Mary Sues! *Shakes fist*

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Froggy Slayer

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So, tell me fellow escapists; what characters in popular fiction do you find to be Mary Sues. Search the definition if you don't know what it is.
 

Wintermoot

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Takumi Fujiwara from Initial D and the Doctor.
doesn't take away that it's not fun to watch.
 

ToastiestZombie

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Jesus. He's probably the most famous Mary Sue. Sure he died, but he died because he was too good for mere mortals.

(Jesus is both a non-fictional and fictional character. Depends on what you believe)
 

FalloutJack

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*Does not agree with Doctor assessment*

Characters with longtime build-up are exempt from that status. Longest sci-fi show ever? Doctor Who. In terms of an RPG where characters level up, take in new feats, and get better equipment, the Doctor has been steadily leveling for a VERY long time. This assessment of Sue-ness is therefore DENIED.
 

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The Matthew Ward afflicted Ultramarines and Grey Knights. Before him, they were either respectable everyman marines or just the elite chaos hunters, but now each one is pretty much jesus.
 

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The main character from The Fades. I love that show but I hate the protagonist. Hate. I don't even remember his name. I just despise him so much. Everything about him just reeks of Sue-ism.
 

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You guys ever read the Eragon series?

If not, don't. if you have... you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, who else...

Oh yeah; the spacecats from Avatar. I hate those things.


Speaking of which, it's apparantly pretty popular with some hack directors to portray any people who have an historical grievance with white people this way as well.
 

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Saladfork said:
You guys ever read the Eragon series?

If not, don't. if you have... you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, who else...

Oh yeah; the spacecats from Avatar. I hate those things.


Speaking of which, it's apparantly pretty popular with some hack directors to portray any people who have an historical grievance with white people this way as well.
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They were MADE to be adorable, fluffy and easy to sympethize with. How I know that? Because I rooted for the humans. I also have no soul.
 

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It infects fan fiction more than anything else, especially in this Mass Effect one.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/ParallelRealities
 

RedBerserkerD

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Batman

No superpowers but can go toe to toe with any superpowered person.
crazy prepared or not batman cant fight everybody.
 

FalloutJack

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RedBerserkerD said:
Batman

No superpowers but can go toe to toe with any superpowered person.
crazy prepared or not batman cant fight everybody.
If he was THAT prepared, nothing bad would ever happen to him. Since stuff DOES, and he is flimsy mortal that has to rely on brains or resources, that just means that he does alot of research to find ways to handle other beings. It is for this kind of reasoning that he is the #1 superhero and not Superman.

Superman can do anything, period. He's the damn sue.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
The Matthew Ward afflicted Ultramarines and Grey Knights. Before him, they were either respectable everyman marines or just the elite chaos hunters, but now each one is pretty much jesus.
There's a lot of Mary Sue-ing in 40k I reckon. Ciaphas Cain also springs to mind, for some reason him being within reaching distance of two World Eaters and not getting his puny human face smooshed to a pulp strikes me as ridiculous.

Also no badmouthing the Grey Knights, the Ordo Malleus is really fucking twitchy. Sneeze in the vague direction of Titan and you're declared Extremis Diabolus by teatime.
 

Froggy Slayer

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Zantos said:
Soviet Heavy said:
The Matthew Ward afflicted Ultramarines and Grey Knights. Before him, they were either respectable everyman marines or just the elite chaos hunters, but now each one is pretty much jesus.
There's a lot of Mary Sue-ing in 40k I reckon. Ciaphas Cain also springs to mind, for some reason him being within reaching distance of two World Eaters and not getting his puny human face smooshed to a pulp strikes me as ridiculous.

Also no badmouthing the Grey Knights, the Ordo Malleus is really fucking twitchy. Sneeze in the vague direction of Titan and you're declared Extremis Diabolus by teatime.
Ciaphas doesn't count as his exploits are both humourours and meant to represent Imperial Propoganda.

CIAPHAS CAIN: HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
 

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has anyone read Earths Children series? starting with "Clan of the Cavebear"?

the charachter starts out find but god...by that second last book (far as Ive read) she's a fucking Mary sue on cocain

game charachters I think get some leeway for the fact its a game and what happnes in game doesnt always have to translte directly to the story
 

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FalloutJack said:
RedBerserkerD said:
Batman

No superpowers but can go toe to toe with any superpowered person.
crazy prepared or not batman cant fight everybody.
If he was THAT prepared, nothing bad would ever happen to him. Since stuff DOES, and he is flimsy mortal that has to rely on brains or resources, that just means that he does alot of research to find ways to handle other beings. It is for this kind of reasoning that he is the #1 superhero and not Superman.

Superman can do anything, period. He's the damn sue.
I'd say both are Mary Sues at times, though in both Marvel and DC pretty much every character has ended up as a Mary Sue under certain writers.
 

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My prime choices for "Mary-Sue" are Mikael Blomqvist from the Millenium series, Drizzt Do'Urden of Forgotten Realms fame, and Robert Langdon from the Davinci Code. All of these characters display inpenetrable plot armour, and saved at the last moment syndrome. Classic author wish fulfillment on all fronts.
 

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Batman is an... odd case.

When he's on his own, or involved with the "Bat-Family", he's reasonably powered. But when someone with super-human powers gets involved (like him being in the Justice League), he becomes the single biggest Mary Sue in fiction. And there is a massive difference between Street-Level-Detective Batman and God-Among-Men Batman. The man who defeated Darksied should not be having a problem with a man whose entire villain gimmick is using a flamethrower.

Batman's like a were-Sue or something like that.