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While discussing Superman I realized that he is a Gary Stu. He has almost no weaknesses, just about every superpower, a great personality, and everyone loves him (basically all of the things that make a Gary Stu).

Does anyone have any other famous examples?

EDIT: a Gary/Mary Stu is a character that has almost no flaws and it is obviously the author's favorite character.
 

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You might want to add a link [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue] to TvTropes so people actually know what you're talking about.
 

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BJ Blaskcowitz? (If thats how you spell it) Only the Nazis dont like him really and who wants their opinion? Joking.

Batman is quite a "Gary Stu". He just about beats everything easily. Only weakness really is the death of his parents.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ultimate Mary Sue = Bella from Twilight.
I was just thinking the same thing. You can add Edward as a Gary Stu. Meh. I still liked the books.
 

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Ibram Gaunt, Colm Corbec and pretty much the entire Tanith First and only (Gaunt's Ghosts), with the exception of Rawne (who is a psycho), Larkin (who's mad), Feygor (who's generally just unlikeable), and Milo (who is filthy psyker-spawn, and unnerving). *

Everyone else, however, is a cardboard cutout, or a complete and utter asshat, despite this traditionally being the role of Commissars in the 41st Millennium (Gaunt only shoots 2 people in the first three books, and all of these are officers. Wha?).


*Let me explain this. The First and Only are, in the fluff, a brand new regiment mustered from a world with about as much military tradition as Switzerland. Abnett explains how they make excellent scouts, by the fact Tanith is a forest world where the trees move. What he fails to explain is how the Ghosts are somehow experts at moving stealthily through swamps, cities, warzones, trench systems, are all crack shots who would put a Cadian to shame, and masters of knife fighting. Yes, he writes a bloody good book, but he in essence creates a super-regiment out of what should be a bunch of terrified militiamen. Gaunt is something else. Most of them (Caffran, Gaunt, Corbec and a few others) are really, really great guys, and, for that reason, I found myself admiring Major Rawne for his crazy and style.
 

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Torque669 said:
BJ Blaskcowitz? (If thats how you spell it) Only the Nazis dont like him really and who wants their opinion? Joking.

Batman is quite a "Gary Stu". He just about beats everything easily. Only weakness really is the death of his parents.
Blaskowicz = Blaskovich. I dunno, he's apparently either Polish or Russian and I remember only the way I hear his name ;d Hate it when everyone calls him a "BJ"...

Still, not everyone likes him. People don't really trust him, you know. But yeah, I noticed that the dude could probably win the war alone.

Mezzamine said:
Me. I'm obviously the ultimate Gary Stu. Everyone just loves me.
Who the gosh darn hell are you, again?
 

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Kyp Durron (who i actually like as a character) from the JEDI ACADEMY series of books. He did everything Luke Skywalker could YOUNGER and BETTER.


I don't know if she qualifies, but Susan Delgado from the DARK TOWER series is the one example of a Stephen King character that i just simply cannot stand. He tried way way way too hard to shove her down our throats as being the most lovable woman ever.

Bella from "Twilight" is definitely the latest example. Good gosh she sucks. "I'm so plain looking, yet *sigh* all of the boys are fawning over me. Why are they fawning over me? I'm nothing special!"
 

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Rolling Thunder said:
Ibram Gaunt, Colm Corbec and pretty much the entire Tanith First and only (Gaunt's Ghosts), with the exception of Rawne (who is a psycho), Larkin (who's mad), Feygor (who's generally just unlikeable), and Milo (who is filthy psyker-spawn, and unnerving). *

Everyone else, however, is a cardboard cutout, or a complete and utter asshat, despite this traditionally being the role of Commissars in the 41st Millennium (Gaunt only shoots 2 people in the first three books, and all of these are officers. Wha?).


*Let me explain this. The First and Only are, in the fluff, a brand new regiment mustered from a world with about as much military tradition as Switzerland. Abnett explains how they make excellent scouts, by the fact Tanith is a forest world where the trees move. What he fails to explain is how the Ghosts are somehow experts at moving stealthily through swamps, cities, warzones, trench systems, are all crack shots who would put a Cadian to shame, and masters of knife fighting. Yes, he writes a bloody good book, but he in essence creates a super-regiment out of what should be a bunch of terrified militiamen. Gaunt is something else. Most of them (Caffran, Gaunt, Corbec and a few others) are really, really great guys, and, for that reason, I found myself admiring Major Rawne for his crazy and style.
Oh boy oh boy. You have single handedly dismantled my love for those books in a few short paragraphs.

Hark started out as a total bastard as he should, but then soon got reduced to cardboard cutout status. All the characters that you mentioned as being exceptions to the rule are, now I actually think about it, my preferred characters. Ah well, like you say, they're good books, and I suppose if he wrote novels about cannon fodder conscripts then no one would be too interested, and he'd have to have a new set of characters each book :S

And I suppose you could say that the ghosts have acquired lots of combat experience, thus enabling them to perform the feats you mention with more ease than you average Guard Reg.

Side note: Have you ever read the Last Chancers series? Now there is a motley group of bastards :D
 

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Rhonin [http://www.wowwiki.com/Rhonin], from the Warcraft mythos.
 

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Richard Rahl from the Sword of Truth series. He can basically do anything he sets his mind to. Hell, his magic works in such a way that he can do whatever he wants when he has the need. In other words his powers are 'get out of plot free cards'. All of the 'good' characters love him. Even evil or unintelligent characters turn to good because of his awesomeness aura. No force in the known universe can bring him down, due to earlier mentioned cards; Hellish inescapable torture? No problem, no deleterious effects. Inescapable magical time-dilated imprisonment? Couple of weeks before he gets out (tops). Population wrecking plague? Fixed. Thermonuclear barrage? He won't even get out of bed for that. Imperial Navy bringing down Exterminatus? He'll just deflect it with his sword.
 

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Gotta go with Batman on this one. He supposedly trained around the world for ten years, getting his body and mind into peak physical condition for his war on crime, and that's all well and good... But he's still nowhere near as powerful as, say, Superman. Heck, even Plastic Man is probably more use in a supervillain fight than Bats would be.

Given that, one has to wonder why Batman always wins. We all know he can take on a roomful of armed thugs, but Darkseid? Batman can go toe-to-toe with Darkseid now?
 

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Wadders said:
Rolling Thunder said:
Ibram Gaunt, Colm Corbec and pretty much the entire Tanith First and only (Gaunt's Ghosts), with the exception of Rawne (who is a psycho), Larkin (who's mad), Feygor (who's generally just unlikeable), and Milo (who is filthy psyker-spawn, and unnerving). *

Everyone else, however, is a cardboard cutout, or a complete and utter asshat, despite this traditionally being the role of Commissars in the 41st Millennium (Gaunt only shoots 2 people in the first three books, and all of these are officers. Wha?).


*Let me explain this. The First and Only are, in the fluff, a brand new regiment mustered from a world with about as much military tradition as Switzerland. Abnett explains how they make excellent scouts, by the fact Tanith is a forest world where the trees move. What he fails to explain is how the Ghosts are somehow experts at moving stealthily through swamps, cities, warzones, trench systems, are all crack shots who would put a Cadian to shame, and masters of knife fighting. Yes, he writes a bloody good book, but he in essence creates a super-regiment out of what should be a bunch of terrified militiamen. Gaunt is something else. Most of them (Caffran, Gaunt, Corbec and a few others) are really, really great guys, and, for that reason, I found myself admiring Major Rawne for his crazy and style.
Oh boy oh boy. You have single handedly dismantled my love for those books in a few short paragraphs.

Hark started out as a total bastard as he should, but then soon got reduced to cardboard cutout status. All the characters that you mentioned as being exceptions to the rule are, now I actually think about it, my preferred characters. Ah well, like you say, they're good books, and I suppose if he wrote novels about cannon fodder conscripts then no one would be too interested, and he'd have to have a new set of characters each book :S

And I suppose you could say that the ghosts have acquired lots of combat experience, thus enabling them to perform the feats you mention with more ease than you average Guard Reg.

Side note: Have you ever read the Last Chancers series? Now there is a motley group of bastards :D
1. Actually, I've just finished 'The Founding' in between posting that, and your reply. But no, I've not read the Last Chancers series, though I intend to, after I finish 'The Saint'. I think that it seems to be a fundamental flaw of Dan Abnett's writing style that he, in creating such destructive and awesome environments, tends to populate them with characters who are equal to the inhuman fury being unleashed. And that's the problem. His characters often wind up being inhuman.

2. My point was that, really, they were awesome from the very start of the books. They seem to have been carved of this essence of purest black awesomeness that makes them far superior to everyone not wearing power armour and having no testicles. And even then, I wouldn't have picked up on it much if they hadn't been such a universally likeable collection of people.

3. Still, the books are awesome. However, in my opinion Eisenhorn is Abnett;s best work. Ravenor isn't that great, though.