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I like the more no nosense fight styles, where the idea is to hit your oponent really hard.
Kick Boxing or something.
Kick Boxing or something.
If you want to learn it purely for self denfense then go with 'Krav-Maga'. It doesn't look amazing but it is brutally fast and efficient. Jason Bourne and Sam Fisher (splinter cell) use this style.
If you want to look cool and athletic go for 'tae-kwon-do', it involves loads of spins and flips and makes you look like a ninja
If you want to look cool and athletic go for 'tae-kwon-do', it involves loads of spins and flips and makes you look like a ninja
I have practiced Shotokan Karate for 3 years and I liked it. It has aggression, but also some elegance to it in the form of Kata.
After 3 years I quit, because the teacher was a greedy asshole, who cared more for his bankaccount than his students. The whole class quit and put him out of business>
He totally deserved it when he promoted everyone without taking exams, as long as you paid your lessons in advance...
After 3 years I quit, because the teacher was a greedy asshole, who cared more for his bankaccount than his students. The whole class quit and put him out of business>
He totally deserved it when he promoted everyone without taking exams, as long as you paid your lessons in advance...
I began with Tae Kwon Do when I was 8 and moved on to Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu at the beginning of the previous summer.
If you're interested in looking all flashy like the guys in the movies or if you're just interested in learning in a relaxed kind of environment, I'd recommend TKD. If you're serious about hardcore fighting, Muay Thai and BJJ are definitely a better fit.
Ultimately it all depends on what you do. Remember to never make the mistake of thinking one style is superior to another. Ultimately, it is the martial artists who are superior and inferior. The arts are merely the tools you use.
If you're interested in looking all flashy like the guys in the movies or if you're just interested in learning in a relaxed kind of environment, I'd recommend TKD. If you're serious about hardcore fighting, Muay Thai and BJJ are definitely a better fit.
Ultimately it all depends on what you do. Remember to never make the mistake of thinking one style is superior to another. Ultimately, it is the martial artists who are superior and inferior. The arts are merely the tools you use.
Karate, I do freestyle which is loosly based on the Waderoo style. Shotokan karate is awesome though, I choose my style because of the strength compared with things like Taekwon do and I found it more practical than Judo. I have also experienced some Krav magrah(spelling?) which is an Israeli martial art, that was crazy shit; really intense.
I know Judo and Kung Fu.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend either if you're interested in the actual 'fighting stuff' as they're not meant to be used in real-world situations (and don't let any idiot tell you otherwise), but they're both cool sports nonetheless. If you're looking for self-defense techniques I wouldn't look at the 'traditional' martial arts, but if you're just looking for a cool sport you can't go wrong with them.
Kung Fu is very cool to do. The fun thing about Kung Fu is that it isn't just cool to do, it also looks cool. If you've ever seen a demonstration by someone who's really good, you'll know what I'm talking about. At the most basic level it's just punches and kicks and ways to defend yourself against those, but it has this very... I dunno, fast and liquid feel to it. It's hard to describe.
Judo is less 'flashy', simply because it's mostly holds and throws in stead of punches and kicks. It's a very different kind of fighting requiring a very different approach, but I find it more rewarding somehow. It feels more 'real'. If you've got your opponent in a good hold, he's not going anywhere no matter what. Throwing your opponent is always fun as well, more fun than punching him if you ask me. I'm significantly better at Judo than I am at Kung Fu, and what I like most about Judo is that it combines so many different skills. There's strength, but there's also speed, balance, agility, and even mindgames to consider (I realise that's also true in other martial arts, but it just feels that much more obvious in Judo, to me).
In both cases though, and I guess this goes for any martial art, there are two things that are very important and that noone can help you with. The first is that you simply have to try it and see if you like it. I never would've expected I'd like Judo more than Kung Fu when I started it, but I do. You simply have to get a feel for it yourself and then decide if you want to go on with it. The second is that you need to find a teacher you like. Nothing ruins the experience like a shitty teacher, and a good teacher can make it fun even if you're not all that good. My Kung Fu teacher for example has a great sense of humor and knows how to make fun of people that's funny even to the one being made fun of, and that really improves the atmosphere during training.
Part of me has always wanted to try Karate, not because the sport itself attracts me that much but because my Kung Fu teacher seems to have nothing but disdain for it. For example, one of her favorite things to say when demonstrating defensive techniques to new people is "If I were to punch you like this, and you were using Karate to defend yourself, you'd just break your own wrist." I just want to see if there's any truth to that.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend either if you're interested in the actual 'fighting stuff' as they're not meant to be used in real-world situations (and don't let any idiot tell you otherwise), but they're both cool sports nonetheless. If you're looking for self-defense techniques I wouldn't look at the 'traditional' martial arts, but if you're just looking for a cool sport you can't go wrong with them.
Kung Fu is very cool to do. The fun thing about Kung Fu is that it isn't just cool to do, it also looks cool. If you've ever seen a demonstration by someone who's really good, you'll know what I'm talking about. At the most basic level it's just punches and kicks and ways to defend yourself against those, but it has this very... I dunno, fast and liquid feel to it. It's hard to describe.
Judo is less 'flashy', simply because it's mostly holds and throws in stead of punches and kicks. It's a very different kind of fighting requiring a very different approach, but I find it more rewarding somehow. It feels more 'real'. If you've got your opponent in a good hold, he's not going anywhere no matter what. Throwing your opponent is always fun as well, more fun than punching him if you ask me. I'm significantly better at Judo than I am at Kung Fu, and what I like most about Judo is that it combines so many different skills. There's strength, but there's also speed, balance, agility, and even mindgames to consider (I realise that's also true in other martial arts, but it just feels that much more obvious in Judo, to me).
In both cases though, and I guess this goes for any martial art, there are two things that are very important and that noone can help you with. The first is that you simply have to try it and see if you like it. I never would've expected I'd like Judo more than Kung Fu when I started it, but I do. You simply have to get a feel for it yourself and then decide if you want to go on with it. The second is that you need to find a teacher you like. Nothing ruins the experience like a shitty teacher, and a good teacher can make it fun even if you're not all that good. My Kung Fu teacher for example has a great sense of humor and knows how to make fun of people that's funny even to the one being made fun of, and that really improves the atmosphere during training.
Part of me has always wanted to try Karate, not because the sport itself attracts me that much but because my Kung Fu teacher seems to have nothing but disdain for it. For example, one of her favorite things to say when demonstrating defensive techniques to new people is "If I were to punch you like this, and you were using Karate to defend yourself, you'd just break your own wrist." I just want to see if there's any truth to that.
There's no such thing as one style being "better" than another - it's the teacher who makes the difference. However, if you're aiming for effectiveness, some styles are definitely safer than others.
As far as striking goes I would recommend boxing, Muay Thai or full-contact karate. Any place that does full-contact is great.
As far as grappling goes, Brazilian Jujitsu tends to rank pretty highly, and also Judo (Judo being the more cost-effective of the two).
Avoid "flashy" martial arts like the plague (unless they're your cup of tea, but remember that shit isn't going to help in a fight). Examples of this would be most CMAs (Chinese Martial Arts, "Kung Fu"), Tae Kwon Do and the like.
As far as striking goes I would recommend boxing, Muay Thai or full-contact karate. Any place that does full-contact is great.
As far as grappling goes, Brazilian Jujitsu tends to rank pretty highly, and also Judo (Judo being the more cost-effective of the two).
Avoid "flashy" martial arts like the plague (unless they're your cup of tea, but remember that shit isn't going to help in a fight). Examples of this would be most CMAs (Chinese Martial Arts, "Kung Fu"), Tae Kwon Do and the like.
I have a black belt in Hapkido and I want to take up MMA eventually. There is no such thing as a perfect style. Just find what is right for you. Shorter, stronger people might be better at judo, while a taller person might be better at Muy Thai. Look around and see what works for you.
Well you'd be btter off telling us how you'd like to fight then we would be able to suggest better.keillord said:
I do karate in Wado Ryu style. I chose it because it is simple and works. Besides the moves you learn in syllabus are just templates for fighting you have to know how to change them to put them to use.
I guess i'll just quote this and spare myself of beeing ninja'd.Flames66 said:
I started on ninjutsu (Bujinkan budo taijutsu) about half a year ago, and i find it really interreating.
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what i wanted to do, and i what made ninjutsu appeal to me was this:
It's a non-sportified martial art, you're training for real combat situations where the well-beeing of your opponent isn't as important as it is in sports tournaments, so you'll learn a lot of stuff which you'd never see in a martial arts tournament, cause breaking your opponents bones isn't really allowed.
So i thought, if i get assaulted, i wanna be able to neutralize the assailant in the most efficient way, even if it's not "fair play" in competitite combat sport (like breaking their limbs)
I looked at krav maga as well (but didn't try it) cause of this reason as well.
It includes weapons, so you'll learn to fight with, and against weapons. Whiel some of it may be more of tradition and interrest, cause honestly, how often ar eyou assaultede by a dude with a sword? But you also learn defence against knifes and sticks (like a baseball bat or iron pipe)
While the sword fighting (and otehr weapons thata re not really seen "on the streets" nowdays)may not have a lot of practical applications, it's just interresting (and keeping the general level of geekyness of this site in mind, i would guess thats interresting to otehrs as well)
And lastly, at some point, i'll be able to say witha straight face, that i in fact am a real ninja.
While the sword fighting have been sparse so far, i guess it's mroe advanced and will come when i get better, i haven't been dissapointed so far. When the senseis show how to do things the right way, it's brutally effective, it's really interresting as well.
I was kinda chocked when they showed us (without a fully applied demonstration) how to effectively break peoples necks, the second time i was at the dojo.
Whatever style of martial arts you do decide to look into a good piece of advice is to research the place you are going to. You're not really likely to find a lot of the really exotic martial arts in most places and even then some of them won't stay in business really long unless they cater to small kids. (Seriously I helped run a Karate place for a while as an instructor and we didn't really establish anything serious for adults until several years of having kid classes to pad out the initial investment put into the place.) There is a huge difference between places that are really just for your average person's self defense and places where people are really intent on learning the art.
Also a lot of places are really just flashy and will teach you really basic stuff and tell you about how to build a better/ more fit body. Worse yet some places will teach you things ( I forget the actual term) but its more of a series of movements of competitions than actual practical uses. One karate place I went to spent 80% of the time making us run laps around a gym and lifting weights.
Also research what the style involves, say it involves a lot of jumping and aerial finesse but you know you're going not that great at flying or landing, either be prepared to fight through injuries or look towards something more ground based.
Also a lot of places are really just flashy and will teach you really basic stuff and tell you about how to build a better/ more fit body. Worse yet some places will teach you things ( I forget the actual term) but its more of a series of movements of competitions than actual practical uses. One karate place I went to spent 80% of the time making us run laps around a gym and lifting weights.
Also research what the style involves, say it involves a lot of jumping and aerial finesse but you know you're going not that great at flying or landing, either be prepared to fight through injuries or look towards something more ground based.
1) If you break a bone blocking a blow with Karate you're doing it wrong, if you break their wrist then you're getting closer.hURR dURR dERP said:Part of me has always wanted to try Karate, not because the sport itself attracts me that much but because my Kung Fu teacher seems to have nothing but disdain for it. For example, one of her favorite things to say when demonstrating defensive techniques to new people is "If I were to punch you like this, and you were using Karate to defend yourself, you'd just break your own wrist." I just want to see if there's any truth to that.
2) If you are blocking a blow with Karate then you weren't punching hard and fast enough
It's fun, I wish I could have stuck at it for longer. Luckily, there's a Judo club within walking distance that I am itching to join (once I work out my budget)
Phew, I'm all over the place on this one.
I've experienced shotokan karate and enjoyed that thoroughly. It's straight to the point and doesn't waste time being flashy.
I've also dabbled in the tai chi jang. For those of you who think tai chi is something for old men to do in the park, you are sorely mistaken. Adapting the simple, fluid movements of these katas can and will devastate your opponent.
Being in the Army, we're trained in Army combatives which is based strongly on Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Only useful if you end up in a grapple.
Then there's always kendo, kenjitsu, iaitsu and plain ol' European broadsword fighting.
I...get around.
I've experienced shotokan karate and enjoyed that thoroughly. It's straight to the point and doesn't waste time being flashy.
I've also dabbled in the tai chi jang. For those of you who think tai chi is something for old men to do in the park, you are sorely mistaken. Adapting the simple, fluid movements of these katas can and will devastate your opponent.
Being in the Army, we're trained in Army combatives which is based strongly on Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Only useful if you end up in a grapple.
Then there's always kendo, kenjitsu, iaitsu and plain ol' European broadsword fighting.
I...get around.