Main character deaths that would have fixed everything.

[type_zero]

You protagonist is not always doing the right thing, saving the world and all that and in some cases everything would have worked out better if they had just died at some point, before or during the game. What game do you think would have worked out better without the main character f***ing it up?

 

[bombadilillo]

I dont know if this is what your going for...or what you are saying at all.

But I hate the games where you were "tricked" into setting up something and then must spend the 3rd act fixing it. Its an annoying plot when you think.

"If I hadnt started playing, there would be nothing wrong in the gameworld."

 

[Truly-A-Lie]

If I'm understanding this right, then I'll go for the Prince (Prince of Persia 2008). If he died about 90% of the way into the game, everything would be fine.

 

[type_zero]

Oops don't know why this posted twice sorry. I'll delete one

 

[Radoh]

[prototype]

That one doesn't work. Because you see...

Spoiler: Prototype Spoilers

The man Alex Mercer is already dead. He dies when he releases the plague before the game begins. The living embodiment of the infection just uses Alex's form for convenience/ as an imprint.

OT: Kratos. Seriously, kill him off anywhere in the story and the world is better. Before he kills Ares in GoW1 and you don't get dick Kratos mashing up everything in his grand Sparta campaign at the beginning of Gow2. Kill him in GoW2 before he kills anyone else and he won't screw the ENTIRE WORLD over in GoW3. Man does nothing but break the planet.

 

[Ogargd]

Sometimes i think an in game death of the protagonist would be great, especially if they are being particularly stupid, and then for perhaps the third act you take up the role of a different main character whom was obviously never as good as the original.

 

[shadowform]

Not necessarily 'better', but if Vaan had died off ten minutes into Final Fantasy 12, the game wouldn't have changed in any significant way...

 

[Innegativeion]

Link from OoT. I mean, of course, no fan of Zelda would want to lest Hyrule become about 20% less awesome... and we'd be deprived of Majora's mask. But think about it. Had Link not opened the door of time, Ganondorf would have to find a way to open it himself.

He clearly failed to get the emerald from the Great Deku tree,

He probably would get the ruby eventually once the gorons all die of starvation. That or they migrate to another more rocky are and take the ruby with them.

Not even Ganondof, in all his might, could lift a defiant king zora.

He therefor never would have opened the door of time, become a demonic king of evil, and die of old age eventually like any other gerudo. Thus, canceling out all the canonical Zelda games after Skyward Sword that feature Ganon as main antogonist.

Fuckin' time travel, man.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

OT: Kratos. Seriously, kill him off anywhere in the story and the world is better. Before he kills Ares in GoW1 and you don't get dick Kratos mashing up everything in his grand Sparta campaign at the beginning of Gow2. Kill him in GoW2 before he kills anyone else and he won't screw the ENTIRE WORLD over in GoW3. Man does nothing but break the planet.

Or better yet, just let the guy kill himself.

Spoiler: In case you haven't played GOW(the first one)

He was going to kill himself after defeating Aries because the Gods told him they couldn't make him forget all the atrocities he had committed (murdering his own family etc). You know, "And Kratos cast himself from the highest cliff..." etc. etc. but no, the Gods saved him, WHY? To replace Aries? Oh sure that seems like a great idea. Replace a brutal psychotic with an even bigger brutal psychotic. Way to go guys.

 

[Neuromaster]

Arthas from WC3 comes to mind. Well, dying in a "stay dead" way more than a "Lich King" way.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Maybe the entire human side in Gears 1 and 2? The humans really need to stop with the "This one devastating attack will end the war" stratagy. It really doesn't work...

Let's break it down

Gears 1

Spoiler

New uncureable fatal illness to fail at dealing with on the human side and the locusts just lose their uncontrolable vampire bats

Gears 2

Spoiler

The humans blew up their own last remaining city to flood some caves... Yeah i really don't need to elaborate on this one

Final word, the humans need to take a step back and look at things at least half logically, rather than taking the biggest weapon they can find and hitting the enemy with it regardless of collateral damage.

 

[Liudeius]

I was going to say [Prototype].

[prototype]

That one doesn't work. Because you see...

Spoiler: Prototype Spoilers

The man Alex Mercer is already dead. He dies when he releases the plague before the game begins. The living embodiment of the infection just uses Alex's form for convenience/ as an imprint.

But if he were killed just before that, it would all be ok.

Not necessarily 'better', but if Vaan had died off ten minutes into Final Fantasy 12, the game wouldn't have changed in any significant way...

Ha, I fully agree. That's why I hate FFXII.(Though the combat was fun)

 

[TheIronRuler]

[prototype]

That one doesn't work. Because you see...

Spoiler: Prototype Spoilers

The man Alex Mercer is already dead. He dies when he releases the plague before the game begins. The living embodiment of the infection just uses Alex's form for convenience/ as an imprint.

OT: Kratos. Seriously, kill him off anywhere in the story and the world is better. Before he kills Ares in GoW1 and you don't get dick Kratos mashing up everything in his grand Sparta campaign at the beginning of Gow2. Kill him in GoW2 before he kills anyone else and he won't screw the ENTIRE WORLD over in GoW3. Man does nothing but break the planet.

I agree.
If they had killed him in the end of the first I think it might have been an actual Greek tragedy, which would have made the game epic. I tell you, EPIC in the very Greek meaning of the word.
Then they could have made all of those prequels and kill other gods they've forgotten about.

 

[JasonKaotic]

War in Darksiders?

 

[Innegativeion]

Ganondorf WOULD have gotten the Emerald because he infected the GDT with that bug thing. And don't forget he was a master chessmaster. He probably would have tricked the Gorons into waging war against the Zoras or something and took their magic rocks in the chaos. Don't forget Ganondorf already ruled the Gerudos AND worked his way into the inner circle of the King of Hyrule and wow I'm a nerd for knowing all this.

I think Deku said Ganon put the curse on his as punishment for not giving him the emerald. If he couldn't pry the tree's mouth open while alive, I doubt he'd be able to after he's petrified.

And remember, Zelda(who has the 4th key to the door) escapes Ganondorf. He may have found her had he kept chasing instead of following Link, but remember she and impa are able to elude him for 7 years, whilst he sits on his arse playing a creepy organ, sending his minions to eff up the kingdom.

If adult Zelda returns ready to reclaim the throne before Ganondorf opens the door (which he can't without Zelda), I don't think I'd have to think hard about which individual the subjects of Hyrule would trust more.

 

[bombadilillo]

Ganondorf WOULD have gotten the Emerald because he infected the GDT with that bug thing. And don't forget he was a master chessmaster. He probably would have tricked the Gorons into waging war against the Zoras or something and took their magic rocks in the chaos. Don't forget Ganondorf already ruled the Gerudos AND worked his way into the inner circle of the King of Hyrule and wow I'm a nerd for knowing all this.

I think Deku said Ganon put the curse on his as punishment for not giving him the emerald. If he couldn't pry the tree's mouth open while alive, I doubt he'd be able to after he's petrified.

And remember, Zelda(who has the 4th key to the door) escapes Ganondorf. He may have found her had he kept chasing instead of following Link, but remember she and impa are able to elude him for 7 years, whilst he sits on his arse playing a creepy organ, sending his minions to eff up the kingdom.

If adult Zelda returns ready to reclaim the throne before Ganondorf opens the door (which he can't without Zelda), I don't think I'd have to think hard about which individual the subjects of Hyrule would trust more.

Yes, this is what I was talking about. I replayed OOT tons back in the day. And I also felt wrong at the start, knowing I was just gathering these stones to gift Ganondorf the world.

 

[Innegativeion]

But if he were killed just before that, it would all be ok.

Well, then the government gets to use the blacklight virus however they please. That could be as bad or worse.

 

[bombadilillo]

[prototype]

That one doesn't work. Because you see...

Spoiler: Prototype Spoilers

The man Alex Mercer is already dead. He dies when he releases the plague before the game begins. The living embodiment of the infection just uses Alex's form for convenience/ as an imprint.

OT: Kratos. Seriously, kill him off anywhere in the story and the world is better. Before he kills Ares in GoW1 and you don't get dick Kratos mashing up everything in his grand Sparta campaign at the beginning of Gow2. Kill him in GoW2 before he kills anyone else and he won't screw the ENTIRE WORLD over in GoW3. Man does nothing but break the planet.

I agree.
If they had killed him in the end of the first I think it might have been an actual Greek tragedy, which would have made the game epic. I tell you, EPIC in the very Greek meaning of the word.
Then they could have made all of those prequels and kill other gods they've forgotten about.

OMG yes. In the grand tradition of the Greek tragedy and the good (2 season) amines. The protagonist died and finalized the story. There are no what ifs, or fan fiction, or spinoff, the story is told and final and complete.