether. Regardless of film, there's elements that are present: you need the costume, you need the powers, you need an iconic villain, you need a big showdown at the end. That kind of pattern repetition will serve for a while, but gets repetitive eventually (cough MCU cough). I'd much rather see filmmakers start making genre films with superheroes in them. The Dark Knight and Logan are the best examples: the former is a mob/terrorist/crime thriller with Batman and Joker in it, the other is a road trip drama with Wolverine and Xavier in it. The Marvel Netflix series have done this, but it's yet to arrive on the silver screen. Just think of everything you could do! You could do straight up horror films with Batman. Superman and Green Lantern are perfect for cosmic fantasy. Wonder Woman for swords and sandals.

And of course, at the end of all this, at the point which the superhero genre becomes a parody of itself, a walking corpse of a franchise, it's time for the ultimate: Marvel Zombies. Just throw in Superman and Batman there too.

 

[bjj hero]

2). How many Superhero movies have actually had the Superheros die in it, I mean flat out die never come back, never hint at coming back? So far all I got is Quicksliver in Age Of Ultron.

Im mostly on your side, but Ive got to say:

Spoiler

Logan