Mass Effect 2 question about races

[Josh123914]

Ok, so I have 4 major questions about Mass Effect 2 that alot of others probably want answered aswell, so without further ado:
1. How old do certain species live?
They say that for humans their live expectancy skyrocketed to 160 when they joined the Citadel, the Asari live for 1000 years but that's common knowledge and I read somewhere that Salarian live expectacy is around 40 and I call bullshit on that, if the Asari can live for a thousand years and the salarians are supposedly the most technologically advanced, why haven't they inventeed some sort of medicine to extend your life?
2. The Raloi.
If you kept up with the Cerberus news you would know that there is a new species around called the Raloi, they are Avian and when they made 1st contact they only just launched their version of Sputnik, so are we going to actually SEE these aliens or is Bioware gonna pull the old bullshit of putting them in pressure suits?
3. How come we didn't see quarians out of their suits on the flotilla?
pretty self explanitory, I mean the Flotilla was designed to be one of the most sterile environments suitable for quarians, and if you talk to an Asari Patriarch one of them says ' I remember when Quarians took off their suits regualrly' so why can't we ask her to describe them?
4. Will we get to see female versions of other species?
the only I can currently think of that we've seen different genders of are humans(obviously) and Quarians(check, the females have slimmer waists), the Asari don't count as they(and from what I've heard, Hanar)are mono-gendered.

 

[redeclipse]

1.The Asari are a Naturally long lived race.
2.that would depend on said species biology.
3.this i'm not sure. I think it's because the flotilla is a collection of salvaged and cheeply bought ships, also it could have some thing to do with sheperd being there.
4. this is also some thing i would like to see.

 

[DVS Storm]

1. Well Krogan can live over thousand years too, I think that Drell can live 60 years(not sure) and well Salarians have hyperactive metabolism. Even if they are really advanced, it's really hard to try to slow your body down. They basically wouldn't be Salarians anymore if they did that.
2. I think that we will either see them in ME3 or they don't even mention them.
3. I think that Bioware still wants to keep a web of shadow over the Quarians. It's their own little secret and I can't blame them. It is really interesting to try and imagine what they would look like.
4. Well we are not going to see female Krogans I think. Krogan females are always treating kids and sealed away in camps(either because Krogans don't want to roam free since the genophage or because Krogan are tribal species). I think it's wierd that we haven't seen Turian females.

This is why I love Mass Effect. Bioware has created a really intriquing universe and they have explained many things through science(not all of course).

 

[Mechsoap]

1. The Asari naturally live that long, and the Salarians properly have extended their life to the max.

3. you can never have a 100% all the time sterile environment, also Shepard boarded the ship and think off how much they would be at risk of 1 person with millions of germs on them.

4. there is concept art (its rather disturbing) but its said that you cant see difference between male and female, and they also act similar, if you dont understand think of a dog, can you just by looking at a dog tell if its female or male? (i mean without looking under them).

 

[zfactor]

Ok, so I have 4 major questions about Mass Effect 2 that alot of others probably want answered aswell, so without further ado:
1. How old do certain species live?
They say that for humans their live expectancy skyrocketed to 160 when they joined the Citadel, the Asari live for 1000 years but that's common knowledge and I read somewhere that Salarian live expectacy is around 40 and I call bullshit on that, if the Asari can live for a thousand years and the salarians are supposedly the most technologically advanced, why haven't they inventeed some sort of medicine to extend your life?
2. The Raloi. If you kept up with the Cerberus news you would know that there is a new species around called the Raloi, they are Avian and when they made 1st contact they only just launched their version of Sputnik, so are we going to actually SEE these aliens or is Bioware gonna pull the old bullshit of putting them in pressure suits?
3. How come we didn't see quarians out of their suits on the flotilla? pretty self explanitory, I mean the Flotilla was designed to be one of the most sterile environments suitable for quarians, and if you talk to an Asari Patriarch one of them says ' I remember when Quarians took off their suits regualrly' so why can't we ask her to describe them?
4. Will we get to see female versions of other species? the only I can currently think of that we've seen different genders of are humans(obviously) and Quarians(check, the females have slimmer waists), the Asari don't count as they(and from what I've heard, Hanar)are mono-gendered.

1. Humans are actually 150 life expectancy, probably because it keeps rising and its the year 2183. So it's probably part natural and part new advanced tech. Asari have a "robust cellular structure" (according to the codex). This means their bodies decay (grow old) at a much slower rate than everybody else, causing their organs and whatnot to last longer. Most "old age" deaths are a result of organ failure (usually the heart because it is always going). The salarians have a super accelerated metabolism (according to the codex), causing their organs to decay faster resulting in a short lifespan. The only thing that can stop this would be constant drugs or constant organ replacement. Both of which would be expensive.

2. Missed that Cerberus Network update... We probably will see them, they only put 2 species in suits (quarian and volus). Plus that is probably the only new species for ME3, otehrwise the story get bumfucked (like the whole "the batarians, drell, and vorcha only ever are in the Terminus systems." Right ok...).).

3. Because you are not sterile? And they rarely take off the suits because of the infection risk, even with family members. Tali explains that. If they all took off their suits in the floatilla and one microbe got in, they would all be screwed. Well, mostly screwed. It's just too big of a risk, even in a mostly sterile enviroment. That Asari Matriarch (not Patriarch) is just showing her age and experience. And Bioware didn't think about that when they made the game. Plus you get to see Tali if you choose that romance option...

4. Maybe. You actually might have already seen females of various species and not known it. Human genders look very different because that's what you are. To an alien, we all look the same and their species looks different. This is the exact same thing that happens with different cultures. I have a teacher from China who says we all look the same to her, so it will take some time for her to learn names. So maybe? But you might not know even if you did...

 

[War Pony]

4. Well we are not going to see female Krogans I think. Krogan females are always treating kids and sealed away in camps(either because Krogans don't want to roam free since the genophage or because Krogan are tribal species). I think it's wierd that we haven't seen Turian females.

This is why I love Mass Effect. Bioware has created a really intriquing universe and they have explained many things through science(not all of course).

There's an envoy from the female camp near the shaman on Tuchanka. She pretty much looks the same, but tells you in a wheezy voice that, yunno, she's the envoy from the female camp and won't take your crap.

To the OP, I don't know if the pressure suit thing would be bullshit, I mean the species that wear environmental suits have pretty good reasons to. Rather, the reasons seem solid to me.

As for number four, don't quote me on this, but I think the Salarian council member is female. I think. I don't remember where I read this, so don't quote me on that. Then again, there're some Salarians I've shot at that sound remarkably...girly. Particularly ones in Eclipse. Are they found anyplace else, for that matter?

I just really need to go through the codex some time, but I can't stand being read to.

 

[Zenacra]

i'm also curious as to those things, now that i think about it. (wasn't aware of the new avians, but hopefully they'll be more obviously avian than the other avian ME race, the Turians.)

though in regards to number three, as stated by redeclipse, there's the possibility they were told Shepard and other non-Quarian individuals were coming and decided "well, there's no way we can sterilize them to an acceptable degree to interact with us out of our suits, so let's take the easy road and keep our suits on for the duration of the visit and the time it takes to re-sterilize the ship." also, Bioware's a bit on the lazy side with certain things, and deciding what the hell Quarians actually look like is one such thing.

 

[Shining_Pyrelight]

4. I thought there was a female Krogan in Mass Effect 2? Sure it was under a blanket dead, but you could see it was alot smaller than the males.
As all ready stated though, I doubt (unless they were humanoid) you would (easily) be able to tell the difference.

 

[CapnRaccoon]

There are female Krogans in ME2; They look just like the men and sound like them.
You can talk to them and they say something along the lines of "Our clan ---- is female and doesn't accept humans"
Or something like that, but yea.

I don't think we'll ever see a Quarian, and this new Avian race interests me, I'd also quite strangely like the opportunity to romance a female Turian in ME3; I mean, we know they exist and presumably they're feminine as Garrus describes one and how he ends up doing calibrations with one.

 

[kuyo]

Tali said in the first game that Quarians tend to stay in their suits even in the flotilla. It might also have something to do with Miranda being a total ***** by not putting on a helmet and contaminating the atrium.

 

[Deviltongue]

Average Human life expectancy is 150 years

Average Asari life expectancy is over 1000 years

Average Krogan life expectancy is over 1000 years

Average Salarian life expectancy is 40 years

Average Drell Life expectancy is 85 years

Average Turian Life expectancy is 150 years

Those are all of the life expectancies I remember.

 

[Ralen-Sharr]

I am pretty sure I remember reading something saying that most Krogans can live past 2000 years, but don't because of their own violent nature.

I don't think Solarians sleep.(could be wrong on that) They also finish what we call college at age 12.

Quarians are rightfully the biggest germaphobes in the universe. Even if you were in a suit, and they weren't, a simple crack in yours could turn into an epidemic on any ship.

 

[Psymon138]

If I recall, it's mentioned in one of the novels that Quarians very rarely take their suits off even when on the Fleet with only other Quarians around. If even a relatively minor infection got past quarantine it could rip through a ship like wildfire. And the rag tag nature of the fleet means that having a self contained life support unit is very helpful if the front of the ship falls off or something. Pretty much the only place you'd see a Quarian outside the suit is in the showers and we haven't been there. Finally, it's psychological. Quarians spend their entire lives in their suits, they feel safe in there.

 

[TPiddy]

They do seem to have several plot conveniences, like 'All the Krogan women are at home breeding'...

Salarians on the other hand, could be one of those more rapidly evolving species. The flu evolves every year because it only lives for months at a time. Same with insects. Humans take thousands upon thousands of years to evolve. If Salarian life expectancy was shorter this could partially explain why they're more advanced.

 

[harv3034]

1. As has been stated, the Asari live a long time naturaly. As for the Salarians, I think I heard somewhere that their lives are so short because their metabolism or what ever is much faster then most other races, evectivly burning them out in less time (like how your car burns more fule at 120 then at 60).
2. For this you kind of have to remember a few things:
-a- ME2 is the second in a trilogy, so we may see the Raloi in the next one.
-b- Me2 is a HUGE game. Even the main story sends you to multiple planets in multiple star systems and incapulates the stories of (counting DLC) about a dozen supporting characters. Such massive games take Massive amounts of time, money, and man hours(all of which are limited) so it's possible Bioware just ran out of one or more.
-c- Most of the stuff that goes into a game like this has to be approved (or at least looked at) by one of the heads. It's possible that the Raloi didn't get the right or enough approval to warrent the development of a new species model and story line.
-d- They ar putting out LOTS of DLC so the Raloi my show up later.
--And yes, it possible that Bioware will pull the pressure suit thing again. But seeing all the care and work they put into their games, I doubt Bioware would just recycle a feature that is key to the characterization of another speices (actually 2 races use the suits, so there is almost no chance of another one poping up). They will probably give them a backstory and a problem for Sheperd to solve and maybe a moral choice. Maybe one of the other races is oppressing them (maybe cutting off their wings?) and using them as cheap labor, but there is a group that have evaded capture fighting back for the freedom of their people. Sheperd will arrive on the planet after recieving a distress call from the opressers (but he dosent know they are opressers yet). While exploring the planet he/she meets the freedom fighters and learns the truth and is ofered a reward for helping liberate the captives. He/She then returns to confront the leader of the opressers who offers a far greater reward for helping them to defeat the rebles (MORAL CHOICE). having made his/her desision Sheperd and crew destroy the side who's offer they didn't take, collect the reward (maybe earn a new crew member?) and fly off.--
3. This is a wierd one. You would think that they would be protected from infection on their sealed ships (after all living in the Flotilla for so long is what made them need the suits). The main parts of the suits probably function as cloths (all resourses go to maintaining the ships) so that I can understand, but the masks...
Maybe it's considered a formality for the importance of the moment, like wearing dress cloths to a job interview or a formal dinner.
Or it could be that, because the ships they live on are so old, there is no guarantee that the systems that keep the environment clean aren't going to fail at any moment; it could just be a precausion.
--Or maybe Bioware had an uncharacteristi moment of lazyness.--
4. I hope so, but it all kind of depends on the structure of each race's society.
Krogan- Not going to happen, EVER
Salarian- Possibly, but with them having such short lives there's no quarantee
Turian- Again possible. Their culture is based strongly on the principle of honor and most such cultures are less likely to have women serving in military/leadership roles. (But after that story Garrus told about "reach" and "flexability"...)
The Volus have those suits. The Elcor probably all look the same.
But even if we do see them, there's a high probability that they will be pretty much the same but with a slightly tweeked apperance and tits slapped on.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

3. you can never have a 100% all the time sterile environment, also Shepard boarded the ship and think off how much they would be at risk of 1 person with millions of germs on them.

Given the suits being worn by the team are capable of protecting the crew from space (which is the most hostile known environment for any known form of life), it is safe to assume that they are a sealed system. This means one would simply need to sterilize the outside of the suit and the cleanliness of the ship would be preserved.

This isn't even new or exciting technology. How do you think the American CDC manages to work with the most deadly diseases known to man without the occasional outbreak of Smallpox and Ebola?

 

[DVS Storm]

As for number four, don't quote me on this, but I think the Salarian council member is female. I think. I don't remember where I read this, so don't quote me on that. Then again, there're some Salarians I've shot at that sound remarkably...girly. Particularly ones in Eclipse. Are they found anyplace else, for that matter?

I have actually read that from somewhere too. I completely forgot about it. And yeah they seem pretty girly.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Ok, so I have 4 major questions about Mass Effect 2 that alot of others probably want answered aswell, so without further ado:
1. How old do certain species live?
They say that for humans their live expectancy skyrocketed to 160 when they joined the Citadel, the Asari live for 1000 years but that's common knowledge and I read somewhere that Salarian live expectacy is around 40 and I call bullshit on that, if the Asari can live for a thousand years and the salarians are supposedly the most technologically advanced, why haven't they inventeed some sort of medicine to extend your life?

Salarian biology simply doesn't allow them to live that long. Who knows, maybe 40 IS a huge jump for the species. The Asari live for a thousand years because they always have. From what we can tell, their lifespan has remained relatively unchanged since they first joined galactic civilization.

2. The Raloi.
If you kept up with the Cerberus news you would know that there is a new species around called the Raloi, they are Avian and when they made 1st contact they only just launched their version of Sputnik, so are we going to actually SEE these aliens or is Bioware gonna pull the old bullshit of putting them in pressure suits?

Well, that would really depend on the species biology, wouldn't it? As an Avian species, I assume they share features in common with Earth birds, namely hollow bones. If this is true, they are probably used to a MUCH lighter gravity world than the galaxy standard, and stepping onto a higher gravity one might kill them (would be hell if they tried to walk on Tuchanka, for example). So a pressure suit, or at least some kind of support (maybe a mini anti-grav bubble generated by a portable mass effect engine?) would be necessary to keep them comfortable.

That said, if they do show up it likely won't be in any large capacity. Bioware seems to have settled on the "important" species (Asari, Salarian, Krogan, Human, Turian, Batarian), and everything else is probably just going to be restricted to cameo and NPC.

3. How come we didn't see quarians out of their suits on the flotilla?
pretty self explanitory, I mean the Flotilla was designed to be one of the most sterile environments suitable for quarians, and if you talk to an Asari Patriarch one of them says ' I remember when Quarians took off their suits regualrly' so why can't we ask her to describe them?

Quarian immune systems have degraded so far that even in the relatively sterile environment of their ships they still risk getting sick. And any sort of illness for a Quarian is potentially fatal, so they just don't risk it. Also, Quarians spend their entire lives in those suits, and consider them to be a second skin of sorts. Tali even says that one of the most intimate gestures among their people is linking two suits together and syncing their environments, which doesn't even involve any sort of physical touching.

As for why the Asari bartender never mentions what they look like, why should she? I get the feeling that Quarian biology and appearance is not a huge mystery in the Mass Effect world. Its not like its hard to find a Quarian corpse to do an autopsy, and I'm sure at some point someone took a picture of one for a medical journal or something. Just because they player doesn't know what they look like doesn't mean that Shepard, or anyone else in the ME universe, doesn't. Hell, maybe Tali is perfectly visible behind her visor, and we just never get to see it at the right angle.

4. Will we get to see female versions of other species?
the only I can currently think of that we've seen different genders of are humans(obviously) and Quarians(check, the females have slimmer waists), the Asari don't count as they(and from what I've heard, Hanar)are mono-gendered.

We've seen a female Elchor, she had a slightly higher pitched voice but otherwise looked like a male one (she makes an appearance in the "All Elchor Hamlet" commercial, doing a line by Ophelia.) As for the others, we haven't seen them yet because Bioware didn't feel like making different character models at first, and by ME2 we haven't really had a good reason to meet them.

If you want a canon reason....Female Krogan are rare and are kept in camps by the various tribes for protection. However, Shepard did get to see one in Mordin's loyalty mission (she was dead on an operating table, covered by a sheet). Female Salarians are important for reproduction and typically hold an important status in Salarian culture, usually staying on home planets to have government or other important jobs. We likely won't see one till we go to a Salarian planet, or deal with their actual government. Female Turians...not really any good reason we haven't seen one yet. I guess they just felt it wasn't necessary.

 

[Abize]

I am pretty sure I remember reading something saying that most Krogans can live past 2000 years, but don't because of their own violent nature.

I don't think Solarians sleep.(could be wrong on that) They also finish what we call college at age 12.

Quarians are rightfully the biggest germaphobes in the universe. Even if you were in a suit, and they weren't, a simple crack in yours could turn into an epidemic on any ship.

I remember reading they only required 4 or less hours of sleep in ME1, might have been a conversation with somebody during the krogan breeding lab commando raid (this is from memory of a game i finished within a 2 weeks of release and havnt touched since so i may be wrong)

 

[War Pony]

As for number four, don't quote me on this, but I think the Salarian council member is female. I think. I don't remember where I read this, so don't quote me on that. Then again, there're some Salarians I've shot at that sound remarkably...girly. Particularly ones in Eclipse. Are they found anyplace else, for that matter?

I have actually read that from somewhere too. I completely forgot about it. And yeah they seem pretty girly.

Girlier than some asari I've shot at, ohoho.