Yeah i dunno why they would come out and say this after pulling the storefront shift. They should have just left it on both stores. The only thing i can think of is that Epic gave them a fistfull of money ahead of time, which they must really need now, to do this.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:The developer is now threatening to not put the next Metro game on PC if it doesn't perform well. They sure like their grave deep.
If it doesn't preform well hardly anybody will care. And the devs most likely won't even be around to make another one.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:The developer is now threatening to not put the next Metro game on PC if it doesn't perform well. They sure like their grave deep.
Well the game will still sell pretty well on consoles, I imagine. They're saying if the game doesn't perform well on PC, they will put the next Metro game on consoles only.Adam Jensen said:If it doesn't preform well hardly anybody will care. And the devs most likely won't even be around to make another one.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:The developer is now threatening to not put the next Metro game on PC if it doesn't perform well. They sure like their grave deep.
They give away free games every couple weeks and its a pretty decent UI. Fast, looks nice on mobile and PC.Wintermute said:I didn't even know Epic had a store.
As one of the core fans of the Metro-series, they've lost me. Now, granted, I've been wobbling in my hype for Exodus ever since it was announced, so moving to the Epic store was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't necessarily think they are wrong, it is their business and they can take it wherever they like. However, we should at least acknowledge that it is a move that inconveniences fans who wants to play the game and as such is mildly anti-consumer, in favor of taking a fat wad of cash and being a pawn in the digital storefront war.Dreiko said:I'm very sympathetic to their core argument that if you're a fan you ought to go through the trouble of installing a new client just for the game. Their approach may not be the most diplomatic but I do think they're right and if it was a game I actually wanted to play merely installing a client wouldn't stop me like how having to import games from Japan hasn't.
their wont be a next metro game. book is finished. this is last game. artyom and his rangers are all leaving metro once for all.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:Well the game will still sell pretty well on consoles, I imagine. They're saying if the game doesn't perform well on PC, they will put the next Metro game on consoles only.Adam Jensen said:If it doesn't preform well hardly anybody will care. And the devs most likely won't even be around to make another one.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:The developer is now threatening to not put the next Metro game on PC if it doesn't perform well. They sure like their grave deep.
its just one man view. not entire development team.?The recent decision to move Metro Exodus from Steam to the Epic Game Store was made by Koch Media / Deep Silver alone.
The recent comments made by a member of the 4A Games development team do not reflect Deep Silver?s or 4A Games? view on the future of the franchise. They do reflect the hurt and disappointment of a passionate individual who has seen what was previously nothing but positive goodwill towards his work turn to controversy due to a business decision he had no control over. We respectfully ask that any and all valid feedback over this decision is directed at Koch Media / Deep Silver, and not the developers at 4A Games.
The future release strategy of the Metro series lies with Koch Media / Deep Silver. Our decision to partner with Epic Games was based on the goal of investing in the future of the series and our development partner at 4A Games. We have every intention of continuing this franchise, and a PC version will always be at the heart of our plans.?
The way I'd think about it is that with that extra money they will get by not putting the game on steam they will need to sell fewer copies of the game to meet their goals and ensure the continuation of the series. If it was a series I cared for, such a situation would certainly not be an inconvenience since the reason I buy games I care for new and not on sale at a discount is out of a desire to support the developers. Being able to support the developer by merely playing the game on another client sounds like a bargain to me.Gethsemani said:As one of the core fans of the Metro-series, they've lost me. Now, granted, I've been wobbling in my hype for Exodus ever since it was announced, so moving to the Epic store was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't necessarily think they are wrong, it is their business and they can take it wherever they like. However, we should at least acknowledge that it is a move that inconveniences fans who wants to play the game and as such is mildly anti-consumer, in favor of taking a fat wad of cash and being a pawn in the digital storefront war.Dreiko said:I'm very sympathetic to their core argument that if you're a fan you ought to go through the trouble of installing a new client just for the game. Their approach may not be the most diplomatic but I do think they're right and if it was a game I actually wanted to play merely installing a client wouldn't stop me like how having to import games from Japan hasn't.
But then, I'm not losing sleep over this. If anything, my economy (and family life) is better off now that I don't have to fit in six game releases in February and March alone.
I'd be prepared to download the launcher if they could manage to secure it from data breaches, allowed me to pay in my own currency, had a clear refund policy, had an offline mode, had reviews, forums, and mod support functionality. Basically, once the Epic Store can actually compete with Steam on features and support, I'll be prepared to use it, but right now all Epic is doing is holding games to ransom and inconveniencing consumers.Dreiko said:I'm very sympathetic to their core argument that if you're a fan you ought to go through the trouble of installing a new client just for the game. Their approach may not be the most diplomatic but I do think they're right and if it was a game I actually wanted to play merely installing a client wouldn't stop me like how having to import games from Japan hasn't.
They do kinda lose the plot a bit when it comes to basically soft blackmail about not making any more pc versions down the line though.
Right I get all that, outside of the data breach thing (is that really an issue? sounds a pretty terrible client if so) those other things don't even come close to comparing to the continuation of a loved series. It's not that they're not valid concerns as much as them being comparatively insignificant to knowing you'll get more of a game you love. I mean, what point is there to having the mod and review infrastructure there but no game to play on it lol.Bilious Green said:I'd be prepared to download the launcher if they could manage to secure it from data breaches, allowed me to pay in my own currency, had a clear refund policy, had an offline mode, had reviews, forums, and mod support functionality. Basically, once the Epic Store can actually compete with Steam on features and support, I'll be prepared to use it, but right now all Epic is doing is holding games to ransom and inconveniencing consumers.Dreiko said:I'm very sympathetic to their core argument that if you're a fan you ought to go through the trouble of installing a new client just for the game. Their approach may not be the most diplomatic but I do think they're right and if it was a game I actually wanted to play merely installing a client wouldn't stop me like how having to import games from Japan hasn't.
They do kinda lose the plot a bit when it comes to basically soft blackmail about not making any more pc versions down the line though.
If that's how people feel about it, then that's fine and obviously switching your store and launcher shouldn't be a big deal. But in regards to Metro I'm too capitalistic. I like the developers previous work, but that's not enough to get me to drop 60 bucks for their new game when it hasn't enticed me and it means that making the game exclusive to a digital store I don't use just makes me less inclined to get the game. I'm a core fan in so far that I love the Metro-series, but it doesn't mean I will just continue buying the games if they seem to be losing the qualities I love or the developers make me go through additional hoops just to play it.Dreiko said:The way I'd think about it is that with that extra money they will get by not putting the game on steam they will need to sell fewer copies of the game to meet their goals and ensure the continuation of the series. If it was a series I cared for, such a situation would certainly not be an inconvenience since the reason I buy games I care for new and not on sale at a discount is out of a desire to support the developers. Being able to support the developer by merely playing the game on another client sounds like a bargain to me.
They do to me, and I guess to a lot of other people too. If the publisher and the developer want to make their product exclusive to an inferior platform, they should expect to lose sales over it. I've put my foot down over anti-consumer practices before, and I probably will again. As much as I love the Metro series (read all the books as well as played the games) I'm also patient, so I can wait for a Steam sale to get it cheap some time in 2020. All they have achieved is to lose a day one sale and ensure that I will never buy anything from the Epic store.Dreiko said:Right I get all that, outside of the data breach thing (is that really an issue? sounds a pretty terrible client if so) those other things don't even come close to comparing to the continuation of a loved series. It's not that they're not valid concerns as much as them being comparatively insignificant to knowing you'll get more of a game you love. I mean, what point is there to having the mod and review infrastructure there but no game to play on it lol.Bilious Green said:I'd be prepared to download the launcher if they could manage to secure it from data breaches, allowed me to pay in my own currency, had a clear refund policy, had an offline mode, had reviews, forums, and mod support functionality. Basically, once the Epic Store can actually compete with Steam on features and support, I'll be prepared to use it, but right now all Epic is doing is holding games to ransom and inconveniencing consumers.Dreiko said:I'm very sympathetic to their core argument that if you're a fan you ought to go through the trouble of installing a new client just for the game. Their approach may not be the most diplomatic but I do think they're right and if it was a game I actually wanted to play merely installing a client wouldn't stop me like how having to import games from Japan hasn't.
They do kinda lose the plot a bit when it comes to basically soft blackmail about not making any more pc versions down the line though.