Nintendo Switch becomes the fastest selling videogame console in US History

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Yoshi178

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The escapist and the rest of the internet told me this thing was going to be a massive flop and become a Wii U 2.0

Why would you all lie to me?
 

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Who said it was going to flop (and no, just one or two comments don't count)? At worst the sentiment was that if it was going to flop, Nintendo might not recover from it, as that would make two in a row.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Casual Shinji said:
Who said it was going to flop (and no, just one or two comments don't count)?
it's called a rhetorical question.
Really? Because knowing you this is another 'I told you so' thread, calling out anyone that dared not believe in the Lord and Savior Nintendo.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Yoshi178 said:
Casual Shinji said:
Who said it was going to flop (and no, just one or two comments don't count)?
it's called a rhetorical question.
Really? Because knowing you this is another 'I told you so' thread, calling out anyone that dared not believe in the Lord and Savior Nintendo.
you don't know anything about me other than the fact that i like Nintendo games.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
you don't know anything about me other than the fact that i like Nintendo games.
Well yes... that's all I'm commenting on, isn't it?
 

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That's nice. Nintendo made a gamble and it's paying off. Good for them. They'll want to make sure to sustain that success, but without knowing their plans, I'll refrain from any conjecture about that.

I'm still holding off on buying a Switch though. It hasn't met my minimum "games I want" quota for buying a new system yet.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Yoshi178 said:
you don't know anything about me other than the fact that i like Nintendo games.
Well yes... that's all I'm commenting on, isn't it?
no. you asked me which escapist users said it was going to flop and that having only one or two quotes doesn't count.

why do i need to tell you which specific users said that the Switch would flop?

am i not allowed to comment openly about what the general reaction to the Switch was like a year ago without providing proof of exactly "who said what?" now am i?

there was shitloads of skepticism towards the Switch and how it would perform on the market not just before it came out, but even in the first several months of it being released where people would say stuff like "Switch selling 3 million in the first month isn't impressive at all. could easily just be a short lived fluke at this point in it's life. if it's continuing to do these type of numbers in a years time then maybe it could be considered a success".




to act like there was no skepticism towards the Switch at all back then is pretty naive.
 

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I'm actually hoping microsoft and sony take hints from this for the next generation.

1: Having the most power doesn't matter, unless you want to directly compete with PC's. A battle you'll always lose.
2: Actually innovate. Sure, Nintendo took a gamble, but it paid off and shows that people really like a portable console, even if it's less powerful.
3: Actually have good exclusive games that make people want to buy the console. (Zelda, Mario, Kirby, an upcoming Pokemon game, etc.)
4: Quit your always online "games as a service" bullshit. Gamers just want to buy their games and play them.

Sure, the switch isn't perfect. But it's the only console I was genuinely excited for this generation. (which of course means I bought one.)
 

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sanquin said:
I'm actually hoping microsoft and sony take hints from this for the next generation.

1: Having the most power doesn't matter, unless you want to directly compete with PC's. A battle you'll always lose.
2: Actually innovate. Sure, Nintendo took a gamble, but it paid off and shows that people really like a portable console, even if it's less powerful.
3: Actually have good exclusive games that make people want to buy the console. (Zelda, Mario, Kirby, an upcoming Pokemon game, etc.)
4: Quit your always online "games as a service" bullshit. Gamers just want to buy their games and play them.

Sure, the switch isn't perfect. But it's the only console I was genuinely excited for this generation. (which of course means I bought one.)
Per the above points:

1) It kind of matters in the sense that the Switch is underpowered compared to its contemporaries, and ipso facto, is the least desirable of the three consoles for third party games (which feeds into another point).

2) The Switch does have portability, I'll grant it that.

3) Every console has exclusives, that's not an argument in of itself, it's down to the quality of the exclusives, which is far more subjective. The Switch has some exclusives I'm interested in, but not nearly enough to justify buying it (yet). Per point 1, the Switch is the least ideal console for third parties.

4) That's a different issue. The success of multiplayer-only games shows that there's a market for them, and the Switch has games that follow the model anyway (e.g. ARMS).

At the end of the day, good for the Switch, but it doesn't change my preference for Nintendo's software over its hardware.
 

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That sound you just heard was thousand of sphincters tightening due to underestimating Nintendo (again!). It sure has made stuff like this so evergreen they could be mistaken for a tree:

https://twitter.com/tinycartridge/status/949068338340253696

Seriously, this is why it's been asinine to whine about or nitpick Nintendo for the past decade. The arguments don't work, they never worked, time to get new material. Now to see what they have in store for the coming year.
 

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Hawki said:
1) It kind of matters in the sense that the Switch is underpowered compared to its contemporaries, and ipso facto, is the least desirable of the three consoles for third party games (which feeds into another point).
people were saying that the Switch is too underpowered and would never get third party support 6 months ago and disagreed with me when i told them that if the Switch keeps selling well, then 3rd Support would follow.

what i said back then is already beginning to come true. Switch has begun to get games like 2016's DOOM and next year in 2018 it's been announced to be getting games like Wolfenstein II, Dragon Quest 11, Bayonetta 3 and the Mega Man and Street Fighter 30th anniversary collections are all coming to Switch.


sure games like Wolfenstein II aren't going to be as pretty on the Switch as they are on the PS4/Xbox One/PC, but DOOM itself already proves that decent ports can be made and optimised for the Switch. and like i said, as long as the Switch keeps selling, then the 3rd Party support would come too and only get better, and we're already seeing that with game announcements like the ones i just listed.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Who said it was going to flop (and no, just one or two comments don't count)? At worst the sentiment was that if it was going to flop, Nintendo might not recover from it, as that would make two in a row.
Oh comon. Don't do that. I dislike Yoshi as much ad the next guy but he's right ( i puked a little in my mouth). When the Switch was announced every second Escapist laughed at it and said it was going to flop. And the other half said they didn't care about nintendo.

Throw the poor guy a bone.
 

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Now the question remains whether they can keep this momentum up or not.
 

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Admittedlly, even for a sceptic as I am (if not vocal about it)... I am planing on getting a Switch this year.
NMH3, Pokemon, Bayonetta, Splatoon those make it all tempting. Specially Splatoon, tbh. I just hope the build quality has improved. That is one thing Ninty has been dropping the balls on badly imo.
 

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Fischgopf said:
It's fairly obvious that you have a strangely large emotional investment in the whole shebang
I'm passionate about Nintendo games. so shoot me.
 

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bluegate said:
Now the question remains whether they can keep this momentum up or not.
Probably; there are no signs of it petering out any time soon, especially if they keep the content going on. Considering that Nintendo can survive almost exclusively on 1st party content and with the new wave of 3rd party support, the Switch does not look to be having an off year anytime soon.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
Throw the poor guy a bone.
Hmmmm no, sorry. In regards to Nintendo, the guy's default setting is gloating, so on that topic I like to refrain from throwing one unless absolutely, positively necessary.
Lufia Erim said:
Oh comon. Don't do that. I dislike Yoshi as much ad the next guy but he's right ( i puked a little in my mouth). When the Switch was announced every second Escapist laughed at it and said it was going to flop. And the other half said they didn't care about nintendo.
I remember there being part indifference and part speculation on whether it was going to succeed, and what it needed to succeed (3rd party support etc). With maybe a few stating it was going to flop. But by no means where people laughing it off. As a matter of fact, once that first reveal trailer hit I remember the consensus to be rather positive. You compare that to the reveal of the Xbox One... That was hate, that was being laughed off.