Logan reviews coming in, so far; overwhelming positivity.

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Not much to this other than...the eponymous film is looking like it hit the sweet spot in our current superhero saturated movie climate. Anyway, time for links!;

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/logan/47387/logan-review
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/17/logan-review-hugh-jackmans-wolverine-enters-a-winter-of-x-men-discontent
http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/17/14611204/logan-review
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/logan-review-hugh-jackmans-last-turn-wolverine/
Rumteetum...
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2017/02/17/review-logan-could-be-first-superhero-movie-to-get-best-picture-nomination/

Okay, that's probably enough. Haven't got much else to add other than this was definitely one of the few superhero films that brought a little excitement in anticipation over the rest. Any other thoughts on this? Anybody else looking forward to seeing or avoiding it? Are these reviews trustworthy or are there alternative reviews out there?

 

[Erttheking]

I have to say, I am rather interested in this movie, so I'm pleased to see that people like it.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I'm watching it next Friday, definitely my most anticipated superhero movie this year.

 

[King Billi]

So then it would seem that from X men Origins to The Wolverine and finally to Logan that each film had significantly improved upon what came before it.

That's interesting since things usually go the other way.

 

[Zontar]

The trailers definitely make it look good, and it's nice to see that Jackman took a paycut because he wanted the movie to be R and that seems to have paid off if the reviews are to be believed.

Here's hoping the upturn in quality is a trend.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Nice! X-men has always been my favorite traditional comic book series, and I have always been fond of the films, so this is a nice surprise (the trailers honestly made this film look like it could go real good or real bad). Now really looking forward to this one. Will also be nice to see a superhero movie outside the traditional mold as well.

Also, anyone else notice that this march/feb is surprisingly strong for movies? John Wick 2 and Lego Batman last week, Get Out next week (which the reviews are also looking very good for), Logan the week after, and the surprisingly great looking GITS movie at the end of march. Not that I am complaining, but still.

 

[tippy2k2]

Huh....maybe it's just the pessimist in me but I thought for sure that the movie was going to be a suck bomb (if for any other reason, what seems to be a bunch of inconsistencies in the trailer (like why his daughter has adamantium claws or why Wolverine looks so old when the older movies established he doesn't really age like we do, though I would assume they may be explained in the movie).

I'm still not certain it's enough to get me into the theater (although it might, we'll see) to see it but I will most certainly catch it right away on Redbox.

 

[votemarvel]

(like why his daughter has adamantium claws

Because X-23 isn't his daughter. She's his clone.

Assuming they stick somewhat close to her comics origin, Laura is created from a DNA sample of Logan where the Y chromosome was damaged and they duplicated the X in order to make it viable.

She was created to be a weapon and indestructible knives would be pretty handy.

 

[tippy2k2]

(like why his daughter has adamantium claws

Because X-23 isn't his daughter. She's his clone.

Assuming they stick somewhat close to her comics origin, Laura is created from a DNA sample of Logan where the Y chromosome was damaged and they duplicated the X in order to make it viable.

She was created to be a weapon and indestructible knives would be pretty handy.

I figured that would be the case and explained in the movie (the trailer specifically calls her his daughter, hence my confusion/question).

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I was this excited to see a movie. It's very hard to keep up my skepticism anymore. The trailers were amazing, and the reviews are great. With Deadpool we got to see an R-rated supehero comedy. With Logan we're getting an R-rated superhero drama. And while there have been those in the past (Watchmen perhaps most prominently), no character has been clamoring for such a film more than Wolverine. Despite the Marvel movies feeling like bland products and the DCEU being a fucked pile of shit at this point, I'm still glad of the direction superhero and comics adaptations seem to be going. We had the baby shits (nearly everything up to the 2000s), then the first steps (the first X-Men movies, Raimi's Spider-Man), then the brooding teenage years (Nolan's Batman era), finally finding the balance (the MCU), and now it seems we're starting to figure out how to do riskier stories properly without turning into overt grimdark. Chances are I'm just talking out of my ass, but if Logan is a herald of things to come, I'll gladly see that future.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

As a sidenote, I really liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine and don't know why the hell it got so much flak.

 

[WolfThomas]

(like why his daughter has adamantium claws or why Wolverine looks so old when the older movies established he doesn't really age like we do, though I would assume they may be explained in the movie).

Hopefully they explain in the movies. In the comics, X23 is a clone of Wolverine, but dupilcating his X-chromosome as the Y was too damage (or using a donor chromosome I can't remember). They couldn't replicate the original process to put adamantium over every bone but they managed to remove her claws coat them in the metal and replace them again.

As for healing. In Old Man logan they imply it's psychological. The stress of what he did (spoilers) meant his powers slowed down and he started not healing entirely. Still slowed aging but not youthfulness.

 

[Erttheking]

As a sidenote, I really liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine and don't know why the hell it got so much flak.

Let me take a guess, as someone who didn't mind it much that either.

Sewing Deadpool "the merc with the mouth"'s mouth shut and turning him into a boring...thing.

So many fire and forget characters. Cyclops is there...so we can say Cyclops was there. Same with Emma Frost. Hey, here's the Blob, enjoy the five minutes he has that contribute next to nothing.

Gambit in particular is a fan favorite character, and he was barely in it.

Retconning the relationship between Sabertooth and Wolverine when there was nothing to hint at their relationship in the first movie.

The fact that Wolverine is unable to beat Sabertooth without adamantium but somehow, the chrome job on his skeleton is supposed to be able to change things.

Any fight between two people who can regenerate is essentially an exercise in futility, as neither of them can actually kill each other (particularly at the end when it's established that even decapitation was ineffective.)

It's the revelation of Wolverine's mysterious past and...it's kind of an underwhelming generic love story for the most part. Heck, The Wolverine spent a tenth of the time on his past and it was a hundred times more interesting.

Not a bad movie, but certainly not a great one.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

Sewing Deadpool "the merc with the mouth"'s mouth shut and turning him into a boring...thing.

So many fire and forget characters. Cyclops is there...so we can say Cyclops was there. Same with Emma Frost. Hey, here's the Blob, enjoy the five minutes he has that contribute next to nothing.

Gambit in particular is a fan favorite character, and he was barely in it.

Retconning the relationship between Sabertooth and Wolverine when there was nothing to hint at their relationship in the first movie.

The fact that Wolverine is unable to beat Sabertooth without adamantium but somehow, the chrome job on his skeleton is supposed to be able to change things.

Any fight between two people who can regenerate is essentially an exercise in futility, as neither of them can actually kill each other (particularly at the end when it's established that even decapitation was ineffective.)

It's the revelation of Wolverine's mysterious past and...it's kind of an underwhelming generic love story for the most part. Heck, The Wolverine spent a tenth of the time on his past and it was a hundred times more interesting.

Not a bad movie, but certainly not a great one.

Eh... Won't defend Deadpool. Don't know what was going on there.

Well, of course the characters don't have much screentime. It's not about them at all. It's obviously about Wolverine.

Retcons happen. Sometimes for good reason. I think this was a good retcon.

Adamantium would have made him much more resistant to Sabertooth's attacks and would allow for all sorts of fun cutting attacks with minimal effort.

Except... No one was decapitated. Logan got a bullet through his skull but that was about it. And hell, it looked like it didn't even go in all the way. Which makes sense since an adamantium bullet against a full adamantium sheet (his skull) isn't going to do all that much for penetration. And in any case, it cost him his memory so it's not like he emerged totally unscathed.

What was so underwhelming about it? I liked it. And the fact that she was forced into betraying Logan by her sister being threatened was a great complication. Perhaps a better question would be, what do you think would have been a better past for Logan?

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Except... No one was decapitated.

Deadpool got decapitated and was shown to still be alive in a post-credits scene, although I think that was only in the home release.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

Except... No one was decapitated.

Deadpool got decapitated and was shown to still be alive in a post-credits scene, although I think that was only in the home release.

Well, ya' know what? That's BS. I don't even care that he survived but at least have him die from something other than decapitation so it's believable. XP

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

And hell, it looked like it didn't even go in all the way. Which makes sense since an adamantium bullet against a full adamantium sheet (his skull) isn't going to do all that much for penetration. And in any case, it cost him his memory so it's not like he emerged totally unscathed.

Except that Adamantium cannot damage Adamantium.

 

[TT Kairen]

And hell, it looked like it didn't even go in all the way. Which makes sense since an adamantium bullet against a full adamantium sheet (his skull) isn't going to do all that much for penetration. And in any case, it cost him his memory so it's not like he emerged totally unscathed.

Except that Adamantium cannot damage Adamantium.

By all logic, it shouldn't be able to, as I'm pretty sure indestructible means indestructible. But apparently for some odd reason, in the comics, adamantium can indeed damage adamantium things.

 

[Pyrian]

...I'm pretty sure indestructible means indestructible.

Eh, but "practically indestructible" still means "technically destructible".

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

But apparently for some odd reason, in the comics, adamantium can indeed damage adamantium things.

Ultimateverse Adamantium can, however it is significantly weaker than normal Adamantium. I haven't read a Wolverine in ages, but I don't recall his blades ever being able to damage anything that was enhanced with the metal.