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Things tend to get better the more bad imitators or sequels there are. People didn't like the Star Wars prequels until the sequels came out, people have complaints about the LotR films until the Hobbit films came out, then complaints about that until RoP. Bad 80's action movies aren't so bad now there's so many bad modern ones, etc.
 

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Things tend to get better the more bad imitators or sequels there are. People didn't like the Star Wars prequels until the sequels came out, people have complaints about the LotR films until the Hobbit films came out, then complaints about that until RoP. Bad 80's action movies aren't so bad now there's so many bad modern ones, etc.
That's nothing new nor a hot take. It's called vindicated by history or appreciating what was there to begin with. A lot of the action I liked watching from the 80s and 90s I never even call bad in the first place. They've aged far better than a lot of those action films that came out during the mid 2000s to mid 2010s, where most were all trying to copy the Bourne Supremacy. With all those quick cuts and shaky cam nonsense. Most people don't even want to look at again. I'm glad it's not an unpopular opinion.
 

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It's time. Time to defend a movie nobody liked starring actors nobody liked about topics people allegedly don't like (even though decades of democratic election results kinda implies the total opposite?). Theoretically, no-one cares or remembers enough by now and will leave me the fuck alone cos "the discourse" back then was appealing as a pool of pissed off piranhas. Hopefully everyone's too depressed and dissociated now to come at me for something I don't have the energy to be dragged into a back n forth with.

*downs morphine n whiskey cocktail*

So, Don't Look Up had one consistent criticism I never quite vibed with. From ppl I generally respect also, that it's not gonna convince anyone that ain't already somewhat in the sphere of, well, believing climate change is real? If we're going by the commonly accepted metaphor anyway. And for most other subjects I would completely agree a different approach would've improved it.

However, by this point, by the time it released, somewhere between a trump presidency and the growing popularity of qanon as it slowly seeped into the mainstream conservative political parties across the world...the topic of climate change scientists regularly warned us since 70's - through 80's - 90's - activists warned - the 00's - journalists/columnists/media figures and some sidelined politicians warned - the 10''s - an emotional plea to the world by a teenage girl warned but was treated with sniveling contempt and creepy sexualised memes by politically motived trolls to demean n diminish any possible credit they could, approaching the 20's - the age conspiracy started to take hold - it became clear no-one was listening who'd be able to do something about it at all, it didn't matter who the message was coming from, the money and power was just too good!

So, seriously, actually think: who the fuck was still on the fence by that point, who could've been swayed to admit climate change is a real threat?

It wasn't trying to win anyone over, there wasn't anyone left. It was expressing an existential frustrated scream into an all consuming pitch black dead void like Drew Barrymore's scene in Donnie Darko;

Which I thought was made obvious by the whole, like, you know, plot and ending emphasising utter helplessness, as they slept stumbled into their own extinction. But evidently at the time others didn't quite see it. Perhaps they still had hope?
 
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It's time. Time to defend a movie nobody liked starring actors nobody liked about topics people allegedly don't like (even though decades of democratic election results kinda implies the total opposite?). Theoretically, no-one cares or remembers enough by now and will leave me the fuck alone cos "the discourse" back then was appealing as a pool of pissed off piranhas. Hopefully everyone's too depressed and dissociated now to come at me for something I don't have the energy to be dragged into a back n forth with.

*downs morphine n whiskey cocktail*

So, Don't Look Up had one consistent criticism I never quite vibed with. From ppl I generally respect also, that it's not gonna convince anyone that ain't already somewhat in the sphere of, well, believing climate change is real? If we're going by the commonly accepted metaphor anyway. And for most other subjects I would completely agree a different approach would've improved it.

However, by this point, by the time it released, somewhere between a trump presidency and the growing popularity of qanon as it slowly seeped into the mainstream conservative political parties across the world...the topic of climate change scientists regularly warned us since 70's - through 80's - 90's - activists warned - the 00's - journalists/columnists/media figures and some sidelined politicians warned - the 10''s - an emotional plea to the world by a teenage girl warned but was treated with sniveling contempt and creepy sexualised memes by politically motived trolls to demean n diminish any possible credit they could, approaching the 20's - the age conspiracy started to take hold - it became clear no-one was listening who'd be able to do something about it at all, it didn't matter who the message was coming from, the money and power was just too good!

So, seriously, actually think: who the fuck was still on the fence by that point, who could've been swayed to admit climate change is a real threat?

It wasn't trying to win anyone over, there wasn't anyone left. It was expressing an existential frustrated scream into an all consuming pitch black dead void like Drew Barrymore's scene in Donnie Darko;

Which I thought was made obvious by the whole, like, you know, plot and ending emphasising utter helplessness, as they slept stumbled into their own extinction. But evidently at the time others didn't quite see it. Perhaps they still had hope?
-Don't Look Up
It was an OK satire, it's not near the level of good South Park satire. I kinda felt most of it was really easy shots that really didn't have much weight to them. And this movie is way too fucking long. There were a few good lines in the movie like the following line from Jonah Hills character:

There's three types of American people. There are you, the working class. Us, the cool rich, and then them. *crowd boos* I'm sorry, but we need them. We need them because you build us up to fight them.

Now that's a pretty insightful line. I wish the movie had a lot more of that.

Also, why the fuck did that general change them for free snacks?! 😂
 

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Ok, so I got round to getting all the seasons of Supergirl on DVD, having 1 and 2 already and having seen 3 and 4. Rewatching season 3, ep 16 has a bit where they have to save the directors of a health insurance company from a "villain" who wants to kill them for refusing to pay for people's insurance.

That has aged pretty badly.
 
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My probably lukewarm take is, of the two adaptations I’ve seen of Murder on the Orient Express - David Suchet’s and Kenneth Branagh’s - I have to say I much prefer Branagh’s.

I know, it’s practically heresy especially since Suchet is the definitive Poirot - an assessment I agree with - but the sheer emotion we get out of everyone in the movie edged it out. That and the music, especially the piece at the end called “Justice”, just plays me like a fiddle. It’s right up there with the legendary ending music pieces for Heat and Gladiator.
 
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Ranking the Spider-Man Films and Venom films while I am at it:
  1. Across the Spider-Verse
  2. Into The Spider-Verse
  3. Spider-Man 1
  4. Spider-Man 2 - 2.1 Extended Cut is the inferior version.
  5. No Way Home
  6. Venom: Let There Be Carnage
  7. Venom: The Last Dance
  8. Venom (2018)
  9. The Amazing Spider-Man
  10. Far Away From Home
  11. Homecoming
  12. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
  13. Spider-Man 3
 

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It's nice pointing out what certain critics or naysayers don't get about Havoc (2025). The movie is doing great anyway, so their opinions don't amount to much.

 

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It's nice pointing out what certain critics or naysayers don't get about Havoc (2025). The movie is doing great anyway, so their opinions don't amount to much.

Huh? Literally no one cares about Havoc and there's nothing to "get" about it. And it's a bad movie, the whole opening chase scene was fake and it was really obvious.
 

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I don't care about Havoc.
Correction. You don't care.

You're opinionated opinions are shit as usual, and the movie is doing well. It's almost as good as the Raid movies. Deal with it, and suck on that copium you love doing 24/7. High ratings or not, Gareth Evans runs circles around a majority of modern action directors.
 
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Correction. You don't care.

You're opinionated opinions are shit as usual, and the movie is doing well. It's almost as good as the Raid movies. Deal with it, and suck on that copium you love doing 24/7. High ratings or not, Gareth Evans runs circles around a majority of modern action directors.
Yes, saying the opening car chase scene is fake is not an objective fact, but indeed an opinionated opinion.

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Havoc isn't even in the same league as The Raid and will not be remembered by anyone in like 2 years while The Raid will remain an action classic forever.
 

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Yes, saying the opening car chase scene is fake is not an objective fact, but indeed an opinionated opinion.

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Havoc isn't even in the same league as The Raid and will not be remembered by anyone in like 2 years while The Raid will remain an action classic forever.
I actually don’t see or hear the Raid mentioned much any more. Which is a shame because it’s a fucking great action movie.
 

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Despite the streaming service's problems, I still enjoy Netflix overall. It tends to have better original, usually one off, R-Rated action movies (most not based off of any IP), and tends to have great original animated movies and TV shows. All of these streaming platforms have their own sins and problems though. I really only care about Netflix, Prime, and sometimes Disney+. HBO Max pretty much shot itself in the foot, and I am just going to use my brother's account for when Peacemaker Season 2 comes out.
 

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I actually don’t see or hear the Raid mentioned much any more. Which is a shame because it’s a fucking great action movie.
Among action aficionados, The Raid will be remembered forever like people who know Hong Kong action movies know Wing Chun is Michelle Yeoh's best solo kung fu movie. Or say Tony Jaa's Ong Bak.
 

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Adventure Time was better when it was episodic. I just don't think the series is as good past season 3 when things get more serious.
 
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Horror movies are best appreciated at home. Theaters allow for the big screen and massive speakers to force the impact of scares down your throat, but inexorably, the lights come up, and you're reminded that the scares were shared with a couple hundred people and the idea fades while you all shuffle out recounting moments that scared you and laughing about them. At home, in your haven and sanctuary, you can turn the lights on, but you're alone, and the fear has no company to dismiss it with.
 
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Does anybody else wish they could see the original cut of the Sonic movie with the horrible nightmare Sonic? I haven't seen the Sonic movie, but I would have if he'd looked like a monster instead of like Sonic.
 

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Does anybody else wish they could see the original cut of the Sonic movie with the horrible nightmare Sonic? I haven't seen the Sonic movie, but I would have if he'd looked like a monster instead of like Sonic.
That's really not a hot take, as there are many of those who want to see it out of morbid, curiosity or to be horrified and entertained.

I personally don't need it nor wants to see that model ever again.