Manassas City Police Trying to Sexually Abuse 17-Year-Old to Convict Him as a Sex Offender

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RA92

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In Manassas City, Virginia, a 17-year-old boy who is accused of sending a sexually explicit video to his 15-year-old girlfriend by cellphone may be forced by prosecutors to go to a hospital and get an erection injection, then allow police to photograph him with his penis in an erect state to use special software to compare it to the pictures of the penis on the video.

The case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video. The teen was served with petitions from juvenile court in early February, and not arrested, but when the case went to trial in juvenile court in June, Foster said prosecutors forgot to certify that the teen was a juvenile. The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will. The teen is facing two felony charges, for possession of child pornography and manufacturing child pornography, which could lead not only to incarceration until he's 21, but inclusion on the state sex offender data base for, possibly, the rest of his life.

The age of consent in Virginia is 15 if you are also under 18, by the way.


"The prosecutor's job is to seek justice," said the teen's defense lawyer, Jessica Harbeson Foster. "What is just about this? How does this advance the interest of the Commonwealth? This is a 17-year-old who goes to school every day, plays football, has never been in trouble with the law before. Now he's saddled with two felonies and the implication that he's a sexual predator. I don't mind trying the case. My goal is to stop the search warrant. I don't want him to go through that. Taking him down to the hospital so he can get an erection in front of all those cops, that's traumatizing."


Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/07/09/in-sexting-case-manassas-city-police-want-to-photograph-teen-in-sexually-explicit-manner-lawyers-say/

To recap, as one commenter put it, in the name of enforcing a law meant to protect a child from sexual abuse, the prosecution victimizes said child by subjecting him to sexual abuse, so that it can convict him as a sexual predator.
 

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Someone in the local police corps hates his guts, and are pulling threads. Either that, or it is a bureaucratic collapse of nightmarish proportions. But I feel there must be something that drives all this, otherwise it'd never be allowed to let such a small misunderstanding spiral out of control like this.
 

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Just read about this on Reddit.

There is an honest question about why they are pursuing this. The girlfriend sent the initiating text and he responded, so it was consensual. They're only two years apart, so their life experiences are probably pretty similar. It's pretty harmless, and they likely did have sex if they are engaging in this activity.

No matter how it's spun, I cannot understand why they want to take a photograph of his penis in the first place. I get that they want him to admit he sent the "incriminating" text, but isn't that what cell phone data is for? Does it really matter if it is his penis or not? I thought it was about the fact he had possession of his girlfriend's photos.
 

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Muspelheim said:
But I feel there must be something that drives all this, otherwise it'd never be allowed to let such a small misunderstanding spiral out of control like this.
I didn't mention this in the original post because I wasn't sure how relevant it was here, but Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert (mentioned in the article saying the allegations by the lawyers lack credibility) is a ************ of enormous proportions.

http://apublicdefender.com/2014/02/04/virginia-prosecutors-will-do-just-about-anything-to-execute-justin-wolfe/

http://www.popehat.com/2014/02/04/how-commonwealths-attorney-paul-b-ebert-touched-people/

The prosecutors are basically doing what amounts to an extortion to scare the defendant into a guilty plea because they know they don't have either the time or (most likely) the evidence to prove anything in court.
 

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So, let me get this straight.

Both individuals within legal consent age.
Girlfriend sexting her boyfriend.
Boyfriend sexts back.
Boyfriends gets arrested for child porn crimes. (why not her?)
Police intends to sexually abuse boyfriend, to incriminate him as a sexual abuser. (is that even legal?)

What??

They are legally able to consent to sex in real life but not via images/texts?.
If neither shared it on the 'net. I don't see a problem.

Absurd..
 

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Ah, I see, it's the prosecutor. At least a grudge or puritanical overreaction would feel like a reason. This just strikes me as a man who plays with lives so that he can get it up.

What worries me is that he has the influence neccessary for quite a lot of people to go along with it. There must be plenty of non-arseholes that keeps low simply because Eggbert will see them out of work if they try to stop this abomination of a court case.
 

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EDIT: Misread the beginning, my bad. Also, I need to look up age of Consent laws again, because I thought AOC in Virginia was 18. My bad.

But this is simply disgusting and an abuse of police power. I dislike the fact that cops can "Coerce" people into committing crimes and then arrest them for doing it, and this is even worse then a cop dressing as a prostitute to arrest solicitors. I hope that kid at least gets a large sum of money from the state for being sexually abused by cops.
 

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Vendor-Lazarus said:
So, let me get this straight.

Both individuals within legal consent age.
Girlfriend sexting her boyfriend.
Boyfriend sexts back.
Boyfriends gets arrested for child porn crimes. (why not her?)
Police intends to sexually abuse boyfriend, to incriminate him as a sexual abuser. (is that even legal?)

What??

They are legally able to consent to sex in real life but not via images/texts?.
If neither shared it on the 'net. I don't see a problem.

Absurd..
The age of consent in most of the US is 18, though some areas may be 16 IIRC. Though it isn't any lower anywhere. He was 17 and she was 15, so at best neither were of the age of consent, at worst he was and she wasn't. I don't know the nuances of porn laws from there, but I am sure both of them were not above the age of consent.

EDIT: Never mind, guess I don't know age of consent laws as much as I thought. Damn Virginia, get it together.

As for how I feel about it...I think it is definitely sexual abuse of a sort. If this were a story about arousing a female to examine her clitoris and compare it to a video there would be riots in the streets. Just...not okay. Not okay at all.
 

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How can you be charged as an offender when you yourself are under age?

Its a sad little secret how many prosecutor will do anything for a good Win/loss ratio it makes both ends of the legal spectrum scummy and hard to defend.
 

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im going to take a stab in the dark and say the girl's father is the police chief or somehow connected to the justice system.

oorrr the prosecutor is a dick
 

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While that is horrible and all, the question on my mind is... who developed "special software" to correctly identify an erect penis?
 

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RA92 said:
To recap, as one commenter put it, in the name of enforcing a law meant to protect a child from sexual abuse, the prosecution victimizes said child by subjecting him to sexual abuse, so that it can convict him as a sexual predator.
While the situation seems pretty bad, the spin on this is crazy... like I don't know how to put in words how crazy.

OT: I feel like this really boils down to the mother putting a complaint in to the police. Instantly puts them in a no-win situation where either they victimize the boy or ignore the pleas of help from the girls family. I could just as eaisly see this headline as "Local police refuse to arrest known owner of child porn".
 

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a similar thing popped up in local news in australia a while back so i'll sum this up:

underage and having sex with your underage partner? the law is cool with that.
underage and taking photos of your own or your partners genitals? producing child porn.
sending said photos to your partner? distributing child porn.
receiving photos from your partner? possession of child porn.

not sure how i feel on the matter on this except for the fact the cops are kinda being dicks and i'm wondering where the fuck they got the supply of erection enhancing drugs for "testing purposes" but i know now if i ever send a picture of my genitals i'm gonna make sure i'm only at half mast so i can't get prosecuted.
 

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Age of consent doesn't matter because they didn't have sex. They both created and distributed child pornography, which is what he is being charged with.
 

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Majinash said:
RA92 said:
To recap, as one commenter put it, in the name of enforcing a law meant to protect a child from sexual abuse, the prosecution victimizes said child by subjecting him to sexual abuse, so that it can convict him as a sexual predator.
While the situation seems pretty bad, the spin on this is crazy... like I don't know how to put in words how crazy.
What bit of it is a crazy spin? The perpetrator is still a child, and taking photos of his genitals without his consent is certainly traumatizing and counts as abuse anywhere else. And his name is forever going to be on the sex offenders' list.

spoonybard.hahs said:
Age of consent doesn't matter because they didn't have sex. They both created and distributed child pornography, which is what he is being charged with.
No, he is being charged because blood-thirsty attorneys know they are immune and want prosecution numbers.
 

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spoonybard.hahs said:
Age of consent doesn't matter because they didn't have sex. They both created and distributed child pornography, which is what he is being charged with.
And you agree that is a proper assessment of the situation? You sound like you agree. There's a big difference between nudes and porn, just as there is a big different between child porn and sexting.
 

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Well, that's beyond fucked up.

Although I have to ask. Why isn't the girl also being charged? The article suggests that she did essentially the same thing as the boy, and yet doesn't have a prosecutor out for her blood.

I wonder why? /sarcasm
 

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Happiness Assassin said:
While that is horrible and all, the question on my mind is... who developed "special software" to correctly identify an erect penis?
It was likely a Tool developed for investigations/prosecutions in Rape cases where the victim only saw the assailant's genitals and can reliably identify them. I have heard of genitals being identified for successful productions so its not that strange to have made tech that specializes in it realy.