Marvel's odd romances

[Harrycanyon1982]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ynpTl6zFEM&t=86s

Ah yes, love can be strange in Marvel! Tigra and Hank (A humanoid furred tiger literal cat-woman complete with tail and a human man), Howard the Duck and Beverly Switzler (human woman and interdimensional duck being), Lilandra and Xavier (mutant and alien woman who's race evolved from birds and even born from an egg), Hezibah and Corsair (Cyclop's human space pirate father and humanoid alien skunk-cat furry female being), Carly and Beast on X-Men TAS (blue furry mutant man who is like a cat-ape hybrid look and a human woman)and Starlord and Gamora (human and alien) the first cross-species of Being or rather inter-being loves as they are proof in Marvel you don't have to be the same species of Being to fall in love and show love is love. I made tribute to those couples with music from Wicked City (1987 cult anime classic)'s beautiful end credits song "Hold me in the Shadow".

Remember the episode of X-Men called "Beauty and The Beast" (one of my favorite episodes)? Beast fell in love with a human woman who was blind then used a treatment to cure her of blindness as she wanted to see what her lover looked like, she was not startled by his cat-ape like beastly appearance and said "Your beautiful!" to him then he replied "So are you". The father was repulsed by the idea of a mutant who resembles a blue feline-ape and wanted to break their relationship as Beast felt heartbroken by an ignorant mutant hating father yet when Carly got kidnapped by the anti-mutant bigot group "Friends of Humanity" the father agreed with Beast to find his daughter and Beast's true love then at the end the father accepted their relationship and showed not all mutants even those who resemble animal-like beings aren't all bad and love isn't by appearances.

I am very supportive of interspecies or rather inter-being couples/romance in stories even comics/games/animation/sci-fi fantasy etc. but only if it involves a humanoid being, a sapient or sentient being, magical creature being (ala mermaid or gargoyle or vampire or elf etc.), alien being or mutant being which is ok because they can consent but NEVER to a 4 legged regular feral non-evolved non-humanoid non-sapient creature animal like an ordinary feral Labordour retreiver and a human for example as that would be beastality since it's a thing that cannot think or consent or have feelings like a Being in general would and it isn't a Being who has same structures/body build/nor humanoid looking like any Being is along with intelligence.

Nothing wrong with interspecies or rather inter-being romance as it worked for Eliza and Goliath on Gargoyles, Arwen and Aragon (human and elf), Nick and Judy (Zootopia and both are mammals), Sally and Sonic (Squirrel and Hedgehog mammal beings), Star Wars humans and aliens, Star Trek humans and aliens, Tankgirl and Booga in Tankgirl comics, Hellboy and Liz in the movies/comics (monster man and female sorceress), Eric and Ariel in Little Mermaid, Madison and Tom Hanks in Splash (mermaid and human), Charlene and Vinnie on Biker Mice from Mars (human and alien sapient mouse humanoid being and both are sapient mammal beings who are consenting adults and can make their own decisions since there is peace between humans and Martian mice folks on Earth and in Mars as it's Charlene's human right to love who she wants to love), Regular Show's Frank and Denise (Margaret's parents), Minerva Mink and a human lover in a story series, InuYasha and Kagome, Vastra and Jenny on Doctor Who (earth alien lizard woman and a earth human woman), Duckman who romanced with different mammal anthro beings/different bird people/even human ladies on the show (remember that classic 90's adult animated comedy show which pre-dated South Park and Family Guy? great writing and great humor too with satire with Jason Alexander), Batman and Cheetah on Justice League, Beauty and The Beast 80's show with Vincent and Catherine, Polly Pineblossom and that rich guy who was once a jerk on New Adventures of Mighty Mouse etc.

I believe in comics/art/fanfiction/sci-fi fantasy stories and books even Star Wars/animation/games/Sci-fi fantasy films etc. that a person should have that right to love whoever they want to love as the artist or writer thinks so for consenting adults and i am a long time open minded person.

As Prince Lir in Peter S Beagle's The Last Unicorn (Book and movie, anyone read or seen this movie or remember both?) once said when he found out the loveliest girl he ever laid eyes on and romanced known as Lady Amalthea is a humanized unicorn "Unicorn, mermaid, sorceress, vampire, elf, werewolf, gargoyle..no name you'd give her would surprise or frighten me, i love whom i love" which is one of my all time favorite quotes.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Eh, ok, what are we supposed to take away from that? Interspecies relationships are a-ok so long as both parties are sufficiently humanoid?

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Correct but Beings in general as i was saying how much these Marvel characters are so inspiring in their universe on showing love isn't always with the same person or the same race of Being as i see it as a metaphor for interracial or same sex romance in a way. Plus a little education on what is beastality and what isn't like for beastality a true example would be Kinky Kelly on Clerks 2 (remember the scene of the S&M gay fellow who brought a donkey to do for a show plus was hurting that thing since it's a thing that cannot consent and is a four legged ordinary regular animal creature that isn't a Being and cannot consent to beings in general?), that is what true beastality is but in Sci-fi/fantasy stories like Biker Mice from Mars with a couple like Vinnie and Charlene it isn't cause both are sapient mammal Beings mind you (almost like Sonic and Sally whom are both different species of mammals as she is a squirrel and one is a hedgehog plus Charlene who is Vinnie's human sweetheart is a mammal Being just like Vinnie and both are soulmates from two different worlds who are consenting adults) and it also applies to Hezpibah and Corsair and Beast/Carly for example, there was also Alicia Masters and The Thing (a rock man with a normal human woman and he was once human but mutated into a Being of rocks). Alan who fell in love with Madison the mermaid in Splash at the end magically could breath underwater as both are soulmates who are different and he lived with her at the end in her underwater Kingdom for example, even Star Wars alien races consent to other races even to humans.

The episode of Beauty and the Beast on X-Men really opened my mind when i was 11 when i saw that episode as did some Sci-fi/fantasy stories/movies/comics when i was a kid. And now with Frank and Denise on Regular Show which has a human man married to a humanoid Bird person who both are Margaret's parents and Vastra and Jenny on Doctor Who, it's just so inspirational to see couples who aren't of the same Being but who are different.

The word "people" means humans to some but it really isn't, it applies to all Beings in general whether they are mutant Beings, alien beings, magical creature beings, sapient/sentient beings and humanoid beings as it's a staple of love in Sci-fi/fantasy stories and all that.

And do you know what Prince Lir meant by his quote i mentioned from The Last Unicorn when Schmendrick the Magician told him about Lady Amalthea's secret of who she really is when they are trying to find the Red Bull to turn her back to her old unicorn self once the Red Bull appears again to defeat it yet Lir protested to Schmendrick not to change her back?

 

[JoJo]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Well there could be other races who last longer like to 300 years which isn't too bad.

What Lir said in his brilliant quote iin the movie/book of The Last Unicorn is it's meaning is because of the utter devotion that it implies, he love Amalthea, the essence of her, and no.matter what she is or was it wouldn't or couldn't sway him from that affection. And it's also 100 percent true, if you love that person you love them despite their appearance.

 

[votemarvel]

Beast in the comics is currently dating Abigail Brand, former Head of SWORD and current co-leader if Alpha Flight, who is a human/alien hybrid.

 

[Blitsie]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

....I feel in reality the required rules for these situations are only going to solidify after penises have been stuck into what(who)ever comes our way.

Heck I can't blame 'em, Liara T'Soni had quite the mass effect on teenage me's boner.

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Oh indeed and Peter S Beagle is quite a writer you know.

 

[Lieju]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

And don't forget that the act of sex itself can be totally different.

"Ah yes in our species the female eats the male and absorbs his genetic information that way."

or

"Hm? We already had sex? I fertilized your eggs when you were in the bathroom? On our planet we don't keep them in the fridge lol humans."

 

[Saltyk]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

And don't forget that the act of sex itself can be totally different.

"Ah yes in our species the female eats the male and absorbs his genetic information that way."

or

"Hm? We already had sex? I fertilized your eggs when you were in the bathroom? On our planet we don't keep them in the fridge lol humans."

 

[Lieju]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

And don't forget that the act of sex itself can be totally different.

"Ah yes in our species the female eats the male and absorbs his genetic information that way."

or

"Hm? We already had sex? I fertilized your eggs when you were in the bathroom? On our planet we don't keep them in the fridge lol humans."

hah I was actually thinking about that but didn't feel like trying to find the clip.

 

[Saltyk]

It's all fun and games when it's blue alien space babes, but I imagine real interspecies romance would throw up some interesting issues. We can't even agree on an age of consent when it comes to our own species (ranges between 12 and 21 in various countries), imagine trying to deal with a sapient species with a radically different life cycle to our own? Or one where they naturally engage in sex at every point of their lives? Alternatively, a species where sex is an expected part of socialising such as bonobos might consider humans frigid and weird for not engaging with them. A species that dies after mating once on the other hand might require a level of consent beyond which we would expect.

And don't forget that the act of sex itself can be totally different.

"Ah yes in our species the female eats the male and absorbs his genetic information that way."

or

"Hm? We already had sex? I fertilized your eggs when you were in the bathroom? On our planet we don't keep them in the fridge lol humans."

hah I was actually thinking about that but didn't feel like trying to find the clip.

Happy to help!

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Oh yes that was a great episode of Futurama

 

[Worgen]

Eh, ok, what are we supposed to take away from that? Interspecies relationships are a-ok so long as both parties are sufficiently humanoid?

That's kinda been the thought of tv for awhile, keep in mind how often Captain Kirk committed bestiality. If you have sex with something that isn't your species its bestiality, green alien women are technically a different species.

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Beastality only refers to someone doing an ordinary regular 4 legged feral animal creature that isn't a Being like say if someone does a beagle if someone does a beagle that is regular/ordinary then it's beastality is as it's a thing that cannot consent, nor has a humanoid body structure like any Being in general does, nor does have intelligence like us or any Being and all that.

The couples i show isn't because they are all Beings in general and they love each other for who they are and not what they are especially Frank and Denise on Regular Show, Vastra and Jenny on Doctor Who etc.